littlewhitey's Servers Forum (SA-MP/VC-MP/MTA/Zomboid)
MTA Server - 37.187.242.161:22003 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Snipe on March 18, 2008, 08:41:34 PM
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Lo all, i was wondering what the general opinion was of you all when it comes to our admins here... Also think it's a good place to talk about what some admins do well and what's being done badly... My opinion is that the admins do their work just okay, although in the morning and early afternoon no admins are around (think it's hard to fix that, since lots of ppl are offline, so we have to live with that when there is/are cheater(s) around and no admins :P)
In other words: your opinion is more than welcome!
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for the time where there are no admins, we could lower the percantage needed to vote against someone. (many ppl don't vote)
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or we can allowed someone to ban the cheaters( & only the cheaters, not the rammers) , it's easy to control for the real admins.
in fact there is many levels to admin a server. level 2 can allow you to mute or unmute someone(!), level4, it's the ban, etc.....
but, to be exactly, when a cheater is on the server, the usuals players don't call the admins & try to votekick the cheater((. the votekick serve to nothing because the cheater can join the server after. so if the usuals players call the admins, they can quickly ban him.
so i vote for fur-Q! :D
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It's hard to determine whether there need to be more admins or just some more online-time for the admins... There are always times that admins aren't able to be online, simply cause it's not done (say 10 o'clock in the morning)... For myself for example, i'm most of the time at school, so during the day i'm only home around 5 in the afternoon, not even online or anything... What do you think of this, should there be more admins or need they to be more online?
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Blame the fact of being a Guild Master for a end game raiding guild......
WoW :P
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What do you think of this, should there be more admins or need they to be more online?
for me it's the same thing to be online or not. if they're online, i don't have to call it and if they aren't, i call them. BUT... i think more admins is a good idea too for the nosee (hidden?) cheats->rammers, laggers, blockers.
and why an admin have to be always online? it changes nothing if someone can call them when there is a cheater. playing mta need to have pleasure, it' not a work!
(sorry for my english)
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Yes... well, it's not work, that's a point well made... Though, admins are the "chosen people" which need to bann cheaters, in this way it's not really work, just a criterium for having a cheater-free server (if that's possible)... Brujo, what do you mean with hidden cheaters??? The ones who can't be seen from IRC from an admin's point of view or something else?
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Brujo, what do you mean with hidden cheaters??? The ones who can't be seen from IRC from an admin's point of view or something else?
the hidden cheaters conspiracy!!
they are everywhere :D
i just talk about the professionnal rammers or blockers like domtito, mr drowned, jrman :P,... and these noobs who driving backwards!
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Yes, they are a pain in the motherf*cking @ss! I think still there should be 2 more admins who are available in the morning and early afternoon, since cheaters then can noob around freely!!! They stick around for like 45 minutes and when an admin reacts on irq, they're gone with the wind, result: no banning and a chance to come back later...
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I also think that the admins on the server are doing there part well, but I still have to say that the early mornings and afternoons are a bit skimpy. My idea of early mornings may be a bit diferent since I think I have a diferent timezone, but server time is about 4-5 am that´s when I recall seeing bad behaviour. I know this part will sound a bit weird. But I do like playing on LittleWhitey´s and I´ve been playing there for a while now, actually if you look at my XFire Profile @ www.xfire.com/profile/Iltigo I´ve got some hours played, and I don´t play on a lot of other server, unless LW is empty. So think 89% played on LW. And I openly say, that as a reply to your "early mornings and afternoons" I wouldn´t mind looking over the server at those times, in fakt I´d be more than happy to. So take my offer into account pls, and give me a reply. ;)
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PeAcE OuT AlL
Iltigo
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actually if you look at my XFire Profile @ www.xfire.com/profile/Iltigo
now i know all about your game life iltigo! ;) 227hours for 1527 races, so if i've 10127 races, i lost 1505 hours of my life on gta!! :P
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Oh man dude... what the hell do you mean lost, I´d say you enjoyed 1500 hours of your life.
Btw I´m still awating a reply for my offer(I´ll take even a negative one as long as I know what´s up)
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Iltigo, i don't think there is much difference between the timezone you're in and the timezone of the rest of the players/server... As far as i can see on your xfire profile, you're from the Czech Republic... The server is in the Netherlands, i don't even think there's any difference between the timezones, it's in the same timezone!!! Unless off course, you're available between 9.00 and 15.00, than it's no problem... But than again: i'm not the one deciding about these things since i'm no admin lol
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You got that wright bruh ;)
But seeing as I usually play very late at night if not morning I think of myself as playing in a different timezone. Sure you may think I´m makin ´ this up, but as far as things go I may just be available between 9.00 and 15.00. when I get a data plan to get on the internet from school I´ d be more than happy to do something else than listen to what teachers have to say ;D.
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For those of you who don't already know, here is how it usually goes.
1) A cheater is discovered, typically by a regular.
2) He or she calls for an admin by saying something like 'cygnus, thealpha, plop, knuckles, raz0: some_name is cheating!'.
3) This text is shown on IRC in channel #littlewhitey.mtarace.
4) Most IRC clients have what is called highlight, which is a feature that typically makes a sound and colours text in another colour if a message with your name is received. Hence, an online admin will see the message about the cheater quite quickly.
5) If the cheater is known, the admin might ban the cheater right away. If not, the admin will go in game, typically covertly, and try to confirm that the person is indeed cheating.
6) If the admin determines that the person is indeed cheating (this might take a few races, if there are instant-respawn maps up), the cheater will be banned.
Now, the admins typically won't reply when you say someone is cheating. This is on purpose! We don't want to scare away the cheater. Just have patience.
Also, please don't votekick. Admins don't always notice these (lack of highlight). It also serves no real purpose, since whoever gets kicked can just join right away again.
Furthermore, the admins are probably more online than you think exactly because many of us like to play covertly. :-)
Now, I agree. There is a lack of admins to monitor the server at night sometimes, and if we were to expand with more admins, I would definitely vote for someone in an American time zone.
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Thanks for clearing that up(the second time for me) - moving on - yes I undestand your aproach and it seems very logical, even your opinion on voting an american timezone admin seems very logical. There still however lies the question of how many american players offered that they would administrate?! yeah I know it´s a sneaky question ... ??? 8) ;D
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Raz0, do you actually know some American players who play on LW's, i certainly don't... And if they were to play on LW's, i bet their ping's will suck, so they get kicked all the time :P
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Raz0, do you actually know some American players who play on LW's, i certainly don't... And if they were to play on LW's, i bet their ping's will suck, so they get kicked all the time :P
my point exatly...
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Well, I think the admins are doing a great job, but like others have mentioned there arent always admins online, so sometimes you really want more admins on the server. It would be good if the votekick system allowed for less votes in order to kick a cheater, and that it would effectivly lock out the cheater for maybe 30minutes, more like a temporary ban.
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Yeah Accident. I've actually suggested that exact same idea before. It's easy enough to change the bot to just ban instead of kick when people vote for it, but the problem is unbanning again. Sure you can make a timer for 30 minutes, but what happens if the bot dies in between? There is a lot of things to consider here, so the implementation, although possible, will be more complex than you'd first assume. It also need to be tested thoroughly so we know that it can be trusted. Wouldn't want someone to be permanently banned because of !voteban - right? :)
As for knowing an American player - well, I don't really know the nationality of most players, since I haven't asked. Anyway, I assume finding one would be a simple matter of observing the server at night for regulars and ask where they are from? :) And for the record, Knuckles is an American (from Canada) and his ping is quite fine for racing.
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I'm usually having a ping from around 130 and I'm oversea, I'm the "late night" admin most of the time, you'll never see me on mornings since I'll be sleeping (or about to go sleep).
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I don't know if this idea is possible but I think that a lot more ppl would vote if the kicking is like the mapvote you know with 'press 1 to vote yes and 2 to vote no.' ???
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MCvarial: Unfortunately that's not possible in MTA:Race - only in MTA:DM.
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Ah to bad :(
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Well, if a new admin should be chosen... i think we should choose someone from the east :P... let's say Japan or China... lol... time difference is about 8 hours... so if the time there is 15.00 in the afternoon, it's 7 o'clock in the morning here... ideal solution i think lol... now, someone from China or Japan would be nice... :P :P :P :P :P
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HI ya all,
so choosing someone from the east, may be a good idea, but there still is the question of is someone from that region interested in being an admin, and can he be trusted. In other news, I´m practily sure that as soon as I get a data plan I´ll be able to enter the the IRC channel during afternoons while in school, partly because there isn´t much to do, partly because I´m bored in a lot of subject, and partly cause I always wanted to browse the web while in school. As for early morning... well you can just look at the time I posted this reply. There was the idea of lookin thru the server at early morning an askin ppl where they are from. I wrote down a couple of people that played at those hours, my opinion on them is that the aren´t exatly skilled players, in fact you might even say there noobs. But what suprised me the most, was that of the 4 player excluding me, 2 where from the Czech Republic, on was from Norway and the last one didn´t reply, but judging by his handle(nick) I´d say he was most likely european. You all keep saying someone from the american timezones, but I think it can´t heart to try me. You know a trial. A couple of days than examine the results and decide, wheter it was usefull, or useless. If I would fail you wouldn´t have to fire me, cause I´d quit myself. But if you ask me, 8 admins are better then 7:)
Cheers
Iltigo
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I think it's not healthy to be up that late for some adminwork for a couple of people on the server... it's only in the late morning and early afternoon, when there are around 10 people and 1 cheater... that's just plain annoying when there is no admin around :)... besides, Knuckles is online in the nighttimes here, since the time at his place than is around 3 in the afternoon, so no need for a nighttime admin i think... :)