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Title: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on September 12, 2013, 07:58:30 PM
So yea watch the video on this website and let me know what u think.

www.phonebloks.com (http://www.phonebloks.com)

I for one think its a frickin genius idea :)
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on September 12, 2013, 08:20:35 PM
This will propably be destroyed to oblivion by the largest mobile device corporations, because they fear to loose their market and their economical growth to this, or this becomes the next iPhone and will be available at skyhigh prices, so whoever buys it does not endanger the sales of the industry by not needing to buy another one in two months. Also, the same goes for the blocks then.
Apart from that - it's an awesome idea and i want one right now.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: SKY on September 12, 2013, 08:49:43 PM
Looks cool i saw it to, hopefully its waterproof xD?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Simon on September 13, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
It's a designers wet dream with no consideration to engineering. You can't just have magic pins which drive all interfaces, a GPU connection requires a lot more bandwidth than a Wi-Fi connection. Properly engineered hardware takes advantage of distance to components and purposefully uses different bus sizes.

What about individual phone designs? Are we now destined to have shitty blocks for phones?

This seems to be the breadboard reimagined.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Hanney on September 13, 2013, 01:13:10 AM
What happens if I drop my phone in public? Would it shatter leaving me having to stand around picking up tiny little lego pieces hoping I haven't missed a part in a panic? o.O
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Fuse on September 13, 2013, 07:42:23 PM
Good idea but probably very hard to engineer it the way the video explains it.. I agree with what simon said, because i doubt a GPU is wired in the same way as a battery is for example. If companies could start repairing the stuff they sell for a reasonable price, then that would be a better idea.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on September 22, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
Good idea but probably very hard to engineer it the way the video explains it.. I agree with what simon said, because i doubt a GPU is wired in the same way as a battery is for example. If companies could start repairing the stuff they sell for a reasonable price, then that would be a better idea.

The fact that things can already be engineered on nano level. Gives me positive hope that they can accomplish this goal. I think its very much possible to do this. GPU's come in all shapes, wiring and sizes. All you pretty much need to do is put controllers in the base platform that can detect what is being placed in its socket. The building blocks for this kind of project already exist. Think about how traffic lights are being controlled (PLC look it up). Think about computers. We can switch things out to make it work again if it was broken. All these things are pretty much the concept for phonebloks.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on September 22, 2013, 03:19:04 PM
A mini computer-like phone where you can replace the CPU and other chips might be do-able but this block idea is just bullshit.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on September 22, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
... but this block idea is just bullshit.

What do you mean?

The concept of it being blocky? Or like the Camera as a block, battery as a block, speaker as a block etc etc ?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Lofty on September 22, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
not bad .. i'd buy it but those are the types of "ideas" you find online but you never see them come true simply because the phone companies want to make more money and if this happens less phones will be bought , even if you consider the sales of the individual items you will never get to the same amount of profit. So it'll be hard to see this come true even if most of the people want it to.  :'(
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on September 23, 2013, 12:20:24 PM
... but this block idea is just bullshit.

What do you mean?

The concept of it being blocky? Or like the Camera as a block, battery as a block, speaker as a block etc etc ?

The whole block concept is nonsense.
You need to put so much work and ressources into the blocks in order to make them compatible..

Todays mobile phones may be non-repair-able, non-upgrade-able, but they still have 1 giant advantage: they use as few ressources as somehow possible, simply because the manufacturers want to spend as few monies as possible. Also they are super effective because everything is perfectly balanced.

With the block design you put more ressources into the phones than required, just so you can easily replace them. And who is seriously in the need of constantly changing blocks? Thats just utter bullshit.

Another problem is that humanity can not predict the future. Sooner or later the base of this block phone will be out-dated. Which means you will still have to replace your entire phone. That is unavoidable, simply because there always is SOME kind of development. If that wasn't the case then we could already create a phone which will be up-to-date even in 10 years. But with the block phone they ignore that... the fucking base will not last forever.

BTW: resources in current phones do not vanish. You can recycle them..

This entire idea just lacks common sense. And the biggest problem is of course the bullshit with the pins. How on earth is the base supposed to know what part you have connected to which slots? If they really were to make it as compatible as described in the video you could easily build a short circuit/burn all your fucking blocks to ashes.

I just cannot believe how stupid people are. It's like a kid saying that it would be cool to have a car which can fly and swim and dive and travel to the fucking moon. Sience simply doesn't work like that -.-
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on October 31, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
So to all of you who didnt think it to be possbile....

Phonebloks - The next step (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaPf4ZIbDVM#)

They are actually releasing a dev kit this winter so other companies can start making prototype blocks.

Just an FYI
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2013, 06:14:37 PM
Well.. it might be possible but i stick to my opinion that a block phone will NEVER be able to mess with true "1-piece" phones. Not even nearly.

There are too many disadvantages in this concept..

Even if they manage to release such a phone it will be heavier, slower and more expensive than a "1-piece" phone. And as i said its the same problem as in desktop computers and their sockets. The base does NOT last forever. So basically you spend more cash on a heavier, slower phone just to enable you to replace broken parts until the phone is out-dated.

Btw my "smart" phone is now 3 years old and it looks brand new and works like a charm..

Just imagine a car. Just because you can replace every single part doesnt mean that you keep that fucking car until your life is over. And it also doesnt mean that a repair is always cheaper than a full replacement.
Its exactly the same with this useless phone concept.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on October 31, 2013, 07:49:54 PM
Just imagine a car. Just because you can replace every single part doesnt mean that you keep that fucking car until your life is over. And it also doesnt mean that a repair is always cheaper than a full replacement.
Its exactly the same with this useless phone concept.

With an old car i just might keep it :P

Specially something like an old 1965 1966 impala :D
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2013, 07:55:39 PM
Yea because cars can possibly be cool forever.


Phones cannot..
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on October 31, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Yea because cars can possibly be cool forever.


Phones cannot..
The Nokia 32-10 still is.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 01, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
Yea because cars can possibly be cool forever.


Phones cannot..

So.. You dont like the idea that you can simply upgrade your CPU, upgrade the screen, camera, internet thingy, sound. Honestly i would rather just upgrade the old one rather than go out on a bender and buy a fuckin new one for 500 euro or start a new contract that i will be stuck on for another 2 years and still pay 120 bucks for the phone. I rather pay 50 bucks for a new module than 500 for a new phone. But thats just me
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 01, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
No I do NOT like that idea because by the time the CPU is outdated, the rest of the phone will be outdated too.

You can of course keep replacing all the parts but by the time you have replaced all of them you could already have bought you a new 1-piece phone for less cash, manufactured with less ressources.......
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Devilboy665 on November 01, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
The Nokia 32-10 still is.
33-10 also.

This idea is great. Pointless today, but great. I remember having this SonyEricsson phone to which you could plug little lego camera in to take pictures. I don't think it will work as Google still didn't buy it off. So haha good joke.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 03, 2013, 09:59:42 AM
The Nokia 32-10 still is.
33-10 also.

This idea is great. Pointless today, but great. I remember having this SonyEricsson phone to which you could plug little lego camera in to take pictures. I don't think it will work as Google still didn't buy it off. So haha good joke.

Those are weapons not phones.... :P
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on November 04, 2013, 07:30:29 AM
manufactured with less ressources.......
Yes, because this CPU was produced using more ressources than for the whole phone! ::)
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 04, 2013, 05:11:10 PM
manufactured with less ressources.......
Yes, because this CPU was produced using more ressources than for the whole phone! ::)

I said by the time the CPU is outdated, the rest of the phone will be outdated too. Replace all the fucking replaceable parts = more ressources than just buying a new phone and recycling the old one.

You people do understand that all those thingys need an additional female and male plug and all sort of other shit to make them replaceable? The problem is that this is not Lego.. its hightech bullshit.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Fuse on November 04, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
Even if they manage to release such a phone it will be heavier, slower and more expensive than a "1-piece" phone. And as i said its the same problem as in desktop computers and their sockets. The base does NOT last forever. So basically you spend more cash on a heavier, slower phone
Are you saying desktops are worse than laptops?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 04, 2013, 10:29:05 PM
manufactured with less ressources.......
Yes, because this CPU was produced using more ressources than for the whole phone! ::)

I said by the time the CPU is outdated, the rest of the phone will be outdated too. Replace all the fucking replaceable parts = more ressources than just buying a new phone and recycling the old one.

You people do understand that all those thingys need an additional female and male plug and all sort of other shit to make them replaceable? The problem is that this is not Lego.. its hightech bullshit.

I dont think you understand it. You dont replace a good working HDD for a new one because the entire PC is outdated i know i dont. Same goes for lets say the speakers on the phone. I would not replace them if they still work. If the CPU is still good but the screen is bad or cracked or what ever i would replace it and not the entire phone.

Female and male plugs? How do you think they fuckin replace the broken parts in your phone when u send it their way. They are all connected to eachother by those same kind of plugs ur talking about. Nothing extra is being added m8.

Basically if your screen is cracked on a regular phone you are looking at 500 to 600 for a new phone which is infact more resources and more money. When replacing it with the blocks phone screen for perhaps 150 or less which is less resources than getting an entire new phone.

Also the whole idea behind this project. Is to actually reduce the fuckin waste phones generate these days. Replacing parts will immensely reduce the waste it provides. (heres a link to where the idea from the designer explains it: http://www.triplepundit.com/2013/09/phone-made-building-blocks-reduce-ewaste/ (http://www.triplepundit.com/2013/09/phone-made-building-blocks-reduce-ewaste/))

About the heavier part. I dont think itll be any heavier than todays smart phones maybe 20 to 30 grams more which is nothing to cry about honestly. Its not going to be like into the KGs. My phone is 146 grams (Xperia Z) I would seriously not care if it was going close to 200grams.

Also think about how much easier it would be to just replace a broken part within hours of noticing its broken. Instead of waiting 4 to 6 weeks to get an answer like oh yea your microphone is broken replacing it takes us another 3 weeks because of all our backlog. Fuck that shit im not paying for my phone contract when i dont have a phone. Ill replace it myself rather than spending 100 bucks to let them replace it. Its cheaper and itll be faster (alot).

You mentioned something about cars earlier in this thread. That a car doesnt last a lifetime. But when a part of your car is broken you dont buy a new car you simply replace the parts. Heres a list of all things you would rather replace parts on than buying a complete new one.

- Car
- Motorcycle
- PC
- House
- Server
- and probably a bunch more stuff i cant name of the top of my head now.

So yea why not add phone to it as well.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 04, 2013, 11:10:23 PM
Its a very complex topic.

I simply do not feel the need to replace broken parts on a mobile phone. I know how to handle hardware. Not once in my lifetime have I broken a mobile phone. My very first one is probably still working. Got it about 10 years ago. Batterie probably dead.. anyway: I dont use it anymore, because it is totally outdated. Upgrading the screen wouldn't help. Upgrading the CPU wouldn't help. It is required to entirely replace the phone. It will be requried to entirely replace the lego phone too after some time.

The only good, vaild pro aspect for lego phones is the broken part replacement. But as I have said I wouldnt have needed it even once in my life time.

One more point is the recycling of broken hardware. Tell me: What is more likely? That you keep your entire old 1-piece-phones somewhere or that you have a little box for tiny broken phone hardware pieces that you recycle every once in a while?

What will you do with your old screen if it is broken? What would you do if it was still working but you only wanted a higher resolution? Would anybody be willing to pay money for the basic screen? Would you bother to post it on ebay if it is worth 10€ max? You would just throw it away and it will end up in the dump not being recycled ever.

My life simply wouldnt benefit from a lego phone in any way.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on November 05, 2013, 06:31:59 AM
Replace all the parts = replace the phone (now don't get philosophical please).
If you don't have any fancy stuff installed i don't think you would look around a greater price or ressource usage than when buying a 1-piece phone.

What will you do with your old screen if it is broken? What would you do if it was still working but you only wanted a higher resolution? Would anybody be willing to pay money for the basic screen? Would you bother to post it on ebay if it is worth 10€ max? You would just throw it away and it will end up in the dump not being recycled ever.
There are already many recycling companies that accept old phones and phone parts, some of them even disassemble them and extract the ressources they were made of to send it to countries where people actually fight wars over the stuff our computer chips are made of. It's a question about in how far the customer is willing to take care of the environment. Of course there are some lazy motherfuckers, that don't care about environment, and buy new phones all over the place when the old one is actually still working just because their camera is not capable of making photos shitty enough for instagram. For me in personal, it's no big deal to recycle a phone, you can even pack it and send it to some of the companies. I guess they will add (or at least they should add) a service for recycling, like you could send the old parts back when you receive new ones).

If you don't care about environment, that's fine. Just keep buying and wasting normal phones. Free market economy.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 05, 2013, 10:34:13 AM
There are already many recycling companies that accept old phones and phone parts, some of them even disassemble them and extract the ressources they were made of to send it to countries where people actually fight wars over the stuff our computer chips are made of. It's a question about in how far the customer is willing to take care of the environment. Of course there are some lazy motherfuckers, that don't care about environment, and buy new phones all over the place when the old one is actually still working just because their camera is not capable of making photos shitty enough for instagram. For me in personal, it's no big deal to recycle a phone, you can even pack it and send it to some of the companies. I guess they will add (or at least they should add) a service for recycling, like you could send the old parts back when you receive new ones).

If you don't care about environment, that's fine. Just keep buying and wasting normal phones. Free market economy.

You seem to misunderstand me. I am talking about this tiny hardware pieces that you can replace on the Lego phone. For example the tiny CPU. Would you recycle it if it is broken? Would you re-sell it if it is still working but worth only 5-10€? I highly doubt that.

But on the contrary barely anybody throws an entire broken phone away. I don't do that either. I am talking about the tiny replaceable parts. It is more likely that you throw them away, thus the ultra economic lego phones become an even bigger waste of ressources than a 1-piece-phone.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 05, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
If the parts are still working i would probably put them in a box and save them up incase a part gets broken i would still have a backup. If i got multiple parts i would probably just sell them as a pack deal for perhaps 20 to 30 bucks depending on the modules.

I also still have my very first phone in a box laying around somewhere and any other phones i have had as well. I simply kept them incase of emergency backup. My first phone is pretty much 12 yrs old now and it still works. Thing is though the phone is no longer supported on the nowadays network for in and outgoing calls (outdated tech)

They have already confirmed it though that it will reduce waste. And parts will be recyclable.

I for one have a box that i use for old broken parts that every once in a while i bring to our local electronic shop that pretty much gives me a few bucks and they either repair it or send it to some kind of foundation or what ever. And i would probably do exactly the same for the phone modules if there isnt a better alternative by then.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 05, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
They have already confirmed it though that it will reduce waste. And parts will be recyclable.

Of course they comfirm that. They want to make money after all.

And of course they are also recycleable. But the question is if people bother to recycle/re-sell those tiny parts or just throw them away.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Devilboy665 on November 05, 2013, 11:28:31 PM
Wow. Such a smart people we have here. How come none of you made something by now?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 06, 2013, 09:52:54 PM
They have already confirmed it though that it will reduce waste. And parts will be recyclable.

Of course they comfirm that. They want to make money after all.

And of course they are also recycleable. But the question is if people bother to recycle/re-sell those tiny parts or just throw them away.

Most waste dump companies recycle now anyway.

Wow. Such a smart people we have here. How come none of you made something by now?

And what should we be making? Perhaps jokes about how bad your english is?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Devilboy665 on November 08, 2013, 05:51:53 PM
Wow. Such a smart people we have here. How come none of you made something by now?

And what should we be making? Perhaps jokes about how bad your english is?
Really? After all these years? My english!? D;;;;

Nope. I ate some iron.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on November 23, 2013, 10:52:20 AM
Just saw on redshark, that Axiom is jumping on that idea in camera development:
http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1123-this-could-be-the-biggest-advance-in-camera-design-for-a-decade (http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1123-this-could-be-the-biggest-advance-in-camera-design-for-a-decade)

So there are actually people that see a future in modular devices.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 23, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
Just saw on redshark, that Axiom is jumping on that idea in camera development:
http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1123-this-could-be-the-biggest-advance-in-camera-design-for-a-decade (http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1123-this-could-be-the-biggest-advance-in-camera-design-for-a-decade)

So there are actually people that see a future in modular devices.

Not just people see a future in it. Alot of companies do as well. The fact that motorola is backing this idea gives me high hopes. They brought the first mobile phone on the market in 1973 i believe it was.

Just imagine this: When you break the phone u have now you either buy a new phone right? Or you go to the shop if its under warranty and let it get fixed (which usually costs money depending on the contract) and u get it back like 3 to 6 weeks later. Now they can simply replace the broken parts in the shop (since its alot easier to find out which parts are broken) And u get it back in like an hour perhaps?

This is the fast lane era we live in. So things like this will have to happen eventually.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Devilboy665 on November 23, 2013, 06:47:44 PM
No, actually if you drop your phone, it gets damaged in random places/parts. And you will have to pay for every broken part. As there is no warranty for people dropping phones or damaging them in any way besides the insides of it which can only be broken by those that made the phone, if they are not damaged from dropping.

I think, if you drop a lego phone, you will destroy much more parts than on normal phone. Not just the outsides of course (which can be damaged easier than the insides, from dropping)

For example, iShit gives you new iShit if that menu button goes inside a bit.

Another example: My little brother damaged charger plug-in on his phone and paid nothing, as he had warranty. I told them it's shitty job they did so it's easy to be broken.

I had about 10 phones by now, never had anything broken on them. I mean, nothing breaks on it's own.

I still agree that lego is a shit idea. Plus, Motorola is also shit.

It's not about how much time it will take to find and replace broken part, you will still have to pay for it. Maybe 5 times more for; "Quick Fix Service!"

ps. That is why you can get new Android phone for less than 50 euros today. So the idea is shit. Except for 'eco-friendly' people ofc.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on November 23, 2013, 06:59:55 PM
googled 'eco friendly people', first result:
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Feco-friendly-people-15349964.jpg&hash=ae0dbcaced1ff0ad0daf19170ae8cbde52108d61)
not disappointed.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 23, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
LMAO

btw.. why does that dude need so many tissues if he has a chick like that?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on November 23, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Because he cries everytime he sees what our economy has done to mother nature.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 23, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
No, actually if you drop your phone, it gets damaged in random places/parts. And you will have to pay for every broken part. As there is no warranty for people dropping phones or damaging them in any way besides the insides of it which can only be broken by those that made the phone, if they are not damaged from dropping.

I think, if you drop a lego phone, you will destroy much more parts than on normal phone. Not just the outsides of course (which can be damaged easier than the insides, from dropping)

For example, iShit gives you new iShit if that menu button goes inside a bit.

Another example: My little brother damaged charger plug-in on his phone and paid nothing, as he had warranty. I told them it's shitty job they did so it's easy to be broken.

I had about 10 phones by now, never had anything broken on them. I mean, nothing breaks on it's own.

I still agree that lego is a shit idea. Plus, Motorola is also shit.

It's not about how much time it will take to find and replace broken part, you will still have to pay for it. Maybe 5 times more for; "Quick Fix Service!"

ps. That is why you can get new Android phone for less than 50 euros today. So the idea is shit. Except for 'eco-friendly' people ofc.

You obviously dont think about what you are actually saying.

Warranty has many loopholes. For instance who is to say that you dropped your phone? Unless you tell them that yourself your basically simpleminded and stupid.

You dont know how many parts you break in a phonebloks phone same goes for any other phone.

Apple can give that kind of service because of the highly overprices products (macbook pro and a laptop with the same specs usually have a 750 euro difference in price and same goes for the phone) So yea you basically have paid in advance if something breaks. Besides they get manufactured for 200 or 300 a piece and sold for double or tripple that.

Well some people are carefull with their stuff and others are not. 1 out of 5 people is walking around with a cracked screen on their phone.

You are entitled to your opinion on how shit you find it. But hear this. Alot of the electronics you probably use have motorola parts in them or parts of their subsidiary companies.

It actually does matter how much time it takes these days as a mobile phone is a very important part of life right now. We cant be doing smoke signals anymore or carrier pidgeons. Also When you have a friend (or who ever) with a phonebloks phone and you have one as well. Its pretty much a give away that you can test every single piece you have on your friends phone and find the broken part. And when u find it you simply buy a new replacement part for less than what you describe. (besides custumer service would not ever charge 5 times more for the quick fix service if they wanne keep their customers. Besides they would also get behind the idea that anyone could find the broken part themselves with a second phonebloks phone)

Maybe in your country you can get a new phone for 50 bucks. But here any new phone you buy (that being a smart phone) will be more than 150 euro. Simply because phones usually stay in the shop for roughly 6 months and are then being phased out.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 24, 2013, 12:09:29 AM
It actually does matter how much time it takes these days as a mobile phone is a very important part of life right now.

Only an as important part as you make them.........

Mine is some useless piece of fuck I could throw away any time without a problem..
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 24, 2013, 10:38:42 AM
It actually does matter how much time it takes these days as a mobile phone is a very important part of life right now.

Only an as important part as you make them.........

Mine is some useless piece of fuck I could throw away any time without a problem..

So for work, school, family and friends you dont use it that often ? I use it for all those things every single day well except school right now.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 24, 2013, 12:18:55 PM
As I have said I do have a mobile phone. But it was the cheapest one I could find and I only use it for calling and texting... and as an alarm clock.

What if I told you that you do not need a 600€ toy phone to stay in contact with other people?
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 24, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
As I have said I do have a mobile phone. But it was the cheapest one I could find and I only use it for calling and texting... and as an alarm clock.

What if I told you that you do not need a 600€ toy phone to stay in contact with other people?

And thats why a phonebloks phone is so awesome. You can simply build it to your needs ;)
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: Devilboy665 on November 24, 2013, 02:35:55 PM
Maybe in your country you can get a new phone for 50 bucks. But here any new phone you buy (that being a smart phone) will be more than 150 euro. Simply because phones usually stay in the shop for roughly 6 months and are then being phased out.
Don't be a nazi. I got Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S for 100euros when I was in Austria. It was my dream phone since 2011. As I couldn't afford it before, especially here in Croatia, as it's still around 300euros for used one. As SE don't make them anymore. Even it is the best phone ever made.

From that, you again see how pointless lego phone is. Big companie make awesome phone for 6 months, like you said. Then it's time for new, up to date, better looking phone. Even Arc S is the sexiest phone ever.

There are still companies that care about the mother nature. Every phone maker company cares, because it has to. That is why they make shitty phones so you have to buy new phone every few months. And not just because of the looks.

Every OS was made to get out taded pretty fast. So when you need a new phone, it's not about the looks or performance, it's because applications and games are built to eat more and more from your phone, for no particular reason. Plus, they make applications run slower on older OS and stuff like that. And not just the HQ games. It's applications like social network applications, calculators etc.

It's all about marketing scales.

If lego phone ever hits the shelves, it must have it's own OS that won't get outdated, 100000000+ market available applications and stuff. As bluetooth, camera, wifi, don't get outdated or broken if you don't break them. Only way they get broken it's when OS that runs it gets fucked up. So even if you replace camera or bluetooth on your phone, chances are it wont work as OS is still fucked up. So you will have to update/fix your OS. Or lego plans to run like desktop PC? But anyway it want's to go, the competition will eat it! It's too late! And it never ends!!

Get it?! It's endless circle! And it's spinning around! Everyone want's to sell shit fast! 23! You know!? #illuminati
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on November 24, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
Maybe in your country you can get a new phone for 50 bucks. But here any new phone you buy (that being a smart phone) will be more than 150 euro. Simply because phones usually stay in the shop for roughly 6 months and are then being phased out.
Don't be a nazi. I got Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S for 100euros when I was in Austria. It was my dream phone since 2011. As I couldn't afford it before, especially here in Croatia, as it's still around 300euros for used one. As SE don't make them anymore. Even it is the best phone ever made.

From that, you again see how pointless lego phone is. Big companie make awesome phone for 6 months, like you said. Then it's time for new, up to date, better looking phone. Even Arc S is the sexiest phone ever.

There are still companies that care about the mother nature. Every phone maker company cares, because it has to. That is why they make shitty phones so you have to buy new phone every few months. And not just because of the looks.

Every OS was made to get out taded pretty fast. So when you need a new phone, it's not about the looks or performance, it's because applications and games are built to eat more and more from your phone, for no particular reason. Plus, they make applications run slower on older OS and stuff like that. And not just the HQ games. It's applications like social network applications, calculators etc.

It's all about marketing scales.

If lego phone ever hits the shelves, it must have it's own OS that won't get outdated, 100000000+ market available applications and stuff. As bluetooth, camera, wifi, don't get outdated or broken if you don't break them. Only way they get broken it's when OS that runs it gets fucked up. So even if you replace camera or bluetooth on your phone, chances are it wont work as OS is still fucked up. So you will have to update/fix your OS. Or lego plans to run like desktop PC? But anyway it want's to go, the competition will eat it! It's too late! And it never ends!!

Get it?! It's endless circle! And it's spinning around! Everyone want's to sell shit fast! 23! You know!? #illuminati

How does that make me a nazi? I do not see the link.

2,5 years ago i bought the Sony Arc now i own the Xperia Z. Thing is you live in a shitty part of Europe where they depend on tourism.

OS's dont get made to get outdated fast. You might see it that way but its totally wrong. You have no idea how many companies still run Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. Some are just now graduating to Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. Simply because the support for it will last till 2025 ish. With phones they simply upgrade to the new version from going to 4.1 to 4.2. Its not getting out dated phone OS's get constantly updated.

Social media apps do not use much resources like you think they do. Its usually stuff like sync services (which actually drains the Arc and Arc S within half a day just FYI so turn that off)

Bluetooth, camera, Wi-Fi will get out dated. I dont see any phones supporting 0G or 1G anymore its all 3G and soon 4G same goes for Bluetooth. And Camera well resolutions go up each time. We already hit the 4K mark on TVs etc etc.

Beauty of Linux comes right along when you talk about OS's. Linux you can install on any PC. Take out the HDD of that PC and plant it into another PC with totally different specs. You cant do that with Windows OS. There also is a Linux Mobile version which i have installed on my Sony Arc and works perfectly is faster and better than Anroid.

Endless circles don't exists in this situation as we keep moving forward and we don't meet the point where it all started. So that comment is pretty much flawed.

And it looks to me like you are one of those conspiracy nutcases. But yea like i said we live in the fast lane era right now. Where everything is moving faster than we can comprehend but thats ok.
Title: Re: Phone lego's anyone?
Post by: BikeDriver on November 24, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
As I have said I do have a mobile phone. But it was the cheapest one I could find and I only use it for calling and texting... and as an alarm clock.

What if I told you that you do not need a 600€ toy phone to stay in contact with other people?

And thats why a phonebloks phone is so awesome. You can simply build it to your needs ;)

Dude this is getting really annoying..

Even the most basic lego phone will be WAY over what I need. Why dont you just understand that much? The capability of the phone TO BE upgraded is already a gigantic waste of ressources. Even if i stay with the most basic design ever, the phone will still require to support all the other parts that I do not need. It will need the same "motherboard" as any top notch upgraded shit phone out there. It will need a screen far bigger than required by me and the overall dimensions will always be the same too.

Plus you know how the world of the rich fucks goes. They do not think rationally. They do not think twice about what screen or what camera will be suited for them. They will buy the most expensive piece there is. And they also do not wait until parts break, they will buy the latest piece of hardware that will be released for the lego phone, probably without even noticing the differences. And they will probably throw away their lego phones the same way as any other phone if it looks "worn out" some day.

This shitty concept will never work out. I stick to that.