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Recycle Bin => Suggestions (2008-2011) => SA-MP Archive (2015) => SA-MP Archive => Recycle Bin => Rejected Suggestions => Topic started by: enkei on February 04, 2010, 03:59:05 PM
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After a race begins, i say we make it against the rules for a rustler to destroy the racers.
1. They are faster.
2. Their guns destroy infernuses in seconds.
3. They are impossible to avoid.
4. Someone in your passenger seat gunning cannot destroy them (too far away).
5. A single rustler can completely ruin a race.
6. You cannot hire people to shoot down the rustlers during a race, or you're typing will cause your race position to drop.
7. It is nearly impossible for a rustler to crash, since races are on highways. (nothing to crash into).
8. Takes absolutely no skill (unlike helikilling) to pilot a rustler, so any old noob can do it.
9. If you hide your vehicle in a tunnel, you comprimise your winning capabilities.
10. All around unfair, cheap, unstoppable, fun-ruining tactic, and should be monitored.
I'm not saying ban the rustler-fags, but at least kick them so us racers can finish a race. Raceblocking, tireshooting, passenger w/ smg, or a gunner on the roof is legit. Those methods all can be avoided. A rustler on your tail ensures a 100% probability of losing the race.
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i agree but driving a rustler is very hard atleast for me lol.
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It would require an admin at every point of the race on all of the races so why implement a rule that can not be enforced?
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Suggested in an similar way and been denied often enough.
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i agree but driving a rustler is very hard atleast for me lol.
Thats because you have to fly it
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i agree but driving a rustler is very hard atleast for me lol.
Thats because you have to fly it
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Im not sure about this. Rustlers pissed me off thousands times when I was winning races and I don't like them, but your suggestion is kinda against the idea of the DeathMatch. As Scott or someone said in another suggestion topic (races in virtual world I think) it's a dm and you are racing on your own risk. What is more shooting racers from a rustlers is not as easy as you think (I've tried it once).
Not +1 and not -1, Im just giving arguments for and against.
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True, they're annoying, but if you really want a legit race this is totally not the server to have it in. I don't like this suggestion.
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I dont like this, sry but facing against rustlers is part of the game, that is why the server is called DeathMatch.
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Roadblocks and raceshooters(not those at the start) make our unique littlewhitey`s deathmatch races.
also rustlers are included (;
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True, true. This is a deathmatch.
The definition of "Deathmatch" is as follows.
A competitive mode commonly found in first-person shooter games, in which all player's characters are given the same starting abilities, items, and attributes, and equal playing ground where competitors usually attempt to assassinate one another.
Rustlers are impossible to kill when youre in a race, making the term "Deathmatch" un-applicable.
...if you really want a legit race this is totally not the server to have it in.
Littlewhiteys (sadly) has the best racing system. I've searched high and low for a racing system where you have to mod your own car (no /nos commands), race for cash that is bankable, and isnt full of stupid stunting ramps. I hate all those race+stunt+mod servers, where there is no competition or goal.
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Well, I noticed you suggested one thing:
6. You cannot hire people to shoot down the rustlers during a race, or you're typing will cause your race position to drop.
In my case, some squad mates would be racing and others rustling or blocking or what not. Team work is essentially the key to success in this server (and in general this mod) I'm sure if before hand you get some friends to shoot down the rustlers, or fly them somewhere far way (the rustlers, so nobody can get in to begin with) and keep them synced so they dont respawn then others can't do much about it. You yourself have some pretty good teamwork going on in your lan parties. Remember the swat tank? ;)
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i know that in lvp whne u are in minigame slike /sawnoff your like in another map.Maybe racers could be in thta other map with nothing to fuck them up or something.
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i know that in lvp whne u are in minigame slike /sawnoff your like in another map.Maybe racers could be in thta other map with nothing to fuck them up or something.
No, that's not lw style
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1) Put yourself in Mods / Admins position, it's pretty hard to catch a guy who is ruining the race with a rustler.
2) I also sometimes rage quit when I'm in a race all around SA then a guy comes with a rustler then ruins all what I was doing, but as SUPERBAD always says, its part of the game and it makes the races even more fun / exciting.
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-1... piloting a rustler is easy... but flying it close enough to the car in order to hit, is not so easy... at such low altitude there is plenty of shit to hit.. street signs, street lights, bridges, trees, poles.... i seen people complete all around SA with rustlers after them... rustlers don't have brakes. when car stops, it takes quite some time to turn around for another go...
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...rustlers don't have brakes. when car stops, it takes quite some time to turn around for another go...
Rustlers arent competing to be in 1st place. Hitting the brakes, and stopping wont get you anywhere. The rustler can wait. You as a racer cannot wait.
...Put yourself in Mods / Admins position, it's pretty hard to catch a guy who is ruining the race with a rustler.
I simply /re myself, so an admin can look, and see that i'm being chased by one. I'm not going to try to look for his ID way up in the sky. So its easy to report myself. /re 0 help! (and i have lost barely any race time).
i know that in lvp whne u are in minigame slike /sawnoff your like in another map.Maybe racers could be in thta other map with nothing to fuck them up or something.
Then raceblockers wouldnt be able to ruin races... which is allowed, and i can tolerate.
@Scott - But i only have my LAN parties every weekend or so, and i often times play by myself at home.. so i really have no backup at all.
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:-\There must be a solution to this
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Just keep posting your defensive comments, and i'll keep proving them wrong. Rustlers are unfair. My dad always said i'd grow up to be a hostage negotiator.
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Well +1
Cant you make like when your in the red marker with a Rustler that it disapears?
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Well +1
Cant you make like when your in the red marker with a Rustler that it disapears?
Awesome idea man. Keep em coming. Lets turn this boat around people.
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Rustlers are cool, dmers that dont even participate in that race are more annoying imo..
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Rustlers are cool, dmers that dont even participate in that race are more annoying imo..
I agree, rustlers are cool. But they are not cool when you use them to ruin a race. Dont get me wrong, flying around shooting cars that are driving on the highway is legit.. but just not during a race. I've had rustlers on my tail several times when i wasnt racing, and i never complained about it. I only complain when its during a race.
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well +1, i really understand you enkei... but try to get it, most of rustlers are regulars, skilled players. so try to be friends with them lol... most rustlers dont shoot me now, they cover me D:
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Keep the rustlers!
It's deathmatch, not a race server. Races are hard to do but very funny cause you never know what is going to happen. Will Roach and me waiting for you with a roadblock? Rustlers on your ass? People following and shooting you? Passengers doing driveby?
Just take it the way it is, or go to a race/stuntserver. Even I have problems when I'm racing and I curse the motherfuckers fucking up my race, but after all I still can laugh about it. Watch my 'fucking up a race' vids and see how much fun it is. There's is plenty you can do to avoid race fuck ups, like mentioned earlier, hire someone who chases rustlers, or take a passenger with you who can empty his uzi on your opponents, let them pop tires or whatever.
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Keep the rustlers!
It's deathmatch, not a race server. Races are hard to do but very funny cause you never know what is going to happen. Will Roach and me waiting for you with a roadblock? Rustlers on your ass? People following and shooting you? Passengers doing driveby?
Just take it the way it is, or go to a race/stuntserver. Even I have problems when I'm racing and I curse the motherfuckers fucking up my race, but after all I still can laugh about it. Watch my 'fucking up a race' vids and see how much fun it is. There's is plenty you can do to avoid race fuck ups, like mentioned earlier, hire someone who chases rustlers, or take a passenger with you who can empty his uzi on your opponents, let them pop tires or whatever.
Yea do what he says, he is wise ;D
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Well +1
Cant you make like when your in the red marker with a Rustler that it disapears?
Do what this guy says he's very smart/wise/sexy
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I think the rustlers make the race just interesting :)
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I founded and lead a Rustler gang on this Server and I cant believe what you are calling for! If there is a race like "All around San Andreas" there is really alot of skill needed to shoot someone that doesnt crash down. You need to fly close to the bottom to shoot the racers. Intelligent racers are able to avoid the Rustlers easily by slowing down for a second. Rustlers cant slowdown like cars, so they cant shoot cars down! If you ask me everyone who complains about Rustlers at races has no driving skill!
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Skop
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How bout while racing, u just pay someone else (or a friend) to shoot down the race-ruining rustlers with other rustlers.....
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How bout while racing, u just pay someone else (or a friend) to shoot down the race-ruining rustlers with other rustlers.....
mh he could b to late u will lose your position cuz u have to pm mayb he doesnt accepts the offer and if there no friends online?!
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You Can Always buy me ;)
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You Can Always buy me ;)
i keep doing that
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Hi, I'm your dear friend ;D Gryphus One, the professional race destroyah hehehe. Although I have only shot at you in a race once (because I have only seen you in the game twice, and the second time you weren't racing), so if someone has shot you in more races, it must have been any other player.
I will answer you in red text, so I don't make hundreds of quote blocks:
After a race begins, i say we make it against the rules for a rustler to destroy the racers.
1. They are faster.
Well, they are a bit faster than an Infernus at max speed, but don't think there's much difference. The plane's biggest advantage is to fly straight in the curves.
2. Their guns destroy infernuses in seconds.
Only if you manage to stay behind the car for enough time, which is not always so easy because sometimes the cars brake, or the plane has to avoid certain obstacles, etc.
3. They are impossible to avoid.
Well, in that case I don't know how it is possible that many cars manage to finish the race, maybe they are cheating? ::)
4. Someone in your passenger seat gunning cannot destroy them (too far away).
Maybe it's difficult for them to destroy the plane, but they can damage it seriously.
5. A single rustler can completely ruin a race.
I repeat the same as in point 3.
6. You cannot hire people to shoot down the rustlers during a race, or you're typing will cause your race position to drop.
But you can do it before the race starts if you plan to join it.
7. It is nearly impossible for a rustler to crash, since races are on highways. (nothing to crash into).
O rly?? and what about road signals, lamp posts, trees and bridges? remember that a plane is much wider than any car ;)
8. Takes absolutely no skill (unlike helikilling) to pilot a rustler, so any old noob can do it.
Ok, you have definitely shown that you haven't ever flown a Rustler.
9. If you hide your vehicle in a tunnel, you comprimise your winning capabilities.
10. All around unfair, cheap, unstoppable, fun-ruining tactic, and should be monitored.
Don't you know Mario Kart? it's full of random elements that can ruin someone's race after a perfect driving.
I'm not saying ban the rustler-fags, but at least kick them so us racers can finish a race. Raceblocking, tireshooting, passenger w/ smg, or a gunner on the roof is legit. Those methods all can be avoided.
Well, a set of dumpers and/or buses blocking a highway bridge over the water can't be easier to avoid than a plane that must maintain a minimun speed to be in the air...
A rustler on your tail ensures a 100% probability of losing the race.
Rustlers are impossible to kill when youre in a race, making the term "Deathmatch" un-applicable.
You can ask someone to get another Rustler and chase me. Even if he doesn't manage to shoot me down, at least you ensure that the air combat will stop me focusing on the racers.
2) I also sometimes rage quit when I'm in a race all around SA then a guy comes with a rustler then ruins all what I was doing, but as SUPERBAD always says, its part of the game and it makes the races even more fun / exciting.
YEAH!!! +1
@Scott - But i only have my LAN parties every weekend or so, and i often times play by myself at home.. so i really have no backup at all.
Well this is unbelievable!!! :o
Do you really think that all of us who play in teams, are gathered in a Lan party and that we don't play each one in our house? teams are formed of members from many different countries.
well +1, i really understand you enkei... but try to get it, most of rustlers are regulars, skilled players. so try to be friends with them lol... most rustlers dont shoot me now, they cover me D:
Yeah, great idea!! one or two racers have become my friends so I protect them instead of shooting them, and they also pay protection (something that is very typical of the mafias, which GTA turns around).
Although after you have asked for this, >:( I won't accept your money and will keep shooting you.