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Offline JoK3R

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APPEAL
« on: February 15, 2020, 04:51:18 PM »
Nick used whilst ingame: jok_ER
Time and Date that you were banned: right at the moment
Suspected Reason (if any): evasion
IP Address: idk
PAC ID: idk
Admin that banned you (if known): morphine
Extra notes: take a look at this from my perspective as a player how it does count as a death evade if i didn't saw him coming at me and i wasn't even fighting him
https://youtu.be/6vR9odCsq34

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2020, 04:58:06 PM »
all this video shows is a player running at you and you reconnecting right when the player enters the pharmacy, with obvious signs of shooting from said player

I asked you in-game for anything you could have had in your defense but you decided to ignore me so that, too, complicated things


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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2020, 05:09:13 PM »
i didn't see u asking me anything my bad, but i think that anyone could disagree with you on ur opinion , he wasn't clearly in sight and he didn't even had a clear shot on me, and more to add that i wasn't even focusing and didn't saw him at all he was clearly out of reach to hit me but it's up to you to decide at the end anyway

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2020, 05:18:23 PM »
all this video shows is a player running at you and you reconnecting right when the player enters the pharmacy, with obvious signs of shooting from said player

I asked you in-game for anything you could have had in your defense but you decided to ignore me so that, too, complicated things



maybe consider watching the video again he didn't even get near the pharmacy he didn't even get to shoot

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 09:40:50 AM »
My understanding is that reconnecting when you're low on HP is death evade, regardless of whether you're being chased/attacked or not.



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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 09:54:23 AM »
do i have to wait for someone to come and kill me from no where which i didn't know he was coming at me plus some times i want to change the skin just only

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 12:31:40 PM »
My understanding is that reconnecting when you're low on HP is death evade, regardless of whether you're being chased/attacked or not.

not exactly

reconnecting is allowed in many cases, except when it conflicts with our existing death evading rules, one of them being the following:

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- Pausing the game and clicking the "Reconnect" button on the main menu while in combat is not allowed.

the evidence provided shows that you were:

  • low on HP - a prerequisite for death-evading
  • being followed by a player to the pharmacy - a prerequisite for death-evading
  • reconnected right as the player entered - assumed death-evading

so this is either:

  • a terrible coincidence, or
  • you're not telling us something




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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 01:13:37 PM »
My understanding is that reconnecting when you're low on HP is death evade, regardless of whether you're being chased/attacked or not.

not exactly

reconnecting is allowed in many cases, except when it conflicts with our existing death evading rules, one of them being the following:

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- Pausing the game and clicking the "Reconnect" button on the main menu while in combat is not allowed.

the evidence provided shows that you were:

  • low on HP - a prerequisite for death-evading
  • being followed by a player to the pharmacy - a prerequisite for death-evading
  • reconnected right as the player entered - assumed death-evading

so this is either:

  • a terrible coincidence, or
  • you're not telling us something



you can look at the video again if you please
i wasn't being followed by him at all
he didn't even get near the pharmacy when i reconnected and he didn't get a clear shot at me he just saw me far in the distance going in there how is that considered to be death evasion, some times i reconnect to choose another skin if its not worth healing

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 01:28:27 PM »
i never usually argue when i get banned lol you decide anyways

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2020, 01:27:17 PM »
is someone gonna reply or not ?

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2020, 04:18:13 PM »
is someone gonna reply or not ?
Have patience, morphine will get back to you once he's got the time.

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 10:57:06 AM »
i guess my appeal is denied then it's been 3 days

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Re: APPEAL
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2020, 11:50:36 AM »
well it's a closed case because there isn't much to discuss here

I've unbanned you a bit earlier than was initially planned in any case

we will also be looking over the specifics of reports regarding death evading