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MTA Server - 37.187.242.161:22003 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Snipe on January 20, 2008, 03:32:06 PM
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Hi all, i was wondering which maps you think should be deleted cause they suck big time...
My nomination will be the going_down maps, since they're getting old and they bore the hell out of me!
Greets, Snipe
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i'm right with snipe!
can u delete the new going-down4 & reload the old. On my experience, i don't think the new start is better. but i don't ask to reload the old because of the start. the real reason is a question: have we the right to change something about a map who build by an another guy? ???
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Why would we reload the old going-down4 when the new start is better than the old? (even though it still isn't good)
But yes, fixing maps yourself is possible. Just ask me (nicely :P) and say what you are planning to fix and I will send you the map. Upload the fixed map when you're done (add something like "v2" to the filename). It will then be reviewed in maptesting to see if it's an improvement over the old version, and if it is, the old version will be replaced.
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CJ-NightMare---DANGER---
for the start >:(, i don't see after!
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i cant tell what map that is from here, el brujo...
What i can tell is that i want to nominate a map for deleting: that's the map where ppl have to drive rc cars through some whorehouse... with lots of dildo's and hearts and shit... seriously stupid map!
Anybody: what's the name of this map?
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Maybe we should add a few of the maps that have been on the server forever to every map test. At least then we will go through them, though slowly. Note: It's just an idea I just got. Don't know what the others think. :-)
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with 2 test map by month and with 900 races, if you test 5 maps by test map, it take 90 months! ;D
really, i think it's a good idea, but don't delete all the maps!!
you are very hard in the test map! i'm disgusted each time i post a new map!! :(
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Are you crazy? already that we have to deal with those maps each time we play.. don't add them on testing -_- we already can !delete ingame on maps that are getting boring/played too much.
Already that we fixed the going_down being voted over and over :P
Brujo: your last map, try to change the time of the day so it's not that dark, you can barely see anything, plus the start is confusing, add more cps. It could get thru with those 2 things changed.
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I think knuckles has a point there, you guys test maps every 2 weeks or so... (if not less)... Though it would be good if you were more online to delete maps when multiple ppl say it has to be deleted... As a result the total maplist will clean up a bit and you wont have to spend time in testing them like in the way brujo suggested
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What i can tell is that i want to nominate a map for deleting: that's the map where ppl have to drive rc cars through some whorehouse... with lots of dildo's and hearts and shit... seriously stupid map!
Anybody: what's the name of this map?
Lol, that map is called "ARMAX_HOME_by_ogieH".
Maybe we should add a few of the maps that have been on the server forever to every map test. At least then we will go through them, though slowly. Note: It's just an idea I just got. Don't know what the others think. :-)
I don't think that's necessary. Plop has already gone through the massive list of (untested) maps once, it took a lot of work (kudos to Plop) and much crap was deleted. The !delete command for admins works fine to do away with the bad maps that are still left on the server (already 168 maps were deleted because of it).
Also, I don't want to start deleting maps like a maniac, a nice amount of maps adds a lot of variety and keeps the game interesting, even 2 years after its release. There will always be maps that are hated by some, but that doesn't necessarily mean that *everyone* hates them and that they are absolutely no fun.
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Offcourse Cygnus, obvious that last thing what you said. I think though it has to be done a couple times, say every 6 months or so.
And about that ARMAX HOME map: kill it, burn it, kill the author and... delete it...
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yes it too simple cygnus!
just a suggestion: per la cordillera ( or something like that) is it possible to delete 4 or 5 cp?
i remember nobody finish it and 8 mns is very long. Someone of you ( admins) finish it?
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That map has already been deleted because of the !delete command.
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For overplayed maps as an admin i find it a choir to race or sit smoking when
going_down(somenumber) gets voted but also as an admin the bigger picture
than my own fun for 5mins or so is to consider new players that absolutely love
these style of races, these are the guys who might become excellent racers one
day even if its a very low percent.
LW's server is a big favorite and this percent of people who go onto playing race
well are important to keep the community fresh and fun with that i say keep the
going down style maps but i wish we had new ones. :P
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Man, wth are you talking about Martin Luther Plopking :P... Going down sucks, at least 80% of the players would agree (i hope)... Serve those noobies fresher, more playable maps and the "Most likely feeling a bit better but still nooby"-percentage/experience level will also rise :)
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what happens in going_down<insert number> :
-1 skilled player gets ahead and wins
-A few lucky and skilled players get away from the beginners and manage to follow the lead and finish
-A few skilled players get noobed at the start but managed to get on track but can't make it to the end
-The rest of the people are failing over and over the start
-Some noobs are AFK
-Some cheater appears
-Jesus kills a kitten
-Cheater is banned for cruelty against kittens
-Plop for president in 2016
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like each map! :P
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Those damned kittens always blocking and piling up at some spot in the race... damn
So very true
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So true Knuckles, though the same can be said for most maps except for the "-The rest of the people are failing over and over the start". It's just magnitudes worse on going_down maps, since the *ONLY* chance you have to overtake someone is if they fall off the track (e.g. complete fuck up). On other maps, you can overtake other people by taking a better line through a corner or taking a short cut (i.e. they don't even HAVE to fuck up!) or of they make minor mistakes. Of course there is still the chance to take over if they make a complete fuck up also, but you have so many more ways to get ahead.
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in short than: going down maps are suckage! But to be to the point and on topic :p... Which maps should also be deleted? (typed from iPod touch)
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lol raz0, i can see you have many experience about how to overtake someone!!
about going down # snipe, like platini said "tout est dans le contrôle" (all is in the control) ;D. and in the GD maps you are sure that all the noobs will not survive after 2 turns! the dream!!
ps: you can wait for a disconnect to overtake someone
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I don't see your point there brujo... Surely it's great noobs will stay behind at the start, but don't forget that the start always suck at GD maps, so if there are some noobs in the front at the start, they will take down a lot of other people with them :S... And then it will all repeat itself: noobs fuck up, taking us with them in their fall, respawn, noobs fuck up, (maybe) take us again along with some damn kittens which were piled up in the first 2 corners, respawn, etc. etc... Result: a lot of dead people and kittens... :S
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i have two races who merit an attentive study!
the first is dj, i don't remember why ( i think it's about the build) but sure it's a shit race >:(
the second is watchout. nobody remember this race but one cp is problematic. is it possible to make the cp 15 far away the water? it's a spawn cp. you arrive in boat & spawn in a monster but most of spawn is finally a drown.
i've another question: i post the wankenstein map on december but they don't appear on the test. there's a particular reason? ???
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that map described with the monster spawn is a total shit map as a whole... and off course, what brujo described especially!!! The other day i was playing some map which was hopelessly boring... cant tell what the name was, but one thing is sure: it has to go :P
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the second is watchout. nobody remember this race but one cp is problematic. is it possible to make the cp 15 far away the water? it's a spawn cp. you arrive in boat & spawn in a monster but most of spawn is finally a drown.
I'll take a look at this map next week (again, if I don't forget :P).
i've another question: i post the wankenstein map on december but they don't appear on the test. there's a particular reason? ???
Yes, I remember that some wankenstein maps were uploaded but they were all deleted before testing because they didn't have enough spawnpoints. Maps with less than 32 spawns get deleted instantly.
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I just tried that 'watchout' map the other day. It's a royal pain with the boat -> monster change. 90% of the time you just drown, and the ofther 10% you go flying uncontrollably.
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tma-saA should be, already did a !delete on it.
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watchOUT should be fixed now, no more drowns on CP 15. Also, if anyone wants to volunteer for fixing some bugged maps, please let me know. I would do it myself, but I'm already putting a lot of time in the server scripts, the mtaStats database, and map testing sessions.
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watchOUT should be fixed now, no more drowns on CP 15. Also, if anyone wants to volunteer for fixing some bugged maps, please let me know. I would do it myself, but I'm already putting a lot of time in the server scripts, the mtaStats database, and map testing sessions.
no biggie cygnus, if u pay me :P... no, j/k... if u let me know which cp's should be fixed, i want to help you guys out :)
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"TheALLRace", bah, what a pain in the ass and poorly made. >:(
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ok cygnus, if you have some maps to fix, tell me it. :)
ps: between the number of maps i upload, and the number after the test, i don't sure i'm the best choice! :P
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btw: the number of DMs could be reduced, since all the other servers play DMs all the time. This server is all about race. Sure some DM fits well after 20 maps, but not every third map and the n00bs vote for dm nonstop :(
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i don't think it's wrong to have some dm's on the server... it's an all round server, which some servers aren't :)
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Snipe is right. It's nice with an occasional DM or two. The only real problem I see is stats, since DM is bad for them. Maybe I can convince Cygnus to make some kind of system so that DM doesn't hurt your stats. :p
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yes. of course dm is nice occasionaly, but noobs vote heavy for dms, so there is almost every third map a dm :(
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I think you're overstating quite a bit now. Races heavily outnumber DMs on this server, and it happens quite often that none of the eight maps is a DM. Actually, we've tried to increase the number of DMs on the server by approving quite a few good ones in map testing. On the other hand quite a few of the old DM maps (the ones that suck royally) have been deleted too. Of course there are still some sucky ones left, but they will hopefully be deleted with time. I used to hate DM too, but that was back when all the DM maps sucked. DM can actually be quite enjoyable so long as the map is good. :-)
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héhé pro2, i see what you say. BUT ??? i think you mistake the Dm & the race. when some people ram you, it could be a DM, ... or a race!
if you want a mark, when i see all the players go in the same way, it's a race but you can be ram by the N. :P
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I nominate SLIDE.
For obvious reasons.
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SLIDE IS FUN!
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Fun it is!
and ive seen the best of you forget that first right turn :P
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Slide is kind of fun... :)
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The best DM ever should be deleted you can't even drive of the edge >:(
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Reading thru the post here I found out that you recognize only three types of players:
1)Admin (important - good)
2)Skilled players
3)noobs (critisised for not beeing able to play and for causing accidents)
+ cheaters, AFK´s etc.
But what your all forgeting is that when you started playing you must have been noobs too, or am I wrong. I for one admit that when I started at MTA about a year or so ago, I was a complete noob, not even able to finish 99 % of races. I won first time after about 3 months, and now when I´m in the wright mood, I can win 5 times in one of my play sessions (1-3 hours) so let me just ask ya´all how would you feel if someone keept saying you suck and so on. I mean sure noobs are bad, but without´em playing MTA would be it, it would be like the world without criminals -> just to fucking perfekt, bad enought to drive you nuts. Oh and You don´t have to bee so harsh on the maps(don´t mean the new ones, but the old ones) cause some of´em are really fun, maybe not well mayde but fun -> not going-down. But the LR-YoYo series are on of my favorite Loop_the_loop_Reloaded also and so on. Of course there´s the take an infernus and drive a highway which exept some really suck, cause their just downwright boaring. Takes almoust 8 min. to finish and all you do is adjust the car not to crash from ... or you press the nitrous.
Well that´s all from me, oh and I´d also be interested in helping with map testing and retesting.
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I think you have a point there, Iltigo... I started playing like 8 months ago, but i play GTA for a longer time now, so i wasn't that bad... Won once in a while, but not as much as i'm winning now (say back than like every 20 maps or so, in stead of every 5 now on average)... But you also have to admit, that having too many noobs around just sucks... And that many old maps are just getting boring because they're played too many times (say, Going_down maps and your favorite maps YOYO and L_the_L-Reloaded)... I thought Plop was busy with testing those maps and see if some could be deleted for the reason i stated earlier :)... To be conclusive, many noobs just suck and old maps have to be deleted cause they're getting boring...
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Yeah,
but I never said going_down was my favorite map, gosh actually I don´t like and it is old. But your wright on the part of too many noobs playing on littlewhiteys is bad. Not only cause it ruins the game, but also if some new skilled players arrive to have a look and see so many noobs, they just get agrevated and leave -> or at least I would.
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Talking about maps i'm SOOOO tired of the Run_run_run maps, these maps ruins totaly the map voting system, if they appears on the nomination list, they are ALWAYS played, its fun 2-3 times but when you play it 415161161 times in 1 days.... its long, boring and full of barrels and annoying objects
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Talking about maps i'm SOOOO tired of the Run_run_run maps, these maps ruins totaly the map voting system, if they appears on the nomination list, they are ALWAYS played, its fun 2-3 times but when you play it 415161161 times in 1 days.... its long, boring and full of barrels and annoying objects
for information, the run run run #'s races represent 1% of the maps we played (cf I have attached the map stats as a CSV file, that can be easily imported into programs like Excel. It turns out that the most played map is Going-Down6, closely followed by going_down and GO_GO_FAST_DOWN.
but, yeah, it's a boring map!
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The fact that those maps are played so often is that there's always something unpredictable about the outcome and some many thrills because of the hunters... I for myself always want to play the hunters, cause i enjoy the killing, especially when it comes to killing ppl who i don't like (for example noobs :P)... I can imagine tho some of those should be replaced by ones we make... Sort of retro-run-run-run-like maps by us :P
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the-jumper & the-jumper2 :P
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the-jumper & the-jumper2 :P
You want your own maps deleted? o_0
Anyway, I just played .. possibly the worst map ever: H2so4_-_Fork_you_in
It has RC Baron, horribly built ramps, cluster aeroplane vehicle change, clusterfuck start, a zigzag like path at the beginning that causes even more clusterfuck, forklift(!), retarded finish. x(
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oh i don't think they pass the map testing. i build many ecological races. they've deleted themselves :P
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Military, or atleast I think its called that. Its a really stupid DD map taking place at area 69, way too big, with pointless ramps etc. and it must be deleted.
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Military, or atleast I think its called that. Its a really stupid DD map taking place at area 69, way too big, with pointless ramps etc. and it must be deleted.
I know the one you mean, with Turismo's. It sucks
and Going_Down maps ALWAYS get the vote, i hate them (except going_down, the original)... it'd be wrong to delete them though because they're part of MTA folklore lol
maybe you could just rename them? Track-Race01, 02....?
or another idea... maybe you could have 2 map lists, one with the top 200 maps deleted... play that one on weekdays and the full list at the weekend... silly idea?
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I think Military is okay, although there are a lot of camp sites there, making it lame to sit out and watch. Also: no killer vehicle in the map!
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and Going_Down maps ALWAYS get the vote, i hate them (except going_down, the original)... it'd be wrong to delete them though because they're part of MTA folklore lol
maybe you could just rename them? Track-Race01, 02....?
doggy?!? we CAN'T delete the going-down# races and we CAN'T rename them (-->going-super-down....). IMPOSSIBLE!!
it's like a legend ::)
if hedning can see that!
ps: we can ban all the hydra race
ps2: i post going-down 3-6 and 7, héhé :P
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Snipe was right about the camp-sites in military
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi269.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj65%2FFur-Q%2Fmta-screen0025.jpg&hash=a758aff347cb0a74c0e8f25ee67c63b955e141a4)
I don't think it should be deleted though.
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...ps2: i post going-down 3-6 and 7, héhé :P
why? :|
they were deleted for a reason.
This is what makes LW more boring every day.
oh well.
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why? :|
they were deleted for a reason.
why? because i didn't know they've been already deleted! & i love the going-down!
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LOL, are there some deleted? FUCKING FABULOUS! Why didn't anyone tell me! My thought: Going down map is deleted >>> didn't notice a god damn thing >>> so you might think that the G_D maps don't add anything to the LW server (i personally think that's a fact really) :)
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LOL, are there some deleted? FUCKING FABULOUS! Why didn't anyone tell me!
:P
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-- Nascar --
- Ooh! They're making a left turn! Look! Another left turn! LEFT TURN! ([O.o]Alpha)
- ZOMG LEFT! (Knuckles)
lol alpha!!
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Cookies to whoever knows where that comment is stolen from.
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Cookies to whoever knows where that comment is stolen from.
Is this a joke question or what :P
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No, I stole the joke that's in the comment for map deletion.
Anyone who knows where the joke originated gets a cookie, simple.
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I'm too lazy for searching, besides, I get cake from Plop already, so no real profit for me here
Spoiler: It's Jeff Dunham with Sweet Daddy D, thanks raz0 lol, STILL beat ya to it muhahahahahahaha
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Huh? Not at all.
It's from a comedy show..
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Hola, Maximusje is in da house -- somehow my account was activated whitout me getting an activation mail (Cygnus ''hand''?).
Alright this map should be deleted: Noobkiller (or something like that). Reason: it has stupid jumps and it isn't a big noobkiller as the only hard ''trick'' can be cut because of bad cp placement.
About the Going Down maps: they are alright, although I hate them. Think of this: haven't you ever laughed in this map? I have and some people love 'em. So I suggest to keep one or two going down maps, delete the worst ones.
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I nominate ARMAX_HOME_by_ogieH this is the map with all the dildo's its pointless... :-\