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Recycle Bin => Suggestions (2008-2011) => SA-MP Archive (2015) => SA-MP Archive => Recycle Bin => Rejected Suggestions => Topic started by: BikeDriver on July 02, 2010, 02:12:30 PM
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simple as this: LOCK all rustlers when a race is STARTING. EJECT all guys who currently sit in a rustler. give them a warning like "In XX second you will be ejected because a race is starting then!!"
advantages:
- all round sa will be enjoyable again. no rustlers to fear.
- no more rage/q because of rustler fags.
- no virtual worlds needed.
- blocking still possible.
- guys with bounty or big monies will still be huntable even if they race (not possible with virtual worlds)
- rustlers dont have to be removed completly.
- all planes besides rustlers can still be used to crash into racers or block a road etc. etc.
dissadvantages:
- 3 crying faggots.
- very rare: guys who had no intention to attack the racers wont be able to use rustlers while a race is ongoing.
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I don´t mind about 90% of races when im online, but good luck with this sugestion! ;D
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Voted yes, would bring back one of the original features of LW's.
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From all offered solutions this one seems to be the best, Ive been thinking about suggesting something like this.
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From all offered solutions this one seems to be the best, Ive been thinking about suggesting something like this.
Ohh no Miczi, I didn't expect something like this from you... :(
THE BEST SOLUTION IS DOMINATOR'S ONE: http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,13311.0.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,13311.0.html)
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no his solution isnt the best because most of the rustler fags do not give a fuck about air races or other shit. they just want to make people mad. even you know that gryphus.
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no his solution isnt the best because most of the rustler fags do not give a fuck about air races or other shit. they just want to make people mad. even you know that gryphus.
Yeah? then explain me why the hell I'm supporting Dominator's idea, which suggest car races in virtual worlds and therefore we the Rustler pilots wouldn't be able to interfere them...
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because you are one of a few rustler childs. you cant speak for everybody.
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because you are one of a few rustler childs. you cant speak for everybody.
So? if my real fun were to drive people mad (as you say), then I wouldn't be supporting Dominator's suggestion because it wouldn't allow me to interfere the ground races.
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you still dont get that you may be the only one who things that way? you are only one of the LW rustler tards. everybody else just ruins races because its the only possiblilty to get other players attention.
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dude, im a ´Member of R and i can tell u that we rarely fuck races because we as a team want to do things together and most of the members of the R-team arent good enough to kill races .
Qwer often lets noobs win and just kills the pros, now you want to reach that rustlers should be "removed" from the server... it´s kind of a remove if you lock planes..
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dude, im a ´Member of R and i can tell u that we rarely fuck races because we as a team want to do things together and most of the members of the R-team arent good enough to kill races .
Qwer often lets noobs win and just kills the pros, now you want to reach that rustlers should be "removed" from the server... it´s kind of a remove if you lock planes..
its just during a race u aint gonna die ::)
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This suggestion just sucks. If they really go for races without any people that shoot sometimes, they just disallow it, thats it.
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This has been discussed many times..
It's Still a DM server not some RP where u can't do anything and can't have fun...
why you Cry... Cuz u can't Do your Extreme Fast Lap times on All Around Sa again ?... Dat's just not our prob..
its more fun trying to evade rustler in race than just Driving for 20 minutes and hoping not to have any roadblock..
If Rustlers ARE going to be banned in races.. Then ROADBLOCK Will Do The SAME! It's just friggin unfair...
And BTW roadblocks are even worse than rustlers...
Everyone can set up a roadblock,but there is just a few who can actually fly rustler and kill da friggin racers...
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This has been discussed many times..
It's Still a DM server not some RP where u can't do anything and can't have fun...
why you Cry... Cuz u can't Do your Extreme Fast Lap times on All Around Sa again ?... Dat's just not our prob..
its more fun trying to evade rustler in race than just Driving for 20 minutes and hoping not to have any roadblock..
If Rustlers ARE going to be banned in races.. Then ROADBLOCK Will Do The SAME! It's just friggin unfair...
And BTW roadblocks are even worse than rustlers...
Everyone can set up a roadblock,but there is just a few who can actually fly rustler and kill da friggin racers...
Nothing but the truth... 8)
You rock Forrest!
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It's just the other way: if LW cared about us (the Rustler pilots), we wouldn't need to do this in races.
why should we care about you??
Because EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE FUN. Well, maybe role players wouldn't fit in LW, but we surely would.
u got rustlers dont you what else do you want world domination???
That doesn't make any sense at all. There are more Rustlers around since y'all joined, so you can't say that "we" don't care about "you, the Rustler pilots".
Ohh no, this shit again...
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It clearly seems that some people haven't read my demands for Rustler challenges (air races, stunt checkpoints, air combats etc.) yet...
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This has been discussed many times..
It's Still a DM server not some RP where u can't do anything and can't have fun...
why you Cry... Cuz u can't Do your Extreme Fast Lap times on All Around Sa again ?... Dat's just not our prob..
its more fun trying to evade rustler in race than just Driving for 20 minutes and hoping not to have any roadblock..
If Rustlers ARE going to be banned in races.. Then ROADBLOCK Will Do The SAME! It's just friggin unfair...
And BTW roadblocks are even worse than rustlers...
Everyone can set up a roadblock,but there is just a few who can actually fly rustler and kill da friggin racers...
face palm
Road blocks are avoidable, rustlers are not in long distance races
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Why not host drive some shorter races then, or team with people on your roof that hold an M4 and defend your car?
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It's just the other way: if LW cared about us (the Rustler pilots), we wouldn't need to do this in races.
why should we care about you??
Because EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE FUN. Well, maybe role players wouldn't fit in LW, but we surely would.
u got rustlers dont you what else do you want world domination???
That doesn't make any sense at all. There are more Rustlers around since y'all joined, so you can't say that "we" don't care about "you, the Rustler pilots".
Ohh no, this shit again...
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It clearly seems that some people haven't read my demands for Rustler challenges (air races, stunt checkpoints, air combats etc.) yet...
You should finally get, that "you, the Rustler pilots" aren't the only people on the server, it's not all focused on you, mainly even against you.
Live with your suggestion being rejected, you got to.
Just my 2 cents.
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You should finally get, that "you, the Rustler pilots" aren't the only people on the server, it's not all focused on you
Well the thing is not us not being the only people on the server and it all not being focused on us, the problem is that we are being treated as if we were nobody, DISCRIMINATED and even blamed for the low number of players in the server.
mainly even against you.
Yeah, you show it very clearly: things get against us, only for the mere fact of DEFENDING OUR RIGHTS, exactly like dictatorships do...
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Guys, calm down please!!! ???
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This is not pleasant but is not bad ... and frankly annoys me about my coming to join Nubia and shoot rulsteru drift in the air .. I say just do something to race like you can not just shoot him in the race that
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This suggestion is alot simpler but will completely eliminate all race shooting, and im sure rustler kids will have a problem with it.
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Voted Yes remove all rulstler
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I voted Yes aswell. But no matter how many people vote yes, there will probably be nothing changed.
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Voted Yes remove all rulstler
So... Now, after splatter threat you a ban because you pause-abuse in rustler fights against me, you want them to remove all rustlers? ;D ;D ;D
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So... Now, after splatter threat you a ban because you pause-abuse in rustler fights against me, you want them to remove all rustlers? ;D ;D ;D
what does this have to do with my suggestion? besides that he got a kick, not a ban.
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So... Now, after splatter threat you a ban because you pause-abuse in rustler fights against me, you want them to remove all rustlers? ;D ;D ;D
what does this have to do with my suggestion? besides that he got a kick, not a ban.
That is my reply to what he thinks? What did your pointless posts have to do with the other topic, which is closed now, about 1 single race ? I said he has threatend him a ban, didn't I? Different admins told me, his next pause in a rustler fight or in a race to avoid getting hits means ban.. That's why he posted :)
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i dont spam. besides that the topic you mentioned is locked only because of you. because you are too stupid to use a forum and argue with other people.
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i dont spam. besides that the topic you mentioned is locked only because of you. because you are too stupid to use a forum and argue with other people.
I have never argued with anybody in any topic on these forums. And at least i can use the quote button. ;)
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well , i've voted yes .. are u sure there is no other ways to ruin the race? i dont think so
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afaik there is no other way to totally ruin a race.
even if there is a block you always stay a chance for a win - there is always more than 1 way to the next checkpoint and you always see it on your radar when a block has been set up. if you are not some retard you should be able to avoid a block easily (if you pay attention to the radar/map).
thats not possible if there are rustlers. you can spend as much attention as you want, besides staying in a tunnel or driving SUPER slow (-> you lose anyway, no matter if your car is fucked) there is nothing you can do. with rustlers its possible to focus on one single player who you dislike. and most of the fags do so - they focus on the guy who killed them before or on the guy who is avoiding there shots. they usually dont attack another player say just focus on you to show you that your helpless and all your skills are meaningless.
with blocks for example its completly different. everybody gets blocked. everybody has problems so all of the racers get slowed down. there is no problem at all. like this you can show your driving skills the best. show the bastards that no block can stop you.
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Gryphus you say that you didn't expect this from me, but did you expect that I will accept Dom's suggestion?? I've always been against virtual worlds, recently I've started even thinking that it was better without the duel arena when you had to fight at V-Rock and everyone could fuck it up in any time... But nvm, maybe duel arena attracts more ppl.
And I'm also one of the few ppl who DON'T see rustlers to be the biggest problem of the server (maybe because I don't race too much). But I can imagine how annoying it can be to newbie to be destroyed by a rustler when he was going to win a race... I think that it's the best solution. It doesn't use virtual world, there is no rules that you can be banned for breaking and the rustlers are not fully removed.
However maybe there should be an option to start race without locking rustlers? Also if the R team don't want such suggestions to be accepted maybe they should make a declaration on the forum, that they will not destroy races?? But nah, I don't think that it would help, R are not the only one doing it.
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But I can imagine how annoying it can be to newbie to be destroyed by a rustler when he was going to win a race...
No newbies can win a race: they will crash until their cars explode, even with no Rustlers nor roadblocks...
Also if the R team don't want such suggestions to be accepted maybe they should make a declaration on the forum, that they will not destroy races?? But nah, I don't think that it would help, R are not the only one doing it.
I will make such declaration, the day they implement Rustler challenges, with their stats and/or any kind of reward or competition.
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It`s the worst suggestion which was ever posted here! And it´s not a solution for anything.
I spend 95% of my time on server with stunts, flying around or kill other helis and planes. Now if there is a race, noone else could join a new rustler, including me. And that just sucks. It would be the same like "close all helis if there is a dm-event, because they could come and kill us all"...
Let it like it is right now, or make special new areas next to the all around SA lap, where racers can fix their cars.
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Let it like it is right now, or make special new areas next to the all around SA lap, where racers can fix their cars.
Yeah that's a good idea: they can still be attacked by Rustlers, but they can fix their cars more often.
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Also if the R team don't want such suggestions to be accepted maybe they should make a declaration on the forum, that they will not destroy races?? But nah, I don't think that it would help, R are not the only one doing it.
I will make such declaration, the day they implement Rustler challenges, with their stats and/or any kind of reward or competition.
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We won't make any declaration, even if there are air races and air events! As a gang we fucked like 2 races since we excist together. And I also blow races very rarely, because stunting and that stuff is mostly more fun. If the races would be hosted more often, nobody would complain about rustlers, because these few pilots that could fuck races aren't doing it very often. This wave of new topics about "the bad, undestroyable and unfair rustlers" was the result of one long topic by Scott. An I guess he was very frustrated at that time because he made the topic shortly after I killed his car. And helped SRC and that other noob to win.
You should watch this ;)
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Qwerbeet_rulstler vs Scott (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmJKmegLM2Q#)
It's Scott trying to start with a rustler yesterday.. ;D
My revenge, because he attacked me before when I was recording my new stunt video. I had turned chat and kill list off so i couldn't see him.. :)
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Qwerbeet, their next suggestion will be that racers have miniguns, spawnable Hydras and Hunters, and infinite vehicle health...
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But I can imagine how annoying it can be to newbie to be destroyed by a rustler when he was going to win a race...
No newbies can win a race: they will crash until their cars explode, even with no Rustlers nor roadblocks...
Im not talking only about the ppl who are new to samp. Im talking also about ppl who entered LW, as it's advertised as a race server, and joined the race, cause they thought they are skilled enough to win some cash to start with. These ppl wouldn't crash and probably would deal with road blockers etc. But I don't think that they can deal with rustlers (I don't think anyone can deal with them alone while racing).
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Qwerbeet, their next suggestion will be that racers have miniguns, spawnable Hydras and Hunters, and infinite vehicle health...
YES IZ GUD IDAE GIV MNIIGUN SO WI CEN SHUUT RUTSLERZ OKE??????????????????????????????
Seriously.
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It's Scott trying to start with a rustler yesterday.. ;D
My revenge, because he attacked me before when I was recording my new stunt video. I had turned chat and kill list off so i couldn't see him.. :)
did you fraps the part where you quit once I spawned where you did? :')
didn't think so.
You honestly think I care if you can pilot a rustler better than me? I can destroy you in any other fucking aspect of the game, lets have a dog fight with helis shall we? Didn't take you for one of those people who fraps their victories to make themselves look all pro.
You seriously act like you're the best rustler pilot who ever logged on sa:mp, but redshirt or bot7 could beat you without even trying. And the old rustler players weren't even annoying, RedShirt would always destroy the tank and occasionally stalk a racer, and bot7 simply never talked. Neither of them spammed the forums with useless suggestions, and if for example RedShirt had, they would've at least made sense because: he knows and understands how to play the game.
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And where are those redshirt and bot7 now??
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Also if the R team don't want such suggestions to be accepted maybe they should make a declaration on the forum, that they will not destroy races?? But nah, I don't think that it would help, R are not the only one doing it.
I will make such declaration, the day they implement Rustler challenges, with their stats and/or any kind of reward or competition.
We won't make any declaration, even if there are air races and air events! As a gang we fucked like 2 races since we excist together. And I also blow races very rarely, because stunting and that stuff is mostly more fun. If the races would be hosted more often, nobody would complain about rustlers, because these few pilots that could fuck races aren't doing it very often. This wave of new topics about "the bad, undestroyable and unfair rustlers" was the result of one long topic by Scott. An I guess he was very frustrated at that time because he made the topic shortly after I killed his car. And helped SRC and that other noob to win.
You should watch this ;)
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Qwerbeet_rulstler vs Scott (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmJKmegLM2Q#)
It's Scott trying to start with a rustler yesterday.. ;D
My revenge, because he attacked me before when I was recording my new stunt video. I had turned chat and kill list off so i couldn't see him.. :)
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1) I voted no suggestion in this shit
2)I do not put me on your shit
3)I did not put me to help someone to race to win or else, alone you offered and I think I rewarded each time, so let alone what is not
Encoded mean I voted none of those questions asked Bikedriver
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This is good idea, accepted!!!
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You all rustler tards, you should meet Bot7 ingame and dogfight him. U would fall down after freakin 10 seconds and cry.
Oh and btw, not any retard like you should mention his name.
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Dugi could remove all of the rustlers from the little whiteys server script and everyone would be laughing with the exception of 2 or 3 nerds sitting here crying.
Please, rustlers are so insignificant compared to races.
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Somebody had a lot of effort to give Scott a lot -1? :D He had like 80 respect yesterday when I last was online. :D
Anyways, rustlers suck balls
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Somebody had a lot of effort to give Scott a lot -1? :D He had like 80 respect yesterday when I last was online. :D
Anyways, rustlers suck balls
yea that was the raging gryphus.
1) I voted no suggestion in this shit
2)I do not put me on your shit
3)I did not put me to help someone to race to win or else, alone you offered and I think I rewarded each time, so let alone what is not
Encoded mean I voted none of those questions asked Bikedriver
i dont understand 1 word.
You all rustler tards, you should meet Bot7 ingame and dogfight him. U would fall down after freakin 10 seconds and cry.
Oh and btw, not any retard like you should mention his name.
+1.
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yea alvar, someone went through all my old topics, but now I voted bikedriver cause of how he agrees with me and they wanted him in - respect :]]]]]]]]]++
I could care less about respect on the forums anyway, as long as the suggestions get accepted (can't say the same for gryphus & qweerbag now can we)
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Seems like the respect system was now completely taken away, was a bit useless thingy anyways. :P Maybe prevented a few "+1" "-1" posts
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Yall rustlers haters go /cry plz
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[R] = retards! Should that happen much! Before cars were racing all day! Players invest money to win new players on the server! Now no one invests money in races for a team there ([R] = retards) that destroys everything and no one can win anything!
That money is lost and players are becoming more starved for money!Because of these new players lost money can not buy any property! Always an experienced player possesses all the properties and do not let anyone to touch them!
That player who made the race and lost money must somehow recover their loss and that option is out of buying property? In addition to this players are very interested now kill more people for that Kill Spree! They kill new players on the server for proper that are easy to beat!
If you watched all my story [r] = retards production server change for the worse! If there racing players focus more on killing! If you kill more experienced players new players have no way to go unnoticed and develop! Races are not just to earn money but to learn to drive a car or a motorcycle!Hence the inactivity of the players new server! No server runs lead to monetary gaps among all players plus beating on those properties!
Moreover I noticed that this team ([R] = retards), they started shooting after players who are trying to export cars!
I agree that those planes will be blocked and no longer can use their own weapons!Please do not be removed from the game for part of it and not to destroy something beautiful! Just block weapons possessed!
I hope now [R] = retards be met only with air planes acrobatics!
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[R] = retards! Should that happen much! Before cars were racing all day! Players invest money to win new players on the server! Now no one invests money in races for a team there ([R] = retards) that destroys everything and no one can win anything!
That money is lost and players are becoming more starved for money!Because of these new players lost money can not buy any property! Always an experienced player possesses all the properties and do not let anyone to touch them!
That player who made the race and lost money must somehow recover their loss and that option is out of buying property? In addition to this players are very interested now kill more people for that Kill Spree! They kill new players on the server for proper that are easy to beat!
If you watched all my story [r] = retards production server change for the worse! If there racing players focus more on killing! If you kill more experienced players new players have no way to go unnoticed and develop! Races are not just to earn money but to learn to drive a car or a motorcycle!Hence the inactivity of the players new server! No server runs lead to monetary gaps among all players plus beating on those properties!
Moreover I noticed that this team ([R] = retards), they started shooting after players who are trying to export cars!
I agree that those planes will be blocked and no longer can use their own weapons!Please do not be removed from the game for part of it and not to destroy something beautiful! Just block weapons possessed!
I hope now [R] = retards be met only with air planes acrobatics!
you keep talking bad about them when your no better
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Seems like the respect system was now completely taken away, was a bit useless thingy anyways. :P Maybe prevented a few "+1" "-1" posts
It's removed, but at least I had time to overtake Midnight in number of negative votes!! ;D ;D ;D If I ever wanted to pretend to be a victim, that would help me a lot...
Oh and that doesn't prevent +1 and -1 posts, because people don't vote messages depending on whether they agree with them or not, but depending on how much they like the person who posted them... ::)
Yall rustlers haters go /cry plz
YEEEAAAHHH!!!!!
And Leytone, don't say you hate Rustlers because also you have sometimes used them...
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And I use the Rustler, but use it to get somewhere quickly and stunt! I do not kill new players and even if you use DB use against experienced players! 8)
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Seems like the respect system was now completely taken away, was a bit useless thingy anyways. :P Maybe prevented a few "+1" "-1" posts
It's removed, but at least I had time to overtake Midnight in number of negative votes!! ;D ;D ;D If I ever wanted to pretend to be a victim, that would help me a lot...
Oh and that doesn't prevent +1 and -1 posts, because people don't vote messages depending on whether they agree with them or not, but depending on how much they like the person who posted them... ::)
Not really, actually my vote depended only on the post.
And yeah, most of the time leytone fought with regulars, never seen him hunting nabs, respect xD
There should be made a system that will make regulars fight regulars and gangs fight gangs, instead of banging nabs 4vs1.
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And yeah, most of the time leytone fought with regulars, never seen him hunting nabs, respect xD
this true, leytone may say a few things to annoy people, but if one thing he doesn't do is exclusively hunt noobs, he much rather would hunt regulars.
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people don't vote messages depending on whether they agree with them or not, but depending on how much they like the person who posted them... ::)
Not really, actually my vote depended only on the post.
Well maybe that's your particular case, but I was talking in general.
Ohh and I have never said that Leytone chases new players...
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Well Lamers how cheap thinking u have if rustlers are removed then remove heli too...........they are more lame as compared to rustler or leave both of them i m totally Disagree........these R Team play on Lw because of rustler if u want Lw to be empty then do all lame things...........And mixery u faggot did u play...? After every 6 months....? or ..? Dont Make such topics killing a player with a rustler is A Skill..........So dont give such suggestions.........
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Well Lamers how cheap thinking u have if rustlers are removed then remove heli too...........they are more lame as compared to rustler or leave both of them i m totally Disagree........these R Team play on Lw because of rustler if u want Lw to be empty then do all lame things...........And mixery u faggot did u play...? After every 6 months....? or ..? Dont Make such topics killing a player with a rustler is A Skill..........So dont give such suggestions.........
learn english. and use your brain bro.
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Well Lamers how cheap thinking u have if rustlers are removed then remove heli too...........they are more lame as compared to rustler or leave both of them i m totally Disagree........these R Team play on Lw because of rustler if u want Lw to be empty then do all lame things...........And mixery u faggot did u play...? After every 6 months....? or ..? Dont Make such topics killing a player with a rustler is A Skill..........So dont give such suggestions.........
learn english. and use your brain bro.
Use your balls...you wanna take away some challenge & fun by taking away rustler pilots during the races??
Your one of those people who cry, and cry, and cry, and even cry fucking more because your car gets destroyed by a rustler....during a race.
I think the other suggestion is better, where people can choose between a race in a different world, or just in the same as everybody else( where the action is!!)
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you wanna take away some challenge & fun by taking away rustler pilots during the races??
there is no challenge in getting your car destroyed in 5 seconds and you cant do anything against it.
im not taking the fun away, i try to bring it back. actually same goes for the challenge. you didnt really understand the facts.
btw did you EVER race roach? i just know you as some unbelievably lame noob. im glad to see that your completly useless without your brainless comprade masterbeef who isnt playing often any more.
and gryphus.. my ass might be smarter than your brain but im not getting owned ;)
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I think that the best would be the combination of both ideas. No virtual worlds, but race hoster can choose if he wants a safe race (rustlers locked) or a normal one.
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you wanna take away some challenge & fun by taking away rustler pilots during the races??
there is no challenge in getting your car destroyed in 5 seconds and you cant do anything against it.
im not taking the fun away, i try to bring it back. actually same goes for the challenge. you didnt really understand the facts.
btw did you EVER race roach? i just know you as some unbelievably lame noob. im glad to see that your completly useless without your brainless comprade masterbeef who isnt playing often any more.
and gryphus.. my ass might be smarter than your brain but im not getting owned ;)
Lol, dude..why don't you get yourself a girl and get laid or something....
Seems like you have some serious personal problems
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Lock Rustlers is the worst thing that can happen to us. As I already said, i spend 95% of my time on server with stunting or flying around with my gang and kill some helikillers. If some people are really that pissed from rustlers, they should just create this races in virtual worlds - like you said: racehost can choose. But I believe that it wouldn't change anythig. Races are hosted rarely on server, because there are few people online that drive it and you have to wait 13 minutes untill it starts. Rustlers aren't mainly responsible for these few racehosts. (Before crying about what i just wrote, please check my other posts here first.)
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you wanna take away some challenge & fun by taking away rustler pilots during the races??
there is no challenge in getting your car destroyed in 5 seconds and you cant do anything against it.
im not taking the fun away, i try to bring it back. actually same goes for the challenge. you didnt really understand the facts.
btw did you EVER race roach? i just know you as some unbelievably lame noob. im glad to see that your completly useless without your brainless comprade masterbeef who isnt playing often any more.
and gryphus.. my ass might be smarter than your brain but im not getting owned ;)
Lol, dude..why don't you get yourself a girl and get laid or something....
Seems like you have some serious personal problems
i guess thats your way to say "yes your right, you got me" :D
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Lol, dude..why don't you get yourself a girl and get laid or something....
Seems like you have some serious personal problems
BikeDriver doesn't have any problems , he's ok.And about rustlers , I like how it is now , if I don't want to be fucked up in a race I'll make a deal with the rustlers pilots.What's so hard ?
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He doesn't have any problems , he's ok.And about rustlers , I like how it is now , if I don't want to be fucked up in a race I'll make a deal with the rustlers pilots.What's so hard ?
cool then the rustler mens will take out everybody but you - and the race turns into some fucking road trip.
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cool then the rustler mens will take out everybody but you and the race turns into some fucking road trip.
Oh yea , you're right here but I don't have any problems with rustlers.
Last post on this thread.
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Nice biased poll. It doesn't matter which option I pick -- it feels like I entered the mind of a child.
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Nice biased poll. I still feel like I've entered the mind of a child, it doesn't matter which one I pick.
thats all you have to say to the suggestion? :X
and yes the poll might be affected because i hate rustler naps so hard. but its funny how nobody voted for 'im a rustler tard [...]' :D
well i fixed it. now say something about the suggestion.
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Nice biased poll. I still feel like I've entered the mind of a child, it doesn't matter which one I pick.
thats all you have to say to the suggestion? :X
and yes the poll might be affected because i hate rustler naps so hard. but its funny how nobody voted for 'im a rustler tard [...]' :D
There's been many interesting ideas brought up in regards to the rustler 'issue'... It's funny that the most effective/opposed solution (virtual worlds) is the easiest to implement.
From a technical standpoint, when comparing this to other suggestions, it would take longer to implement, would use a little extra memory and add more complications to the code (simpler code is better code -- easier to work with, faster usually.) The positive side to this implementation is that it's a start to fixing another bug in regards to vehicle locking, although I believe that was worked around in my scripting absence.
From a personal standpoint, I don't like the idea too much. It's a freeroam server at heart, I don't play on the server to be hardcore deathmatching (cause I'm a dirty stinkin' lagger!), I play to have fun. If I'm flying a rustler I don't want to be forced out of it, that'd just be frustrating.
This idea would punish the innocent, there are people who fly rustlers and would like nothing to do with your race. You can argue that not many people would be effected, but an innocent person is an innocent person. I'd lean toward solutions that have no adverse effect on anybody if possible. I understand the opposition towards this idea, it seems at the end of the day it's going to have to be a choice of the lesser of the 'evils' (server politics, damnit!)
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cool post gryphus.
yea hazard my idea might be complicated but i cant image another way with less restrictions for the rustlers + complete safety from rustlers for the racers.
if possible (but i doubt it) you can freeze the rustlers for 10 seconds whenever they are attacking a racers car.
i have no idea how far you can go with the samp coding.
the point is: the best solution is to just make it IMPOSSIBLE to attack a racer with a rustler. i dont care whether the rustlers get locked or frozen or whatever but im sure there is some way. you are the scripter you tell me whats possible.
is it possible to freeze rustlers that attack racers?
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cool post gryphus.
yea hazard my idea might be complicated but i cant image another way with less restrictions for the rustlers + complete safety from rustlers for the racers.
if possible (but i doubt it) you can freeze the rustlers for 10 seconds whenever they are attacking a racers car.
i have no idea how far you can go with the samp coding.
the point is: the best solution is to just make it IMPOSSIBLE to attack a racer with a rustler. i dont care whether the rustlers get locked or frozen or whatever but im sure there is some way. you are the scripter you tell me whats possible.
is it possible to freeze rustlers that attack racers?
It is not possible to detect bullet hits or who they came from accurately and efficiently. If only there was a way to limit the ammo in a rustler then would have done that as soon as the problem arose.
It is possible however to detect the keys pressed by a rustler player, if the rustler is streamed in, if the player is a racer and there is also an event for when a player streams in/out.. which I'm looking into as I believe the solution could lay there.
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Gryphus: Your post was inappropriate and has been moved to the bin.
cool post gryphus.
yea hazard my idea might be complicated but i cant image another way with less restrictions for the rustlers + complete safety from rustlers for the racers.
if possible (but i doubt it) you can freeze the rustlers for 10 seconds whenever they are attacking a racers car.
i have no idea how far you can go with the samp coding.
the point is: the best solution is to just make it IMPOSSIBLE to attack a racer with a rustler. i dont care whether the rustlers get locked or frozen or whatever but im sure there is some way. you are the scripter you tell me whats possible.
is it possible to freeze rustlers that attack racers?
It is not possible to detect bullet hits or who they came from accurately. If only there was a way to limit the ammo in a rustler then would have done that as soon as the problem arose.
It is possible however to detect the keys pressed by a rustler player, if the rustler is streamed in, if the player is a racer and there is also an event for when a player streams in/out.. which I'm looking into as I believe the solution could lay there.
doesnt sound too bad.
IF a race is ongoing (you already haz a variable or flag or something for this)
and IF a guy sits in a rustler and is shooting
he gets frozen for 3 seconds.
problem fixed.
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IF a race is ongoing (you already haz a variable or flag or something for this)
and IF a guy sits in a rustler and is shooting
he gets frozen for 3 seconds.
problem fixed.
And if he is shooting to a heli, to another plane or to anyone else that is not a racer?? ???
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IF a race is ongoing (you already haz a variable or flag or something for this)
and IF a guy sits in a rustler and is shooting
he gets frozen for 3 seconds.
problem fixed.
And if he is shooting to a heli, to another plane or to anyone else that is not a racer?? ???
then he will be frozen for 3 seconds. now stop crying.
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IF a race is ongoing (you already haz a variable or flag or something for this)
and IF a guy sits in a rustler and is shooting
he gets frozen for 3 seconds.
problem fixed.
And if he is shooting to a heli, to another plane or to anyone else that is not a racer?? ???
then he will be frozen for 3 seconds. now stop crying.
Was thinking more along the lines of...
OnFireKeyPressed:
LoopRacers {
If RacerIsStreamedForRustlerPilot() && RustlerPilotIsLookingInRacerDirection()
SlowDownRustler(); // Decrease relative X and Y velocity so they fall back from the racer.
OR
MakeRustlerFlyUpwards(); // Set Z velocity upwards..thus making the rustler not aim at the players on the ground AND not crash as a side effect.
}
Hopefully that's readable.
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well hazard.. awesome if that works but didnt you say earlier that you want a simple solution? :D
i think the thing i posted before is the simplest thing that is possible.
btw if you want to test it on test server you can write me PM.
also you changed the pitch of the plane or something. but is this necessary? i think they will just find it more funny if it gets harder. it should be made impossible (=freeze for few seconds) and not only harder. your way sounds like it will still be possible. but anyway... im ok with it if you find a good balance and make it really hard to even kill 1 racer.
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well hazard.. awesome if that works but didnt you say earlier that you want a simple solution? :D
It is quite a simple solution once the math is figured out. This kind of mathematical function is common on the internet and should be quite easy to whip up using basic trigonometry.. it could run in it's own script too. Tidily and away from all our other code. Not only that but I do not think this will effect rustler pilots if it only effects the pilots who are trying to shoot racers.
also you changed the pitch of the plane or something. but is this necessary? i think they will just find it more funny if it gets harder.
The pitch would change in effect, but only as an effect of the plane flying up and 'away'.. If everytime they hit the shoot button the rustler bounces upward then I think you'd be pretty safe as a racer, the rustler pilot would have to line back up to try shoot you. They'd have to be pretty desperate since only like 2 bullets would hit you if they're lucky!
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also you changed the pitch of the plane or something. but is this necessary? i think they will just find it more funny if it gets harder. it should be made impossible (=freeze for few seconds) and not only harder. your way sounds like it will still be possible.
And why must it be made impossible instead of just harder? some of you are always saying that road blocks are ok because if you drive well you can avoid them, but Rustlers are currently impossible to evade. However, if destroying cars with Rustlers is still possible but more difficult, then the Rustlers will be more or less like the race blocks...
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well hazard.. awesome if that works but didnt you say earlier that you want a simple solution? :D
It is quite a simple solution once the math is figured out. This kind of mathematical function is common on the internet and should be quite easy to whip up using basic trigonometry.. it could run in it's own script too. Tidily and away from all our other code. Not only that but I do not think this will effect rustler pilots if it only effects the pilots who are trying to shoot racers.
also you changed the pitch of the plane or something. but is this necessary? i think they will just find it more funny if it gets harder.
The pitch would change in effect, but only as an effect of the plane flying up and 'away'.. If everytime they hit the shoot button the rustler bounces upward then I think you'd be pretty safe as a racer, the rustler pilot would have to line back up to try shoot you. They'd have to be pretty desperate since only like 2 bullets would hit you if they're lucky!
sounds good. may we test it on the test server? :D
and yes gryhpus if i were you i would cry now too :'(
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also you changed the pitch of the plane or something. but is this necessary? i think they will just find it more funny if it gets harder. it should be made impossible (=freeze for few seconds) and not only harder. your way sounds like it will still be possible.
And why must it be made impossible instead of just harder? some of you are always saying that road blocks are ok because if you drive well you can avoid them, but Rustlers are currently impossible to evade. However, if destroying cars with Rustlers is still possible but more difficult, then the Rustlers will be more or less like the race blocks...
I doubt a rustler could destroy a racer using this implementation anyhow. If they're super lucky and a racer is already about to explode then maybe they could finish them off, but that's not what I'd call "destroying the race".
BikeDriver: No testing tonight (or this morning), it's too late so my brain is scripting dead.
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I doubt a rustler could destroy a racer using this implementation anyhow. If they're super lucky and a racer is already about to explode then maybe they could finish them off, but that's not what I'd call "destroying the race".
And what about making this only if the car you are shooting to has its health below a certain value? Rustlers would be able to make some damage to the racing cars but wouldn't be able to completely destroy them, so it would be an intermediate solution between the two parts (racers and pilots).
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its not possible gryphus.
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The racehoster should choose, if there become more repair zones added to as lap which work like Payin`spray. That would make everyone happy. I would have no problem with 20 or more red repair circles which would be added all around the 'All Around San Andreas' Lap... That wouldn't rub rustlers the fun and it would give racers a higher chance to not get blowed with their cars.
Another idea would be to give the racehost the option to give the racers a command they can use like 5 times in a race. If they use it, nobody can touch their cars for like 5-10 seconds. Maybe the car gets another colour for 5 secs or something then.
These are to ideas from me. I think everybody could live with it. But please don't touch the rustlers and what they can do during races! :( I spent 6 month in flying rustlers and train my skills with it. 3 people on the whole server can fuck races alone... Seriously! Think about my ideas please ???
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interesting ideas but in my oppinion a /repair command would just cause more problems. ramming/blocking racers will be pointless because they can repair now. also noobs dont know about the command.
and repair zones really dont fit in LW at all. also that wont help at all if the rustler guy knows what hes doing.
im glad to see that even you now take my suggestion serious. remember how you were laughing at me? :-* ;)
now that you see that shit is serious you suggest something. this was your first post in this thread that really made sense. rofl.
btw i have an additional idea to this:
what about if you can choose between rustler protected race and non protected race (was suggested before so far:D )? but now the new part:
with non protected race the winners get extra 100k (example).
would be awesome :P
if you see that no rustler tard is online then you can host unprotected race to get those extra monies :D
i think it would be cool. also in the races where rustlering is hard anyway the host now has a reason to host unprotected races. if he wants 100k extra cash more or less for free =P
for example in all round san fierro you dont have to disallow rustlers because its hard to destroy racers anyway. with this addition it really would be perfect. in my oppinion.
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That's what I was thinking about too. They should give the race hoster more options. But I still like the idea I gave more, because it is still possible for us to blow races, but even harder like it is atm. I think I will go for more races then again ;D
But why do repair zones don't work on Lv? I have seen it on some other servers already. Not because of any rustlers, but because of noobs that could repair their cars in red marks after their car started to smoke...
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repair zones would work but its stupid because it will be more like random if you can reach the next checkpoint before your car blows up. also rustler mens will just see this as a new challenge and rustler even more races.
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Yeah I was thinking about something similar to what you two are talking about: it's very easy to shoot with Rustlers in the open highways (like in All around San Andreas), but there are other races in which it's really hard to fly in (for example one in Los Santos hills, with many trees), so those races should be unprotected because it's already really challenging for the Rustler pilot and the racers have more chances to survive.
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When you say rustler mens, you talk about 3 people.
Of course it's a new challange. But why not add it too racehoster's options? Scott survived a half round with his car against me, because he did it clever... It's also a feature for noobs, because they often crash harder and they don't notice that they car will explode soon...
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Yeah, in races All Around San Andreas there should be more repair points, not only because of the Rustlers and roadblockers, but just because noob drivers will crash very often in such a long race.
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YES! good suggestion finally! ;)
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When you say rustler mens, you talk about 3 people.
3 people against the many many many people who race?
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When you say rustler mens, you talk about 3 people.
3 people against the many many many people who race?
Well, I think that when he has said 3 people he actually meant that only 3 people can't do much harm, not that 3 people have preference over the greater number of racers.
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1 rustler guy is enough to kill 15 racers. you really should know that.
3 rustlers are enough to kill 15 biking racers.
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I mean only 3 people of the whole community can fuck a race alone. That's what I wanna say here. Nothing else. By the way, if every racer would take a NRG we would have no chance, because NRGs survive much longer, mostly until the next Payin Spray. Some people already found out about that.
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1 rustler guy is enough to kill 15 racers. you really should know that.
3 rustlers are enough to kill 15 biking racers.
Ptfffff don't exagerate so much, if there are really 15 racers, I can't destroy them all. And about the "biking racers", you should know that bikes are much harder to hit than cars, so here you have another solution to be more protected: bikes aren't as fast as Infernuses, but in return they are more endurable.
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i already killed more than 10 racers with a rustler.. alone ::). its easy as fuck.
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We should fight then :)
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i never did a rustler fight. i dont care about this shit at all.
the time when i ruined some races with rustler was like 1 or 2 years ago and it was a matter of ~ 1 week.
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whatever...
I hope Hazard will reply to our new suggestions.
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Or take action against DB! Example:
# Until the front wheel of the bike!
# -1 To kill ration!
Given that majority votes are the ones who want to exclude these planes in flights to take measures urgently PLEASE!
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Or take action against DB! Example:
# Until the front wheel of the bike!
# -1 To kill ration!
Given that majority votes are the ones who want to exclude these planes in flights to take measures urgently PLEASE!
?!!!!??!?!??!!!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
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Or take action against DB! Example:
# Until the front wheel of the bike!
# -1 To kill ration!
Given that majority votes are the ones who want to exclude these planes in flights to take measures urgently PLEASE!
?!!!!??!?!??!!!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
are you stupud men? you dont unstand leytojean? :) :)
no srly.. this was nonsense :D
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Why do not you understand?
To remove the Db on the server or take action genre: -1 to (kill rational) if you kill someone with DB or the front wheel of the motorcycle explosion! If the DB or took steps like this are sure and those measures may be used Rustler!
The best attack to remove a plane I think is off ammunition that have that plane!
DB is the same as Rustler! To remove the DB or taken action and to remove or not yet taken steps Rustlers! Example I just gave you or take measures to remove the DB and what measures can be applied to remove the rustlers!
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Why do not you understand?
To remove the Db on the server or take action genre: -1 to (kill rational) if you kill someone with DB or the front wheel of the motorcycle explosion! If the DB or took steps like this are sure and those measures may be used Rustler!
The best attack to remove a plane I think is off ammunition that have that plane!
DB is the same as Rustler! To remove the DB or taken action and to remove or not yet taken steps Rustlers! Example I just gave you or take measures to remove the DB and what measures can be applied to remove the rustlers!
Actually Rustlers in races are like db: they can be limited, controlled and regulated, but should never be completely removed.
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I really like the idea of the repair points. That would be a good way for noobs (like me ;D) to finish the race and they make it harder to kill racers.
Perhaps you can take a limit to the repair points too: Racers can only repair their cars when they have 300 or less health. That would have the effect, that they don't repair after every little crash or street blockade. :)
Btw: I am not good enough to fuck races yet. And when i try it, it is just a way to train flying. i've never destroyed a car with my rustler at a race. ;)
And finally, i totally agree with qwerbeet, that locking or taking away the rustlers is the worst things you can do.
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today there was some col race.
qwerbet spammed all the time that they wont kill the non-regulars but in the end they let some friends pass and killed everybody else.
it was compeltly retarded and not funny at all. kthxbye
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today there was some col race.
qwerbet spammed all the time that they wont kill the non-regulars but in the end they let some friends pass and killed everybody else.
it was compeltly retarded and not funny at all. kthxbye
Well, in that case you will have to make diplomatic relationships with the SAAF (San Andreas Air Force) to get their respect, like enkei and Scott have done with me (you can ask Scott about two races that have been this morning).
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Bikedriver, You make me ROFL. In that race i crashed like 3 times. There was only 1 lap so in the end, I was able to get 4 racers. I've shot friends like Nero, SRC and others too, but SRC could just escape, because he used his breaks smartly. In the end, SRC could win. An unknown player (noob to me) could get 3rd position.
Why do you keep spamming all this shit here if you don't even know anything about what I was doing and what was going on? All you have seen was reading what I've written in the chat. And what i said was, that I will fuck all pro racers this race. I didn't do that to make people think "Qwerbeet is a good guy. He lets noobs win". It was to let SRC, Nero and other friends in Race checkpoint know, that I will shoot them this race and they need to look for me. I arrived at race start 1 minute before start, because I was on a truck trip to the Mount Chilliad with Pablo before, so I had no time to figure out who of my friends was driving. I used main chat to make it clear. Where is the problem? I have written that like 3 times, but nero didn't read. I haven't talked to him yet but after he got blowed by me in race, he even got mad at me. :)
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you just fucked up another race. ::)
was one of the 5% where you use rustlers fo sure ::)
i was using NRG because i thought that you 2 fags were at least able to kill all the infernuses but it seems like i overestimated you. i really thought that those infernus guys were your friends because its so fucking easy to kill an infernus but you didnt do it for some reason.
btw i got attacked all the time. even though i was undercover and with account with 0.X kill ratio. big win. tards.
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If you wanna argue get msn or use forum pm. Thanks :)
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Nice suggestion dude
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lol he dont wanna argue, he has just proven his point and showed that what you say qwerbet is pure bullshit...
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lol he dont wanna argue, he has just proven his point and showed that what you say qwerbet is pure bullshit...
Why do you give more credibility to BikeDriver than to Qwerbeet?
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lol he dont wanna argue, he has just proven his point and showed that what you say qwerbet is pure bullshit...
Why do you give more credibility to BikeDriver than to Qwerbeet?
there is nothing about credibility, qwerbet didnt even deny, so i guess its true.
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Bikedriver, You make me ROFL. In that race i crashed like 3 times. There was only 1 lap so in the end, I was able to get 4 racers. I've shot friends like Nero, SRC and others too, but SRC could just escape, because he used his breaks smartly. In the end, SRC could win. An unknown player (noob to me) could get 3rd position.
Why do you keep spamming all this shit here if you don't even know anything about what I was doing and what was going on? All you have seen was reading what I've written in the chat. And what i said was, that I will fuck all pro racers this race. I didn't do that to make people think "Qwerbeet is a good guy. He lets noobs win". It was to let SRC, Nero and other friends in Race checkpoint know, that I will shoot them this race and they need to look for me. I arrived at race start 1 minute before start, because I was on a truck trip to the Mount Chilliad with Pablo before, so I had no time to figure out who of my friends was driving. I used main chat to make it clear. Where is the problem? I have written that like 3 times, but nero didn't read. I haven't talked to him yet but after he got blowed by me in race, he even got mad at me. :)
Yes like everyone says qwerbeet shot, last time just racing by some miracle all SRC won 1st place and this without pause or play dirty. I nam no inpotriva if you want to shoot at us I am happy ... only becomes more exciting race that I like one thing I want to leave and start making .. so you can shoot me and all the races but let serveru been gaining. ;)
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Yes like everyone says qwerbeet shot, last time just racing by some miracle all SRC won 1st place and this without pause or play dirty. I nam no inpotriva if you want to shoot at us I am happy ... only becomes more exciting race that I like one thing I want to leave and start making .. so you can shoot me and all the races but let serveru been gaining. ;)
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he said that he have uber driving skills now and for him races only get exciting when at least 20 rustlers hunt him ;)