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Title: [I]Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
So many reasons.. lots of the ww'ers would be free.

1 - Would place another level of balance between ww and rw, and now with 4shot allowed, it's even more needed imo
2 - WW Clans use cbug, more clans is more fun
3 - Gives admins a break
4 - Players like it
5 - Doesn't make a difference for a nub to be killed by cbug or by sawn/tec. Actually they put up more of a fight against a cbugger
6 - No obligation to use it.. it's your choice
7 - In need of players
8 - Cake

Btw, I'm posting this as a player, not in the name of the admin team. It's something that occured to me and alot of other players but it's not anything that's been recently discussed within the staff.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 07, 2010, 01:43:20 PM
Straight yes from me.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH)XiZ on February 07, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
HELL YES.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 07, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
sure thing, allow it
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: iShine on February 07, 2010, 01:46:18 PM
Yes, allow it.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AlvarEEEz[1g]~ on February 07, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Would be a lot of sliding cause of .3, but yes
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: mayhem on February 07, 2010, 01:53:29 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 07, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
That mean 2 shoots with sawn will be allowed?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 01:56:58 PM
That mean 2 shoots with sawn will be allowed?
Wtf does 2 shot have anything to do with cbug?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 07, 2010, 01:58:13 PM
That mean 2 shoots with sawn will be allowed?
Wtf does 2 shot have anything to do with cbug?
lol no just ask,and no from me for cbug
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH.P)ST3V3N on February 07, 2010, 02:06:18 PM
Yes allow it :) Scott i hope you win this xD
Look at it this way:Half of the player son the server maybe even more go on SFR or another ww server just to practice c-bug.
We would have alot more players for that and would be helpful for liek scott said.When ur sawns vs a deagle u have more chance to win with c-bug.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: tony_ab on February 07, 2010, 02:06:41 PM
you dont want cbug robably because you dont know it lol.

I say big yes, this could help abit.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH)XiZ on February 07, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
you dont want cbug robably because you dont know it lol.

I say big yes, this could help abit.
Orly? ti isto mislis da si najpametniji i da sve znas  :-\
yes he knows a lot since he wants cbug to be accepted.

voted yes
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: PuBerZz on February 07, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Voted yes.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: rohit on February 07, 2010, 02:15:53 PM
i have voted yes but i still don't know how to use c-bug.... :( :(
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH.P)ST3V3N on February 07, 2010, 02:38:20 PM
i have voted yes but i still don't know how to use c-bug.... :( :(

If ever i see you im gonna show you how to do it.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 07, 2010, 02:42:55 PM
YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!! YES!

No waiting for money and i always liked playing lw's with deagle and with c-bug i can spree them down and have a higher chance to kill ppl with sawn/uzi MORE ww clans will come here cuz it so much better with c-bug


+1


i saw scott playing on sfr thats where the idea is from am i rite?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Shizalk on February 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM
YESSSS!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Bloodst3r on February 07, 2010, 02:46:11 PM
My vote is between Yes and No, No because when some randoms on the server and dunno even what C-bug is they keep reporting the c-bugger for cheats, and even if he knew whats the C-bug he wont be able to use it, so thats not fair for him.

Yes because it would be fun to use it D:, so half no half yes for me lol.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 07, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
cbug (this one was a lil scripted, but it looks pretty much the same):
SAMP- Fast Rapid Fire (cbug) with no clip script (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFRGf_hwHJM#)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 07, 2010, 02:53:59 PM
heey thats meth :p greetings from watergirl 8)

[SAE]Zegro vs Eg0ist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVi3PcP1FkM#)

beat that.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 02:56:31 PM
i have voted yes but i still don't know how to use c-bug.... :( :(

Search cbug sa:mp on youtube, you'll know
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: rohit on February 07, 2010, 03:17:55 PM
ohk.... i will look for it....and by the time it is allowed on the server i will try to master it...
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: robbynab on February 07, 2010, 03:24:30 PM
Has been denied for so many times, but I think it'd be a nice addition to da server, yes here.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: rohit on February 07, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
i got this video where c-bug is explained with 2 shots also. so igonre 2 shot and see c-bug.
explained very nicely.

SA:MP 2 Shot & Crouch-Bug Tutorial [GERMAN] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCsSrovav2Y#ws)

Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 07, 2010, 03:33:41 PM
Face it we need something new (C-BUG) everyone agreed atleast for now so why not accept it?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: rohit on February 07, 2010, 03:37:40 PM
everyone agreed atleast for now so why not accept it?
true, most votes are yes, that means most of us or say almost everyone need this (c-bug) on the server.....
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 07, 2010, 03:39:16 PM
Face it we need something new (C-BUG) everyone agreed atleast for now so why not accept it?
Dude, it has been suggested today. They cant make a (imo big) decision that fast.


And no from me, it takes all the ban-risking fun away! a what the hell, i vote yes
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
i saw scott playing on sfr thats where the idea is from am i rite?
Nah I've been wanting this for like.. ever.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: dugi on February 07, 2010, 04:29:52 PM
Voted yes, it will make the admins job easier and decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 07, 2010, 04:42:16 PM
Face it we need something new (C-BUG) everyone agreed atleast for now so why not accept it?
a what the hell, i vote yes

Thats the spirit!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: tony_ab on February 07, 2010, 04:52:33 PM
Voted yes
accepted! xDDDDD
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: blewert on February 07, 2010, 05:07:18 PM
sure, we can try it out
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Carolicious on February 07, 2010, 05:07:37 PM
Voted yes, it will make the admins job easier and decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned.
x2
but dont forget to mention the cocky donators  :-\

it would help to restore a balance between rw and ww weapons and probably bring a few more ww-players on the server, yes
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: NiGHTM4RE on February 07, 2010, 05:08:55 PM
Why not?
Vote Yes.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 07, 2010, 05:09:58 PM
Prepare for my cbug bitches, i will be unstoppable!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on February 07, 2010, 05:11:55 PM
Yes. Not because I need it, ill probably still keep using rw. I voted yes, cuz even more than no cbug annoys me the low ammount of players. Allow ppl to cbug and advertise it everywhere you can, thats my suggestion :P
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: CranK_Max on February 07, 2010, 05:28:43 PM
Sry but I don´t like c-bug  :-\
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Swanson on February 07, 2010, 05:52:05 PM
I don't like it either even though I know it's a game. Keep it real for as much as possible. So reload your gun like everybody else if that isn't too much asked. It's called c-bug, a bug, and that shouldn't be exploited.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: -CJ- on February 07, 2010, 06:20:12 PM
Big yes from me.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 06:24:54 PM
I don't like it either even though I know it's a game. Keep it real for as much as possible. So reload your gun like everybody else if that isn't too much asked. It's called c-bug, a bug, and that shouldn't be exploited.

There's lodes of bugs people use in the game and are not only allowed but well looked upon at... The fact that you switch weapons to not reload, that can be considered a bug; the fact that a car explodes earlier if you keep shooting it after in flames could be considered a bug; /stop for jumping out of cars; sync shooting; side shooting and on and on.

This game is full of bugs and imo, cbug is one that makes it more fun. Because if this mod were 100% bug free it would be shit, full of autoaimers and no fun whatsoever. SA:MP is by far not a realistic game and cbug aint the only name people have for it.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Reny on February 07, 2010, 06:25:49 PM
Finally....i dont think that there is need for poll,this is accepted
...Yes from me cause am big wwer :P
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: j.king on February 07, 2010, 06:26:48 PM
yes!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Swanson on February 07, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
I agree it's a game full of bugs. But the main purpose of the game is the shooting, therefore I don't support c-bug. I guess it might be fun but there are servers that allow it. I just like it the way it is now. For example 2-shot with shotgun isn't allowed but some people love it, while others get upset by it. This should be allowed too when c-bug gets allowed?

Btw I don't support 2-shot, it's just the part of 'realism' that we have should be contained imo.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 06:32:47 PM
Cbug is bigger than 2shot from what I've seen within this community.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH.P)ST3V3N on February 07, 2010, 07:41:15 PM
I dont get the point of 2 shot.Its about same thing as 4 shot.Anyway C-bug is usefull and fun to use.If u would sue it you would notice that c-bug is much more fun then plain deagle.Anyway i Voted yes and that wont change.i think that we wont have any problems getting it allowed exept if the lw staff are all against.I know its a bugg but look like scott sai du already use alot of bugs that you dont know off.If u dont like it dont use it.But dont punish the whole server for only 25 poeple or so.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: SUPERBAD on February 07, 2010, 08:30:09 PM
I really dislike these bugs: switching, /stop, cbug, fireing a burned car to make it explode too fast, enter a vehicle to kill the driver bug, no reload bug,....

Sorry if I call them bugs, you can call this "SKILLZ" if you feel better.


I am pretty sure we wont get many ppl from other servers just because of allowing "c-bug". Most of them do not even know is not allowed here.

and I can not understand why ppl want this cause it would be less work for us admins (in times where only a few players are online)
and I cant understand to allow c-bug to decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned.
wtf?
They just will find other things to get banned for. And why should we decrease the ammount of cocky players? Cause we dont like them? Isnt it good to have ppl on deathmatch server, who u dont like?
And we dont need even less players.





But I guess we will allow this, because:
In times of helikilling/drivebying/switching/ /stop abuse  ... it does not make real sense to disallow c-bug.
If we do, we should also think about 2shot. The discussion will come soon or later, why not talk direct over it.
When we allowed switching, managment members said we will never allow c-bug. And now...
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 07, 2010, 08:33:06 PM
what is with everybody and relating cbug to 2shot... o_o

Also SUPERBAD:
Sorry if I call them bugs, you can call this "SKILLZ" if you feel better.
It's not about feeling better, but some bugs such as cbug do require skill to master.

I am pretty sure we wont get many ppl from other servers just because of allowing "c-bug". Most of them do not even know is not allowed here.
Wrong. People that already knew about the server might be more eager to come knowing that they can fight how they're used to without getting banned.

and I can not understand why ppl want this cause it would be less work for us admins (in times where only a few players are online)
and I cant understand to allow c-bug to decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned.
wtf?
They just will find other things to get banned for. And why should we decrease the ammount of cocky players? Cause we dont like them? Isnt it good to have ppl on deathmatch server, who u dont like?
And we dont need even less players.
These two sorta answer themselves. You see I'd rather be shooting at someone who I dislike and have a server with higher player count than no players at all.

Also I'd like to add that the current vote pretty much speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 07, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
I really dislike these bugs: switching, /stop, cbug, fireing a burned car to make it explode too fast, enter a vehicle to kill the driver bug, no reload bug,....

Sorry if I call them bugs, you can call this "SKILLZ" if you feel better.


I am pretty sure we wont get many ppl from other servers just because of allowing "c-bug". Most of them do not even know is not allowed here.

and I can not understand why ppl want this cause it would be less work for us admins (in times where only a few players are online)
and I cant understand to allow c-bug to decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned.
wtf?
They just will find other things to get banned for. And why should we decrease the ammount of cocky players? Cause we dont like them? Isnt it good to have ppl on deathmatch server, who u dont like?
And we dont need even less players.





But I guess we will allow this, because:
In times of helikilling/drivebying/switching/ /stop abuse  ... it does not make real sense to disallow c-bug.
If we do, we should also think about 2shot. The discussion will come soon or later, why not talk direct over it.
When we allowed switching, managment members said we will never allow c-bug. And now...
Im with u :)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH.P)ST3V3N on February 07, 2010, 08:48:15 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 07, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
I dont think anyone is every perm banned for doing that.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 07, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
I dont think anyone is every perm banned for doing that.
I know one whos banned for this,NatPagle[UB]
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 07, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
I dont think anyone is every perm banned for doing that.
I know one whos banned for this,NatPagle[UB]
Perm banned? Link?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: robbynab on February 07, 2010, 08:55:20 PM
Perm banned = no unban :o
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 07, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
I dont think anyone is every perm banned for doing that.
I know one whos banned for this,NatPagle[UB]
Perm banned? Link?
http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12269.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12269.0.html)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 07, 2010, 09:13:34 PM
i ahve a good question If someone has been perm banned for c-bug cause he always do it.Will they be unbanned?
I dont think anyone is every perm banned for doing that.
I know one whos banned for this,NatPagle[UB]
Perm banned? Link?
http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12269.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12269.0.html)
Afaik that guy dissapeared according to that topic
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Reny on February 07, 2010, 09:33:33 PM
Tigro,nobody got perm ban for cbug,and never will if its not allowed,but soon it will be allowed.Nat_Pagle just didnt posted ban appeal,he got unbanned now
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: PuBerZz on February 07, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
Stick to Cbug please, stop mentioning 2shot in the discussion >.>
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: !!Puffin on February 07, 2010, 09:44:43 PM
I like the idea :x
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [LW][KFJ]Zegro REPRESENT on February 07, 2010, 09:45:41 PM
I like the idea :x
yes from me
:)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: SUPERBAD on February 07, 2010, 11:02:47 PM
@ Scott,
I just wanted to tell I dont care how anyone want to call it.
and no the questions dont answer themselves.

If you  read my post completly, you saw I said yes for cbug, but not because of reasons like:

Gives admins a break
Doesn't make a difference for a nub to be killed by cbug or by sawn/tec. Actually they put up more of a fight against a cbugger.
In need of players
Cake
admins job easier
decrease amount of cocky players who cbug just to get banned
No obligation to use it.. it's your choice

these reasons does not make much sense to me.
The ppl who just do cbug to get banned, will find something other to get banned for.
If we really want to increase the ammount of players, we got to do things for new player, so they can get faster a nice start. It doesnt motivate totally new player if another can shoot faster with his deagle than him.
We got so few players, so many mods/admins,  a lot of help by lwbot & co... Its not as much work as it used to be. I can not support a rulechange where players get banned for, because admins would have less work.
Everything is your choise... if you switch or dont, if you helikill or not, if you driveby or not... even if we would allow cheats (which we will sure never allow) it would be your choise... so this cant be a reason to change a rule.

In times of helikilling/drivebying/switching/ /stop abuse  ... it does not make real sense to disallow c-bug.

@honda, I would love if we could disable switching and cbug. I already played when lw`s was know as server where bugs are not allowed. And I loved the gameplay, it was a lil more tactical, and players didnt need to train any bug... I think it feels better without and its even easier for new player. +who is interessted in training any bug/technique to have an advantage in a game? Samp is difficult enough for new players. I do not think learning to bug abuse will get more players. I like skillz like aiming driving, running,... but things you usually dont learn from singleplayer...
But the times changed we allowed switching, and as I said when we allowed, it doesnt make sense to allow switching but not allowing cbug...
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: BiG_Sm0k3 on February 08, 2010, 12:50:11 AM
Yes from me, it would be great to use c bug, because there would be more ways to play.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Thug on February 08, 2010, 01:06:26 AM
Yes!

So I can't get banned anymore! (Example: 6 Months ban for cbug!)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: iMJets on February 08, 2010, 02:24:41 AM
i voted yes as long as the pricks dont come in to flame others from other servers that are annoying  ::) i enjoy cbug but i dont rlly like flamers..
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Slice on February 08, 2010, 03:39:31 AM
Yes!

So I can't get banned anymore! (Example: 6 Months ban for cbug!)
longest 6 months of ur life bro lol
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Thug on February 08, 2010, 11:10:35 AM
Yes!

So I can't get banned anymore! (Example: 6 Months ban for cbug!)
longest 6 months of ur life bro lol

lol, ye it kinda was.. I used to be very active on LW those days..
After I got banned I started playing on LVP..
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (UvH.P)ST3V3N on February 08, 2010, 11:42:34 AM
Yes!

So I can't get banned anymore! (Example: 6 Months ban for cbug!)
longest 6 months of ur life bro lol

See if c0bug would of been allowed we owuld of had probably more regulars lol

lol, ye it kinda was.. I used to be very active on LW those days..
After I got banned I started playing on LVP..
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 08, 2010, 12:30:27 PM
Also it may be hard for some people to believe, but when people are used to cbugging, it sometimes happens by accident.

Allowing switching and allowing cbug, again as in the 2shot case, are very different things.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 08, 2010, 02:19:28 PM
I vote no for cbug cuz there will be more and more flamers,no cuz i dont know iti know using this shit
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]ACE on February 08, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
I voted no - C-bug probably wont add any more players to the sever (imo). Most cbuggers also do all other sa-mp 'bugs' and therefore play on other servers. Allowing C-bug may raise the player count a lil but players will leave if C-bug is introduced. Unfortunatly it like a double edgded sword
Allow it = gian and loss.
Dont allow it = no loss and no gain

I already played when lw`s was know as server where bugs are not allowed. And I loved the gameplay, it was a lil more tactical, and players didnt need to train any bug... I think it feels better without and its even easier for new player.

I remember the old days with fire extinguishers aswell. Sigh i miss the no c-bug/switching. I played on a server with no cbug/switching/etc and forgot how fun it was and how th efights lasted longer and were better (imo).
Also remember that non one took my sheep back then, esp V3 - damn Sheep Stealer!

Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 08, 2010, 02:59:14 PM
majority agreed to make it legal, so maybe Management will make it official?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]Tw1sT3r on February 08, 2010, 03:54:24 PM
who voted no? im gonna rape his mum.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Disco on February 08, 2010, 03:58:33 PM
How many topics was existing like this ? and all where denied .
and now one admin suggest and it get accepted ? ..

in my eyes you should have accepted it then before.
Or u just all accept cause u dont want to denie a suggest of an admin ?

I rly dont care about cbug or not cause evenw ith cbug i think lw`s will never be a ww server cause even with cbug rw still kill them.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Fuse on February 08, 2010, 04:43:21 PM
NO.
Less bugs = better gameplay
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]ACE on February 08, 2010, 05:31:23 PM
who voted no?

I voted no
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on February 08, 2010, 05:34:35 PM
who voted no?

I voted no
i voted no.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 08, 2010, 05:44:40 PM
How many topics was existing like this ? and all where denied .
and now one admin suggest and it get accepted ? ..

in my eyes you should have accepted it then before.
Or u just all accept cause u dont want to denie a suggest of an admin ?

I rly dont care about cbug or not cause evenw ith cbug i think lw`s will never be a ww server cause even with cbug rw still kill them.
What?

If a player made a poll like this I'd vote yes and so would alot of other people. Afaik, people in general don't give a shit if an admin has a suggestion, they care about the suggestion. So I highly doubt 42 people up until now have voted yes just to 'make me happy'; honestly this is the most retarded thing I've read in the whole topic.

Allowing cbug wont make it a ww server, who said that? This server is rw and ww, hence rw prevails and always will..
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 08, 2010, 05:52:05 PM
When we just had 4shot no switch il was easier for newbs with deagle's beating them, but since switch got allowed its not fun more for ppl with deagle ALLOWED c-bug and it will be a more epic battle! the server needs this.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 08, 2010, 06:39:57 PM
who voted no?

I voted no
i voted no.
I voted no.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on February 08, 2010, 06:49:13 PM
Im looking for good arguments to NOT allow c bug and I cant find any good in this topic.
"It's a bug, we shouldn't eploit bugs" This game is full of bugs. For me cbug, double shot, switching - theyre all just ways of fight. I know, Im just calling them nicely, but I don't see them to be more a bug than dbing. Both are just increasing the shooting speed :P
"It's not realistic" Shit, I dunno why Im even commenting this. Have u ever seen a realistic movie in which people are running in a circle with uzis, instead of camping behind a wall or something? I don't think so. RW wars in samp are not realistic, lets make WW unrealistic too then.
"It has been denied loads of time" Yeah, but situation is changing all the time. It was denied when there was 80+ ppl every evening and 120+ every saturday. Now it's 30-50 every evening and 50-80 every saturday. We need to do what we can to attract new players.
"Less bugs = better gameplay" I don't understand this one.

I think that c bug is needed for balance between rw and ww.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V3loc1Ty] on February 08, 2010, 07:03:02 PM
who voted no?

I voted no
i voted no.
I voted no.
I voted no.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 08, 2010, 07:14:08 PM
Not-allowing cbug is indeed lowering playercounts, for example  I dont play at LW anymore cos i get banned for cbug too fast. Just my last ban by Rizla, i joined the server, shot 2-3 random cbug bullets cos it was just a reflex (cos im that used to it and forgot about the LW rule) and got an instant ban like 10 secs after i joined. Gay.

But w/e some people here dont get that cbug is more a defense thing and not something to attack with. It basically helps you in a fight vs RW players cos you can move faster after firing a bullet.

Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: iMJets on February 08, 2010, 08:00:43 PM
actually i decided to change my vote to no because i learned with cbug comers way to much flame and i dont like it so nvm changed my vote to no
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]ACE on February 08, 2010, 08:47:00 PM
When we just had 4shot no switch il was easier for newbs with deagle's beating them, but since switch got allowed its not fun more for ppl with deagle ALLOWED c-bug and it will be a more epic battle! the server needs this.


Newbs with a deagle still wont know how to c-bug so by allowing it, it will not help new players. It will only help players who know how to use the bug and most newbs/new players do not know how to c-bug.

Off topic a bit:
I voted no.

Thats how close me and V3 are - we vote the same now :D HE IS MINE! :D
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 08, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
Newbs with a deagle still wont know how to c-bug so by allowing it, it will not help new players. It will only help players who know how to use the bug and most newbs/new players do not know how to c-bug.
Lots of people join LW's and never joined before but have been on other servers where they're used to cbugging.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Bloodst3r on February 08, 2010, 09:31:13 PM
I vote no for cbug cuz there will be more and more flamers,no cuz i dont know iti know using this shit

Kind of makes no sense...C-bug attracts flamers or wot ?D:

Edit:

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I voted no - C-bug probably wont add any more players to the sever (imo).

@ACE, I guess it does add more players, I mean imagine what will happen if GTA:T and SFR disallowed C-bug, noone would play on it then, so I think that it will attracts a LOT of more players.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]Tw1sT3r on February 08, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
who voted no?

I voted no
i voted no.
I voted no.
I voted no.
then you all know whats happening to your mum.   :P

Anyway, tell me guys when it gets accepted, because "yes" is owning.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 08, 2010, 09:49:22 PM
This could also attract ''bigger'' and more ''serious'' clans who actually play both (rw and ww) on a high level.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 08, 2010, 11:08:00 PM
This could also attract ''bigger'' and more ''serious'' clans who actually play both (rw and ww) on a high level.

ding ding ding. Winnar.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Faraday on February 08, 2010, 11:19:11 PM
I support the "allow cbug"-movement, but I don't think 40 people voting yes, is going to suffice to actually get the rule changed. 40 people aren't enough to represent the LW community, imo. More people should vote, so it can be taken into serious consideration and further discussing. And maybe actually get this show on the road..
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [NAB]DarkZomb on February 08, 2010, 11:20:08 PM
I don't know how to C-Bug so:

"I don't give 2 shits"

:)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Me[T]aL_ on February 08, 2010, 11:24:07 PM
8.cake
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
with your dam good skills to get people to say yes
EDIT:how to cbug?
U LAVE UNDER A ROCK
1.hold aim
2.shoot and quickly press the c key
there 2 steps now go and get banned!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: iLz.tHO on February 09, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
OOOHHH YES!!! 
I voted +1 of course ! ;)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on February 09, 2010, 03:19:35 PM
Just my last ban by Rizla, i joined the server, shot 2-3 random cbug bullets cos it was just a reflex (cos im that used to it and forgot about the LW rule) and got an instant ban like 10 secs after i joined. Gay.

stick to facts please, if possible.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 09, 2010, 03:33:55 PM
Just my last ban by Rizla, i joined the server, shot 2-3 random cbug bullets cos it was just a reflex (cos im that used to it and forgot about the LW rule) and got an instant ban like 10 secs after i joined. Gay.

stick to facts please, if possible.

Its a fact :)

Joined, spawned, walked for about 3 seconds then some dude on a police bike (if i remember it right) was driving along, shot 1-2 bullets at him, then he got off his bike started shooting at me, i shot another 1-2 bullets and then i got banned. All in all my ingame time was between 5-20 seconds
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on February 09, 2010, 04:17:18 PM
Just my last ban by Rizla, i joined the server, shot 2-3 random cbug bullets cos it was just a reflex (cos im that used to it and forgot about the LW rule) and got an instant ban like 10 secs after i joined. Gay.

stick to facts please, if possible.

Its a fact :)

Joined, spawned, walked for about 3 seconds then some dude on a police bike (if i remember it right) was driving along, shot 1-2 bullets at him, then he got off his bike started shooting at me, i shot another 1-2 bullets and then i got banned. All in all my ingame time was between 5-20 seconds

ok well .... since i have some spare time i'll prove my point. (btw surely u must have saw our textdraw full of rules when u joined)

(16:17:05) ‹+ILickTurtles› [27] *** (UvH)Hitman has joined the game.
(16:17:57) ‹+ILickTurtles› *** Suspected cbug: (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27)
(16:28:16) ‹+IHateTurtles› *** Suspected cbug: (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27)
(16:28:17) ‹+ILoveTurtles› *** Suspected cbug: (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27)
(16:28:22) ‹+ILickTurtles› *** Suspected cbug: (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27)
(16:28:25) ‹+ILoveTurtles› *** Suspected cbug: (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27)
(16:28:29) ‹+IKillTurtles› * ItsRizlaBitch (ID: 38) has brought (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27) to themself.
(16:28:32) ‹+ILoveTurtles› * ItsRizlaBitch (ID: 38) has brought (UvH)Hitman (ID: 27) to themself.
(16:28:33) ‹+IHateTurtles› [27] (UvH)Hitman: wut
(16:28:38) ‹+ILickTurtles› [27] (UvH)Hitman: what about gtfo admin
(16:28:40) ‹+ILoveTurtles› [38] ItsRizlaBitch: hitman
(16:28:44) ‹+ILickTurtles› [38] ItsRizlaBitch: no cbug
(16:28:46) ‹+ILikeTurtles› [27] (UvH)Hitman: dude
(16:28:49) ‹+IHateTurtles› [38] ItsRizlaBitch: kthx
(16:28:49) ‹+ILickTurtles› [27] (UvH)Hitman: i aimed at a fucking wall
(16:28:53) ‹+IKillTurtles› [27] (UvH)Hitman: not a guy
(16:28:54) ‹+ILoveTurtles› [38] ItsRizlaBitch: i dont care
(16:28:55) ‹+ILikeTurtles› [12] (UvH)Zetch.12: "no cbug" faggits
(16:29:00) ‹+ILoveTurtles› [38] ItsRizlaBitch: no cbug


All in all my ingame time was between 5-20 seconds

 8)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 09, 2010, 06:11:34 PM
err Rizla that ban was like months ago

im talking about the one i got on 24-27th jan (not sure about the date or so)

dont even know what admin banned me but it was said to me that it was you

edit: http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html)


PS:  8)


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Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on February 09, 2010, 06:29:13 PM
ive posted logs of your last ban by me.

http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html)
no idea what this is, when it was, what it was for or who done it

no one said i banned u on that date
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 09, 2010, 07:56:45 PM
ive posted logs of your last ban by me.

http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,12259.0.html)
no idea what this is, when it was, what it was for or who done it

no one said i banned u on that date

Well i was told that you banned me and also your name got edited in my topic title (i said unknown admin/dunno).
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]ACE on February 09, 2010, 08:45:22 PM
D: KEEP ON TOPIC OR ALK ABOUT SHEEP - either way idk :D

Down with C-BUG! Up with SHEEP! :D
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: (Bandic) on February 10, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
look how much posts in 3 days lol
if you ask me allow cbug
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 10, 2010, 06:18:51 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 10, 2010, 06:32:49 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)

Alvar for president!!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 10, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
Seriously, why should we deny this suggestion:
1. ''Noobs dont know how to c-bug''
Noobs also dont know how to switch
2. ''Cbug is an exploit in the game and it shouldnt be abused''
So is switching
3. ''Many noobs switch without knowing''
Yeah sure, i dont see my 14-yr old nephew switching


Give me a reason, and ill give you a reason why you are wrong.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 10, 2010, 07:54:21 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Daniel. on February 10, 2010, 07:59:32 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...

aah the most flamers in bod are also hackers so dont mind.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 10, 2010, 08:06:39 PM
There's flamers already without cbug.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]Tw1sT3r on February 10, 2010, 08:07:40 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...
your gay way to play getting killing sprees makes them rage.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 10, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...
excessive flaming gets you bant anyways, so where is the problem?
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: TypeR on February 10, 2010, 08:15:42 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...
excessive flaming gets you bant anyways, so where is the problem?
Ah, allright...twister <3
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: UvH Clan on February 10, 2010, 08:24:46 PM
cbug won't get bring in more flamers and so on. cbug is just awesome and i am sure people will get used to it and it will attract new clans into lw. :)
are u sure for flamers? try play with BoD's on sfr...

Why would cbug get more flamers? Thats like saying allowing the dildo as gun will bring in more females to the server. Bullshit
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Dominator on February 10, 2010, 09:39:17 PM

 allowing the dildo as gun will bring in more females to the server.
Gentlemen, I guess we have a new mission to accomplish.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [V]ACE on February 11, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
I still can not see c-bug bringing in more players. Clans generally stick to the servers they know, new players will not be atttracted by c-bug (cus they probably dont know how to use it).
I also think allowing c-bug will also cause players to leave so whilst we may get a few new players 'older' players will leave so it wont make a diffrence.

Just my view, now i agree with dom,
 
allowing the dildo as gun will bring in more females to the server.
Gentlemen, I guess we have a new mission to accomplish.
]
We must make the dildo gun and try to bring in new female players in this way!!
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: SUPERBAD on February 11, 2010, 06:55:52 PM
[...] Thats like saying allowing the dildo as gun will bring in more females to the server. Bullshit
It`s worth a try, would like to see more females rapping boys on lw`s.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 12, 2010, 07:33:09 PM
I'm locking the vote for now, since this will be further discussed within the staff, thank you all for the interesting points of view and all the people who voted.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alex0 on February 15, 2010, 06:27:23 PM
Yeah, thanks for that :)
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alfguy[ASB] on February 21, 2010, 11:03:44 AM
cbug shouldnt be allow its just more confusion, admins would mistake it for hacks and all that
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alvar on February 21, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
cbug shouldnt be allow its just more confusion, admins would mistake it for hacks and all that
Not possible to mistake it as a hack
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 21, 2010, 11:31:56 AM
lol alfguy, you being banned for minigun hacks had nothing to do with cbug, so gg
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Alex0 on February 27, 2010, 07:30:46 PM
lol alfguy, you being banned for minigun hacks had nothing to do with cbug, so gg

ROFL
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Chungabunga on February 27, 2010, 07:49:23 PM
So many reasons.. lots of the ww'ers would be free.

1 - Would place another level of balance between ww and rw, and now with 4shot allowed, it's even more needed imo
2 - WW Clans use cbug, more clans is more fun
3 - Gives admins a break
4 - Players like it
5 - Doesn't make a difference for a nub to be killed by cbug or by sawn/tec. Actually they put up more of a fight against a cbugger
6 - No obligation to use it.. it's your choice
7 - In need of players
8 - Cake

Btw, I'm posting this as a player, not in the name of the admin team. It's something that occured to me and alot of other players but it's not anything that's been recently discussed within the staff.

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4 - Players like it

I do not like it
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on February 27, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
Have you really noticed a difference?? Omg 80% of the server still use RW (maybe sometimes they make a duel with cbug, thats all), I think this disscusion is useless.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: AJP on February 27, 2010, 09:21:20 PM
It's better with cbug, people who like ww can use it, and the ones who like rw aren't affected in the least.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Simon on March 27, 2010, 02:01:39 AM
Seeing as c-bug is now allowed, this topic is now unpinned.
Title: Re: Cbug
Post by: Quickplay on March 28, 2010, 06:46:49 PM
very cool, i was waiting for this since a lot  :)