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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: Flashy on October 30, 2010, 02:49:32 PM

Title: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 30, 2010, 02:49:32 PM
Hello players, Mods and Admins,

Since I visit and play this server I want to have the max fun possible. So it is wrong to complain and to discute some things that annoy me.

 - Race ruiners: I don´t know how it works but I things it are car bombs. At race start some nabs shot other at race. After the 10 secs race starting a bomb explode in the middle of the racestartpoint and all cars explode. --> race ruined, killed the fun. How is it possible to make bombs? It´s called "car bomb" or something?

 - Get some new admins, or make the actual admins be more online in game. I don´t understand what the managment from LW want tp practice but the server is dying more and more. Since 25th October I only saw Carolicious, Alvar, Sjitty and Banbgus online in the server. At the moment teh most time no admin is online and the game get in chaos with Cheater, rulebreakers, flamers, and all this stuff. I think it´s time for a "Adminstrator-Revolution". Get some new admins and kick old admins that aren´t online since months.

It can´t be, that the server is getting full of cheaters and new players leave the server because the atmosphere is shit.

 - Decrease the amount of money you get from properties or increase the money you must pay for a propertie. Why? At this why you get easy money. To easy. If you have all properties you get in 1 h more than1,500,000 money. At the Moment it is to easy to get money.

 - In common: Get some Admins online. The Server will be more clean when there is more Admins online. Race ruiners / spawnkillers / 2-shot / avoid death with /q / etc. It isn´t possible to get this rulebreakers because no Admins were online. The whole time some players do it. And regulär planer get easily annoyed and mad. I think you remember very well when I was banned for /q avoid. And now uze it x20. 20x more times Happens that in the server.

So I don´t unterstand what is so difficult to give pople a Chance and give them a Mods or Admins Status. Old Admins are polite and they know how to handle situations but they aren´t enough online -_-

Greetz Flashy
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: TypeR on October 30, 2010, 03:08:53 PM
+1, but this topic wont change anything, 2-3 admins will be online like now, others will join once per month, twice if there will be some big events, splater,blew,sjitty,zama, chainer,faraday they scripting and no1 of us wont tell anything to them, but where are dlur,zaina,tezza,shadowfire,cj,firefox,fugitive,iop,lilly,neonkiller,puberz, if they have problems in life or other stuff, they maybe can be month,two,three inactive, but i played on lw 700+ hours, and never saw ingame dlur,zaina,fugitive, they should be demoted or something, they can still admins ofc, but if they are inactive, chose new, regular, suitable players for mods/admins.

S3rs,ace,alvar,bang,nightmare,sjitty are most time online but they 4-5 cant be online every day 10 hours to ban cheaters,rulebreakers etc.

One of the reasons why I left from lw ^^
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Gryphus_One on October 30, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Yeah Flashy I agree: one of the reasons why I play here less than before, is the server being empty and the high number of cheaters.
Apart from this, newbies have to face a very hostile environment, so the server can't get more players.

About the properties, there's a new system that maybe will be implemented someday, that will make it harder to earn money from props.

And TypeR, I didn't know that you had left the server.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 30, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
Agree, too what you both said ;)

Some things must chance to make Lw more popular. Why no one try that and work a little bit more hard to reach the popular level like 1-2 years ago? There were min 80 players online..every day..

And this was the time were a lot of players donate for the server. That was funny. I don´t know exactly what Lw version was used 1-2 years ago but in this time I had the most fun.

At the moment I don´t see any fun factor here. That´s the reason why I run from all lamers and the discussion start again:

"Omg, why you run [insultings]" What follows is a harch discussion about running, lamers etc.. --> There the fun is over and I feel really good to use The /q command.

An other thing is that no one fight for fairness. I am not crying. I am using my arguments to show you what annoys more then half of the regular players.

Today [InC]PawnStar runied the race fun with shooting all in the racepoint. After telling him to stop he continues. Well, where are teh admins...no one online so he could leave without any consequence. Well done admins!

The only thing what makes really fun today at this server is: Staying and hide in NAM, SAM or just relax in the middle of Las Venturas (between NAM and Caligulas Casino) and wait till palyers attack you -_- Hooooooooow funnyyyyyy.

Really If I could script a ittle bit better I would change this stuff alot and put this in the right way. Unfortunalty I can´t.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: TypeR on October 30, 2010, 03:36:26 PM
And TypeR, I didn't know that you had left the server.

Date Registered: August 25, 2009, 10:39:17 pm--on forum, on server month-two before

On topic:
Could be millions of reasons why they leave. Bad connection, lag, nothing to do, bored, just exploring their options thats just to name a few.

Yeah I fully agree with the red part!!! ;)

There are some stuff what players can do, but there are also fags which would ruin those stuffs, so yeah, no fun


Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 30, 2010, 04:16:16 PM
@ Benny: That´s very good. So the point is proven that new admins must come in to make the server better.

Also the point is proven that old admins must lose there admin status and new admins must come up. Within I recommend open the Administrator applications again to see who will be good as admin.

No one cares about the admin section. Maybe there is to much work to develop new things. It would be better if they work on the actual system without new things and get all in order.

In fact, without admins the server can´t be alive. You can have the best script it won´t change.

Get some admins and managment to see that.

Greetz Flashy
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: SRC on October 30, 2010, 04:36:56 PM
Hey all
Yes and I agree with flashy even if he has abused the rules but he wants to say is that LW needs a new list of admin ... maybe it's not going to like it but I do not mean happy to remove anyone from the list but still take some steps of 30 or more than 30 admins who are not sure if I saw 10 this year everyone who is online admin get promoted for 1-2 weeks and then forget him and what role can the absence for 5-6 months so I propose to make a new list of staff ... Comunity and those who are not online can not see the point why have admin? orcum because they do nothing [that is just for those who are admins and they looked so I know I have a personal life, yet even an hour a day if he went all not jump and can be seen no server was more Whether filled with more / race and others] congratulations to those who have been online and not even worth the admin wants to give their names but they know who they are .. are a few that really deserves full role in admin or Scripter.

Respectfully SRC
 
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Disco on October 30, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
Flashy first of all ..

Why should someone care about what you say ?

And to the rest ...

There are a lot more admins online you just dont see them ...
There are admins who are only on irc aswell cuz they script and stuff
I realy dont like most of the staff but i guess its the best which runs the server and if you dont think so can you tell me some admin material ???
May some incs ?
or
Gryphus ?
or w/e, there are no players .
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Alvar on October 30, 2010, 05:20:38 PM
me some admin material ???
May some incs ?
or
Gryphus ?
or w/e, there are no players .
That's one good valid point, there really is so few people that could be promoted to mod/admin.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2010, 06:23:09 AM
me some admin material ???
May some incs ?
or
Gryphus ?
or w/e, there are no players .
That's one good valid point, there really is so few people that could be promoted to mod/admin.

right, some very valid point you haz there.

only retards playing -> everybody cool quit playing on lw -> no admin material -> more retards playing -> more no admin material -> even more retards  :'(

catch-22 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHhhh
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Disco on October 31, 2010, 08:08:59 AM
The Admin who removed my post should remove hottys too Cuz its Same useless

Well bikedriver is right in those Points
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on October 31, 2010, 11:28:40 AM
Well admins do have lives and probably your noticing less admins as universities/schools have started back. (In summer i was online most days all day cus nothing to do) Due to this admins have less times (uni/school/work is more important).

Now unfortunately as a side effect there are less admins in game, and therefore cheaters increase and player count decreases.  Hopefully, admins lives will get a lil less busy and some more will be on-line.

Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: SRC on October 31, 2010, 12:18:15 PM
Well admins do have lives and probably your noticing less admins as universities/schools have started back. (In summer i was online most days all day cus nothing to do) Due to this admins have less times (uni/school/work is more important).

Now unfortunately as a side effect there are less admins in game, and therefore cheaters increase and player count decreases.  Hopefully, admins lives will get a lil less busy and some more will be on-line.

  Yes we know that admins have their personal lives and problems as any man but now there are 31 admins in list of community with only max 12 staff on duty ... if all these 31-admins should be entered each have an hour a day all the time would have been an online admin and you should stop these cheaters are 24 hours and are 31 admins ... each have an hour a day, neither more nor less, and still would have been better.
  I do not have anything to anyone and no one of the admins, but if admins do their job if not let others who are able ... many of you have entered eight months - a year or even just 5 min ... that admins do not understand you and does not enter the game what are you then?
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2010, 12:24:56 PM
Well admins do have lives and probably your noticing less admins as universities/schools have started back. (In summer i was online most days all day cus nothing to do) Due to this admins have less times (uni/school/work is more important).

Now unfortunately as a side effect there are less admins in game, and therefore cheaters increase and player count decreases.  Hopefully, admins lives will get a lil less busy and some more will be on-line.

LOL now i cum and claim that its caused by your random 100% unbans... oh you call it "database cleaning", yea great! with this unbans you ruined all the work of so many years.. without flashys teleport-cheat-unban there wouldnt even be this shit thread here right now..
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on October 31, 2010, 03:26:54 PM
(a) i never unbanned anyone
(b) EVER thought the player count is due to players entering with undercover names and dbing players and flaming?
(c)I have just played this afternoon and i can see why admins DONT come on, i had a break (due to personal reasons) and i came back and realise why i dont play here often - Some players are trying to get someone you dislike banned (via rule bending) then when admins do nothing (cus were not idiots) you guys get pissed.

Then undercover players annoying everyone (via DB/rule bending) and so this annoys others who leave....then you make a thread "The reason LW's has so few players....(is mainly cus of what i have been doing)"

When i was a player (with over 150 people and no mod/admin) There were cheaters...you know what we did? GOT FRAPS USED /REPORT AND SCREENED STUFF then we would report to an admin on irc or to forums and that player would get banned. When im on irc all i see is "ID 3 CHITTER" WELL WAT CHEATS? as an idea FUCKIN REPORT/SCREEN/FRAPS

Good grief people, help us to help you!
(Now i know this does not apply to the majority, but the minority are ruining it for the majority)


Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 31, 2010, 03:56:03 PM
(a) i never unbanned anyone
(b) EVER thought the player count is due to players entering with undercover names and dbing players and flaming?
(c)I have just played this afternoon and i can see why admins DONT come on, i had a break (due to personal reasons) and i came back and realise why i dont play here often - Some players are trying to get someone you dislike banned (via rule bending) then when admins do nothing (cus were not idiots) you guys get pissed.

Very good part! This happen to me, too.

Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2010, 04:00:23 PM
(a) i never unbanned anyone
(b) EVER thought the player count is due to players entering with undercover names and dbing players and flaming?
(c)I have just played this afternoon and i can see why admins DONT come on, i had a break (due to personal reasons) and i came back and realise why i dont play here often - Some players are trying to get someone you dislike banned (via rule bending) then when admins do nothing (cus were not idiots) you guys get pissed.

Then undercover players annoying everyone (via DB/rule bending) and so this annoys others who leave....then you make a thread "The reason LW's has so few players....(is mainly cus of what i have been doing)"

(a) but dugi unbanned like 5.000 IPs at once?
(b) no. i did only db certain players and i did never seriously flame anybody. im sure everybody who i flamed noticed that i was only joking. besides that you never even thought about warning me or anything so why talking shit about me now?
(c) i didnt bend any rules. you just ignored some rules. also i wasnt mad at all. maybe little benny was mad while making this pathetic complaints about me killing him in front of DA but i didnt do nothing. you let benny /q right in front of your eyes and ignore it. im not bending rules, you are.

([V]ACE edited this to shorten the quote as some of the quote was not relevant to the discussion)
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on October 31, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
(b) no. i did only db certain players and i did never seriously flame anybody. im sure everybody who i flamed noticed that i was only joking. besides that you never even thought about warning me or anything so why talking shit about me now?
(c) i didnt bend any rules. you just ignored some rules.

(b) You still flamed players, but not massively (also ive heard a lot lot worse but i have known server who would have kicked/banned you) and new players see some player flaming does not promote the best server image, but i was thinking other players  who flame more (a lot more).
(c) I did not ignore any rule - you and Benny seemed to think i would ban the other person, cus of a personal issue with each other. You said Benny quit to avoid death (when you had not even started fighting) and he said you broke a "DA" rule (which i replied to but do not think you was on-line when i said i would have to ban myself and half the server for the "offence".)

One point: If your going to quote me would you mind shortening my original quote for your points - otherwise these pages will take ages to load.

In response to (a) - it was done to improve server count and as many people had changed ips (some innocent players could not play due to old bans, as ISP had changed).
Other than that it was a desist of the admin team so im not going to respond further to it.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: BikeDriver on October 31, 2010, 04:16:59 PM
bisch

i flame all the time, but the players who i flame are either retarded or know that im not serious.

or did you take it serious when i called you a retarded copac? (i didnt take it serious when you called me bitch either! even if i reported you for pm flaming:))

now lets end this shitty, pointless discussion with drugz awesome signature quote:
"I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." ;)
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on October 31, 2010, 04:41:28 PM
Bike once i knew it was you i didnt mind, its when i didnt know (a random noob sayin shit is just annoying). But as i said i was talkin about other worse players who flame, but agree lets end this pointless crap and continue with the thread.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 31, 2010, 05:09:58 PM
As I made this topic I give you a short tip where we was before this discussion of ACE and Bikedriver beguns ( I will quote myself)

@ Benny: That´s very good. So the point is proven that new admins must come in to make the server better.

Also the point is proven that old admins must lose there admin status and new admins must come up. Within I recommend open the Administrator applications again to see who will be good as admin.

No one cares about the admin section. Maybe there is to much work to develop new things. It would be better if they work on the actual system without new things and get all in order.

In fact, without admins the server can´t be alive. You can have the best script it won´t change.

Get some admins and managment to see that.

Greetz Flashy

SO what I and we need now is that soem managment give  us a decision. Or just a tip what they want to do in teh further. New admisn must come up. Why not reopen the administrator applications?!

Greetz Flashy
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Disco on October 31, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
Flashy because there is no way to apply as admin ..
they are choosen by the management ..
and atm there is no admin material ..
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on October 31, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
Flashy because there is no way to apply as admin ..
they are choosen by the management ..
and atm there is no admin material ..

;/ Didn´t know that admins get chosen directly by managment.
Well thanks for info.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on October 31, 2010, 08:45:31 PM
I am concerned that my second post was overlooked but yeah admins are chosen by management and other admins (so chosen by peers based on whos the best). Oddly if you read one of my posts you could guess why there is no person suitable at the moment....
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on November 01, 2010, 07:57:41 PM
Double post i know but this is off topic and information:
Any posts deleted were due to them not being on topic (go moan and bitch with each other on a web cam or private chat channel, then have make up sex).

Get it back on topic otherwise my padlock is coming out (and that is not a sexual reference)
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: eDiT on November 01, 2010, 09:45:32 PM

only retards playing -> everybody cool quit playing on lw -> no admin material -> more retards playing -> more no admin material -> even more retards  :'(

catch-22 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHhhh
most people that are promoted go inactive from ingame eventually anyway!  i don't see that it'd change the server
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: AJP on November 01, 2010, 09:48:25 PM
most admins are inactive here (including me) but lets be honest, with the players online nowadays mod and admin material is scarce.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: iMJets on November 02, 2010, 04:13:14 AM
true i dont rlly see any players online that are worthy of being one. I think there are enough admins atm but i dont think ive seen a mod for quite awhile but i dont think that matters.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Flashy on November 02, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
Lets get deeper in this administrator discussion:
I think we need new Administrators/Moderators. No one can say the opposite. So now we must look deeper who could be promoted to this level. Maybe we must look at players who doesn´t go in game to bitch with others. We must look at players who go in game to have fun and who is helpful.

Seriously, I give you some playernames who in my opinion would be good for this jobs:

[JOKER]Freak and [JOKER]Huggy: Both are very polite and have a feeling for good gaming. Both come from the JOKER Clan. As this clan have strong rules which are very fair the players act like that. They can organize the game and handle this job evry well. Some regulars know them. They play a long time and they have a high knowledge about the game. [This have nothing to do that they are my friends. It´s my own opinion]

(Duke): Friendly, polite, honest and helpful. I never see him in gae rage about something. He is very cool. I can´t say how his knowledge about this job is but if he knows what counts he is a perfect player for MoD and later maybe Admin! Btw, he is also a regular and play very often in the server. He is Donator.

SRC:  This planer is a full win! I don´t know why he isn´t Mod yet. He is often online. He isn´t for a spezial clan. He goss in game to have fun, tot and to hell pople where he can. I saw he can´t speak so well english but it doesn´t matter if we understand him. He is polite, friendly and is helpful, too. It doesn’t  look like he is a bad guy.

Nithael: Same as SRC. Very often online. He is perfect for a Mod job!

S3X®Jets®UB™: I know him very well. He is different like the maority. He never insults someone or provokate anybody. He is one of my favourite player cause he play fair. Like SRC and Duke he must be someone for Mod!

[JOKER]Miczi: This guy is epic. Speak very well English. Knows a lot about the game. Polite, friendly, honest and also helpful. Is in the Joker clan.


That was some player which I think were perfect for a promotion. It is only for the management to know some guys who would be able to do that. I don´t mention Gryphus, Benny, Forgive, Disco, Qwerbeet and so on, because:

Raging all the time with other players
Insulting all players who they doesn´t like
Don´t know the meaning of “Fairness”
Spam chat, break rules
Make newbies leave

I don´t want to get now pointless discussions about this post. If you have something against this tell us with SOLID ARGUMENTS.

Greetz Flashy
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: Reny on November 02, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
Lets get deeper in this administrator discussion:
I think we need new Administrators/Moderators. No one can say the opposite. So now we must look deeper who could be promoted to this level. Maybe we must look at players who doesn´t go in game to bitch with others. We must look at players who go in game to have fun and who is helpful.

Seriously, I give you some playernames who in my opinion would be good for this jobs:

[JOKER]Freak and [JOKER]Huggy: Both are very polite and have a feeling for good gaming. Both come from the JOKER Clan. As this clan have strong rules which are very fair the players act like that. They can organize the game and handle this job evry well. Some regulars know them. They play a long time and they have a high knowledge about the game. [This have nothing to do that they are my friends. It´s my own opinion]

(Duke): Friendly, polite, honest and helpful. I never see him in gae rage about something. He is very cool. I can´t say how his knowledge about this job is but if he knows what counts he is a perfect player for MoD and later maybe Admin! Btw, he is also a regular and play very often in the server. He is Donator.

SRC:  This planer is a full win! I don´t know why he isn´t Mod yet. He is often online. He isn´t for a spezial clan. He goss in game to have fun, tot and to hell pople where he can. I saw he can´t speak so well english but it doesn´t matter if we understand him. He is polite, friendly and is helpful, too. It doesn’t  look like he is a bad guy.

Nithael: Same as SRC. Very often online. He is perfect for a Mod job!

S3X®Jets®UB™: I know him very well. He is different like the maority. He never insults someone or provokate anybody. He is one of my favourite player cause he play fair. Like SRC and Duke he must be someone for Mod!

[JOKER]Miczi: This guy is epic. Speak very well English. Knows a lot about the game. Polite, friendly, honest and also helpful. Is in the Joker clan.


That was some player which I think were perfect for a promotion. It is only for the management to know some guys who would be able to do that. I don´t mention Gryphus, Benny, Forgive, Disco, Qwerbeet and so on, because:

Raging all the time with other players
Insulting all players who they doesn´t like
Don´t know the meaning of “Fairness”
Spam chat, break rules
Make newbies leave

I don´t want to get now pointless discussions about this post. If you have something against this tell us with SOLID ARGUMENTS.

Greetz Flashy
Probably noone of these guys would make it to the mod,only Miczi,Forgive,Benny.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: legolas3983 on November 02, 2010, 11:07:11 AM
Actually I'm really active player,but I don't see reason to admin or mod?

Gryphus_One,please stop speak bullshits for JOKER's please

And Reny I agreed with you mate,Mizci Forgive and Benny should be indeed admins ;]

Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: [V]ACE on November 02, 2010, 11:50:49 AM
Well lets set this straight. Admins see sides of players that normal players do not. Some of the people you have mentioned i KNOW have tried to get other players banned, have asked ME and other admins to ban players for them, and have tried to break rules in front of Admins because they think they "can get away with it" (because they are friends).

There are some of the reason's why some people on that list are unsuitable. Others i personally couldnt talk about (Duke for one) as i have not seen them play for very long (or they have had a name change, which is starting to really annoy me, i get to know a player and then BOOM name change and I do not know about it!).

Although cheater/rule breakers are frustrating if management/admins see a player we believe would enhance the LW team then we will have a discussion on it (in private) and decide so its fair and peer selected. Although the suggestions are good, as i say, admins see sides of players that others do not, so we get a sense if a player would abuse the position/power, break rules, etc.
Title: Re: Some points that annoy me
Post by: dugi on November 02, 2010, 03:31:16 PM
Since this thread has derailed into a "who should be a moderator/ admin" thread I'm locking it.