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Title: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on July 31, 2010, 01:18:25 PM
hey
its pretty clear
all i want to say if that possible to decrease the ping limit to 300...
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: AJP on July 31, 2010, 02:12:36 PM
you forgot to add 400 as one of the options :p
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on July 31, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
you forgot to add 400 as one of the options :p
400 is like 450
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Alvar on July 31, 2010, 02:37:55 PM
I voted 300, I don't mind people getting kicked at ping of 300.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: iMJets on July 31, 2010, 02:45:07 PM
leave the ping limit alone or put it to 400 we dont need to lose more ppl
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: legolas3983 on July 31, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Vote for 350
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Reny on July 31, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
I voted for 300.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on July 31, 2010, 03:16:30 PM
leave the ping limit alone or put it to 400 we dont need to lose more ppl
ok make the ping limit 1337
we dont want to lose more ppl
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: legolas3983 on July 31, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
leave the ping limit alone or put it to 400 we dont need to lose more ppl
ok make the ping limit 1337
we dont want to lose more ppl
lol 1337 sure put it  :D
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Voodoo on July 31, 2010, 03:26:02 PM
300  :-*
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on July 31, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
leave the ping limit alone or put it to 400 we dont need to lose more ppl

Very true, reducing the ping limit would do more harm than good.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: AJP on July 31, 2010, 04:03:16 PM
the thing is, a server full of people with over 400 ping is just as fun as an empty server.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: KoTToM on July 31, 2010, 04:11:08 PM
400 is better, since LW is filled with 300-400 pingers.. cuz some ping jumps
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on July 31, 2010, 04:29:26 PM
You won't get kicked for ur ping jumping, it is only about avarage ping. I voted for 300.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: BikeDriver on July 31, 2010, 10:08:13 PM
rly guys this is retarded.
we will lose even more players with a lower ping limit. laggers might be harder to fight but they cant aim at you properly too so its a fair fight again. i dont like this suggestion at all.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on July 31, 2010, 10:13:39 PM
rly guys this is retarded.
we will lose even more players with a lower ping limit. laggers might be harder to fight but they cant aim at you properly too so its a fair fight again. i dont like this suggestion at all.

Yeah I agree with BikeDriver. Besides, many of you SHOULD BE HAPPY because lag is something that makes db harder. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: SRC on July 31, 2010, 10:15:09 PM
fuck yeaa limit 250-300 max fucking all laggars , I would like to make 200
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: BiG_Sm0k3 on August 01, 2010, 01:03:57 AM
lol, this should be auto denied, this is just like racism. There are ppl that live in places too far away from the server( australia) or that have a bad conection (India) and you want them to be kicked by anti ping? oh come on.
Dig it
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: AJP on August 01, 2010, 01:13:26 AM
lol has nothing to do with racism, don't aussie servers have ping kickers aswell? It has nothing to do with the person with high ping being a southamerican or indian or australian and for that reason he should be kicked, it's because that the distance from him and the server causes excessive lagg, and it's completely pointless in having any proper fights with people that have over 300 ping.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Alvar on August 01, 2010, 04:59:21 AM
fuck yeaa limit 250-300 max fucking all laggars , I would like to make 200
Thank god your not in charge then.
lol, this should be auto denied, this is just like racism. There are ppl that live in places too far away from the server( australia) or that have a bad conection (India) and you want them to be kicked by anti ping? oh come on.
Dig it
Racism? Learn the meaning of racism.
the thing is, a server full of people with over 400 ping is just as fun as an empty server.
Totally right. I'm quite sure we wouldn't lose almost any players.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: HASEEB1 on August 01, 2010, 08:00:59 AM
I voted for 300.
i had to leave the game then :(
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Simon on August 01, 2010, 08:16:15 AM
I voted for 300.
i had to leave the game then :(


You're not the only one. Two script developers and I would probably also have to leave the game. I for one won't develop on a server I can't even play on.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Alvar on August 01, 2010, 08:39:45 AM
Simon, your ping ain't high. :D And ping kicker doesn't work for admins/mods in my opinion. Was made when Scott was admin due to his mother downloading occasionally.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Simon on August 01, 2010, 08:49:09 AM
Simon, your ping ain't high. :D And ping kicker doesn't work for admins/mods in my opinion. Was made when Scott was admin due to his mother downloading occasionally.

It's usually about 330 but I do have spikes depending on if someone's using another computer on my network and what they're doing.

I think it's unfair to introduce extra gameplay advantages for admins and I'd prefer to steer clear of them. By advantage I mean I'd be the only player used to shooting with high ping and everyone else would be used to shooting low pingers.

The biggest problem ain't ping, it's people on people with network congestion and people with low framerates that are the problem.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Roach on August 01, 2010, 09:24:36 AM
We won't lose any players with this.
We only will lose players with unfindable hitboxs.
Maybe this will attract more players with good computers & conncection.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on August 01, 2010, 09:25:32 AM
rly guys this is retarded.
we will lose even more players with a lower ping limit. laggers might be harder to fight but they cant aim at you properly too so its a fair fight again. i dont like this suggestion at all.
high pingers arent retards!!!!?
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Roach on August 01, 2010, 09:37:54 AM
rly guys this is retarded.
we will lose even more players with a lower ping limit. laggers might be harder to fight but they cant aim at you properly too so its a fair fight again. i dont like this suggestion at all.
high pingers arent retards!!!!?

arguments ?

the fact you call retards people with high pings makes you more retarded than them.

Learn english you retards, he didn't call high pingers retards, retards!
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Simon on August 01, 2010, 10:52:42 AM
We won't lose any players with this.
We only will lose players with unfindable hitboxs.
Maybe this will attract more players with good computers & conncection.


"We won't lose any players"; "we will only lose players with unfindable hitboxes" -- they are still players. There is more than deathmatch in the server.

When you're all cosy and sleeping. Who do you think is playing? Loads of laggers. What do these laggers attract with their player count? The morning low ping players, who in effect help the server continue throughout the day.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on August 01, 2010, 12:13:06 PM
I agree with Hazard in everything he has said in this thread, but only one thing:

We won't lose any players with this.
We only will lose players with unfindable hitboxs.
Maybe this will attract more players with good computers & conncection.


"We won't lose any players"; "we will only lose players with unfindable hitboxes" -- they are still players. There is more There should be more than deathmatch in the server.

Fixed.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: HASEEB1 on August 01, 2010, 01:31:16 PM
We won't lose any players with this.
We only will lose players with unfindable hitboxs.
Maybe this will attract more players with good computers & conncection.
1   good suggestion roach.But u will lose atleast 25% of population
2   so u think we can find it easily.ill show u screenshots. we have to hit atleast 3 cm away from them
3   it is not the problem of computer and connection,it is the problem of distance(atleast for me).
anyhow,i can play every game in max settings like pop fs, cod mw2 , ac2 and gta 4
and playing gta sa on 80 fps on max settings
 :) >:( :) >:(
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: â–ºBuRNZâ„¢ on August 01, 2010, 03:44:58 PM
rly guys this is retarded.
we will lose even more players with a lower ping limit. laggers might be harder to fight but they cant aim at you properly too so its a fair fight again. i dont like this suggestion at all.
high pingers arent retards!!!!?

350 or 400 ... high pingers arent hard to hit soo badly if they dont warp and shit  ...  btw u lag more than any high pinger in the server cheetos
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: AJP on August 01, 2010, 04:59:06 PM
Cheetos doesn't lagg at all anymore, he used to have rly bad fps lagg but he managed to fix it. I think I've done over a couple dozen duels with him without any problems.

As far as ping goes, it's reasonable to say that people with 400-450 ping don't even have a proper gaming experience and also find themselves bugged 70% of the time. I used to not know that downloads caused this and would have to always relog because of bugs and shit since the server would stop detecting me while entering a menu or some shit. It's reasonable to place a ping limit between 350 and 400, most people around the world can play and even though they're still laggers against <100 pingers it's fair to say they can both have a decent gaming experience no?

Also another note Simon that Admins and Mods shouldn't get ping kicked because lots of times they would get kicked while checking reports, I found myself sometimes ingame just to check reports and idle a bit, so it's not really an advantage.

Basically people with over 400 ping bring bugs, and many times get desynced to the server and getting banned wrongfully and/or players upset.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Roach on August 02, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Hmmm, ain't it pathetic???
Little whiteys need laggers to fill up the server
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on August 02, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
Btw kicking someone because his ping is to high, is just racism. Instead of reducing it i thing we should increase it to 500. That way more people can join as most people that do join LW are from America (north and south) Some of them have better connections than others so we shouldnt put a hold to that.

And you talk about irony?? Ain't it ironic that now you talk about racism and about everyone's right to play here, when you are always claiming for a hard, unbalanced and discriminatory server??
You are losing your credibility on every single message you post.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Roach on August 02, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
Btw kicking someone because his ping is to high, is just racism. Instead of reducing it i thing we should increase it to 500. That way more people can join as most people that do join LW are from America (north and south) Some of them have better connections than others so we shouldnt put a hold to that.

And you talk about irony?? Ain't it ironic that now you talk about racism and about everyone's right to play here, when you are always claiming for a hard, unbalanced and discriminatory server??
You are losing your credibility on every single message you post.

Lol, yea how do you call it when you accuse others of being retards???? isnt that something like racism aswell????
Damn 1.hypocrite
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Btw, I said the limit should be set lower cuz maybe it attracts those players who like smoother gameplay.
In the other hand it making it higher could attract more laggers.(probably results in more players than the low limit)
Which one is better???
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on August 02, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Ohh by the way, I was forgetting this:

Its not just the officials tab being removed. LW got lame, LW got easy, LW got lazy, LW got smacked in the face but didnt wake up.

Ohh yeah, sure that these are the causes of the server being empty, of course the gangs 4 vs 1 and the stats nerds rapping new players don't have anything to do, right?

And of course LW got easier, that's the progress in everything!!! calculators make maths easier, computers make all the administrative and office works much easier, digital cameras make it easier to take and edit hundreds of photos, modern medical equipment make things easier for medics and patients, agricultural machinery make the farmer's work easier, etc.
When something is very difficult, you are less productive because you have to focus all your efforts in only that specific task, whereas if things are easier you can be more productive because you can spread your efforts in other things at the same time.

If travelling through time were possible, I bet you would be happy in the Stone Age...
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Disco on August 02, 2010, 01:27:32 PM
hey
its pretty clear
all i want to say if that possible to decrease the ping limit to 300...

Good idea ...

We will lose some players but we will also get some cuz the new player dont meet people which "cant be hit"
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on August 02, 2010, 01:52:18 PM
hey
its pretty clear
all i want to say if that possible to decrease the ping limit to 300...

Good idea ...

We will lose some players but we will also get some cuz the new player dont meet people which "cant be hit"
exactly
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Gryphus_One on August 02, 2010, 01:56:28 PM
We will lose some players but we will also get some cuz the new player dont meet people which "cant be hit"

Mmmm, but new players are more focused on not being hit, than in hitting other players. In other words: for a new player, the priority is to survive rather than to kill, so a new player is more likely to stay if he is allowed to be a beer lagger than if he is not, despite of him having it harder to kill others.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: Roach on August 02, 2010, 02:12:48 PM
We will lose some players but we will also get some cuz the new player dont meet people which "cant be hit"

Mmmm, but new players are more focused on not being hit, than in hitting other players. In other words: for a new player, the priority is to survive rather than to kill, so a new player is more likely to stay if he is allowed to be a beer lagger than if he is not, despite of him having it harder to kill others.

I got your point.
But if the killing is a little bit easier for the new fella's, they might be more tempted try & kill others which is more fun than running away.
They will get more & quicker skills this way, which increases the chance of them stickin to the server.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: robbynab on August 02, 2010, 03:20:57 PM
Wait, you could also stop blaming "noobs" not staying, but blaming regulars who aren't here anymore.
When I started, playercount was >120, with like 10[V]s, 10[JOKER]s, 10[Nx]s and several clanless regulars, so yeah.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: BikeDriver on August 02, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
 i really hope that noone of the scripters is so stupid to take this suggestion serious.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: BikeDriver on August 03, 2010, 12:27:21 AM
lol there always was a gang called "350+ ping laggers" almost every time 15+ members :D

lukatonn was one of them.. it was hilarious :D

Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: [Cheetos] on August 04, 2010, 11:34:24 PM
take a look on this
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Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: englander on August 05, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
leave the ping limit alone or put it to 400 we dont need to lose more ppl

Agree with that you have a lot of south American players and if you drop your ping limit to 300 you will freeze them out.
Title: Re: decrease the ping limit
Post by: dugi on August 05, 2010, 07:37:13 PM
The ping limit will not be changed.