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Title: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 03, 2010, 03:02:01 PM
Yeah I'm thinking of creating my own server and I'm looking for someone to script it, I would pay some REAL money, the hosting service and the Hosted Tab.
The server would basically have a dm world similar to LW and a parallel world for Hydras, and later it would have other additions like minigames, duels, races and an event system.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 03, 2010, 03:49:30 PM
I don't min scripting for money. How much?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: BikeDriver on December 03, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
so glad you finally piss off. if your server gets popular i will join it and act the same way as you did on LW. cheers!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Fuse on December 03, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
I can join as co-scripter & mapper if u wanna.
How much, if you want me in the team? :)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: iMJets on December 04, 2010, 12:45:43 AM
i can map and script ill see if im interested
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: AJP on December 04, 2010, 01:14:55 AM
good luck, kinda smells like advertisement tho :X
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Alvar on December 04, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
good luck, kinda smells like advertisement tho :X
His still not banned for that?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 04, 2010, 06:48:18 AM
good luck, kinda smells like advertisement tho :X
His still not banned for that?
idk
Hes banated!? Why? lol
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Slice on December 04, 2010, 12:47:08 PM
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F5%2F55%2FDogue_de_Bordeaux_serious.jpg%2F800px-Dogue_de_Bordeaux_serious.jpg&hash=035c0c09ca162e2d49023336fed7c865406481b1)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 04, 2010, 02:56:09 PM
Ok time to start negotiating: Faraday, Simon and Jets, how much are you asking for?
Faraday, if I hire you, can you bring part of the LW script? like the duel arena and the anticheat system?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: mayhem on December 04, 2010, 02:57:13 PM
Ok time to start negotiating: Faraday, Simon and Jets, how much are you asking for?
Faraday, if I hire you, can you bring part of the LW script? like the duel arena and the anticheat system?

the fuck are you trying to do?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: robbynab on December 04, 2010, 02:58:26 PM
Faraday, if I hire you, can you bring part of the LW script? like the duel arena and the anticheat system?
trolololo

Sorry. :)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Disco on December 04, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
If youre server gets popular i will send you some flowers
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: j.king on December 04, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
>_>'

claim your ban cookie now!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 04, 2010, 03:43:56 PM
Simple answer, no. If that is your goal then count me out!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 04, 2010, 03:48:44 PM
Simple answer, no. If that is your goal then count me out!

No man my goal is just to hire a scripter, the possibility of copying part of LW was just a question, an extra.
In any case, if I create my server I want it to have a duel arena and an anticheat system (like other servers, not an exclusive LW feature), so the matter is just that if I hire you, I guess it will be easier for you to copy it from here than to rewrite it from scratch.

I don't intend to create a clon of LW but rather a different server, that would have a dm similar to LW (although with some modifications) but other added features too. Also, my server would be more focused on vehicles and not so much on foot fights.
.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: robbynab on December 04, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
Wait, so when you start your server you'll gtfo here?
I'll learn scripting asap. ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 04, 2010, 07:31:15 PM
Gryphus...men...its pointless to ask anything here from these pepels...
I suggest u SAMP forums...there are lots of free scripts...so I think ull do better on ur own...just as I did!  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Fuse on December 04, 2010, 08:39:33 PM
10 euros / week 8)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: BiG_Sm0k3 on December 04, 2010, 08:45:23 PM
10 euros / week 8)
lol
rly?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Fuse on December 04, 2010, 09:15:05 PM
not rly i want more
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 04, 2010, 10:46:01 PM
not rly i want more

fail. You can't just name any amount, then wait for replies to see how you did upon asking so much/little and then ajust your amount very vaguely.

Also, if Gryphus were any smart, he'd go find scripters on SA-MP forums, there are alot of them who can make him a script for about $ 60, fully working the way he wants. That will cost him much less than if he lets you do it at 10 euros (or more) per week.
Just my two cents. You're lucky Gryphus isn't that smart so you might just make a buck or two.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Fuse on December 05, 2010, 12:12:56 AM
i have NO idea what a script should cost, but i guess 5 euros a week is fair?
deal?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 05, 2010, 12:32:21 AM
omg pepels...u wud reely accept moneeyz for some scripts that are free to download?  gry...dont be stupid...  8)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: BikeDriver on December 05, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
hilarious topic!


Faraday, if I hire you, can you bring part of the LW script? like the duel arena and the anticheat system?

just die already!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 05, 2010, 05:04:42 AM
just die already!
GF!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Simon on December 05, 2010, 06:47:40 AM
5 euros a week is pretty much a slave wage- you might be lucky enough to be able to afford a McDonalds value meal for a weeks work! You're probably looking at about 2-4 weeks (possibly more, it's difficult to estimate) of full-time work just to get a decent game-mode base scripted up, including consulting and basic bug testing.

If you're wanting 5 euros then maybe you should just mow lawns, wash dishes, deliver papers or clip a family members toenails weekly, at least you'll get a decent compensation and won't be wasting your time.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 05, 2010, 11:56:26 AM
I suggest u SAMP forums...there are lots of free scripts...so I think ull do better on ur own...just as I did!  ;)

Wow Devilboy you have your own server??

omg pepels...u wud reely accept moneeyz for some scripts that are free to download?  gry...dont be stupid...  8)

Yeah Devilboy but I also have some projects of my own that I highly doubt someone has already scripted.

5 euros a week is pretty much a slave wage- you might be lucky enough to be able to afford a McDonalds value meal for a weeks work! You're probably looking at about 2-4 weeks (possibly more, it's difficult to estimate) of full-time work just to get a decent game-mode base scripted up, including consulting and basic bug testing.

If you're wanting 5 euros then maybe you should just mow lawns, wash dishes, deliver papers or clip a family members toenails weekly, at least you'll get a decent compensation and won't be wasting your time.

Hazard, with all my respects, I have always considered you as a coherent person, but is quite hilarious that you say all of this when at the same time you are scripting for LW FOR FREE and you mention that in your blog as a way of complaining about the many suggestions that this server has.
.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Disco on December 05, 2010, 11:59:34 AM
Could we please just ban gryphus ?
He does advertisement and spams the forum with shit ...

May we create a poll who want him removed from here ?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 05, 2010, 12:32:30 PM

Hazard, with all my respects, I have always considered you as a coherent person, but is quite hilarious that you say all of this when at the same time you are scripting for LW FOR FREE and you mention that in your blog as a way of complaining about the many suggestions that this server has.
.

Simon CREATED LW_LVDM, so fuck off already.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Dominator on December 05, 2010, 12:36:26 PM

Hazard, with all my respects, I have always considered you as a coherent person, but is quite hilarious that you say all of this when at the same time you are scripting for LW FOR FREE and you mention that in your blog as a way of complaining about the many suggestions that this server has.
.

Simon CREATED LW_LVDM, so fuck off already.
And by Simon he means Hazard, not Simon aka Fuse. And Fuse, you arent such a good scripter / mapper so you shouldnt take the money and try to create a script imo
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 05, 2010, 12:45:33 PM
Most important clans like Joker, Virus or Sae have their own servers. Who have made them?

Simon CREATED LW_LVDM, so fuck off already.

So? you give me even more reason: more work that he has done for free, but at the same time he tells Fuse that he should ask for more money.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 05, 2010, 12:54:34 PM
Ofcourse because Simon (Hazard) created LVDM for himself, not for anyone else. littlewhitey helped on the gamemode and they decided to use that gamemode (LVDM) for littlewhitey's server. Simple as that.

As dominator said, FuseZ isn't really that good, so you script would be full of rendundant, memory gabbing code which would make gameplay laggy, and which won't attract players.

Clanservers are mostly edits from released gamemodes, or simple gamemodes made from scratch. Clanserver gamemodes don't have the purpose to attract alot of players, so it doesn't always have the safest anticheat or the most dynamic systems. Joker's server was made by TuneFish afaik, SAE's is an edit of MOB's gamemode (I think), an V's was made by Nado (not sure). Made by people from the clan for the clan, which they didn't get paid for. If you really want someone to make you what you want than you'll have to pay.
And since you're paying, I'd suggest you plan out a decent scheme and look for good scripters, which will cost u much less. If you want a professional devteam or a decent scripter you'll have to do some work yourself, you'll have to provide a SVN repository, set up an FTP server, get forums, pay for decent server hosting, or get a VPS, and get a decent administration team.
Going like: "hey I pay you, make me a gamemode", won't work, unless with ppl like Fusze I guess.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Fuse on December 05, 2010, 01:51:49 PM
V's was made by Nado (not sure)
The gamemode was created by Ella and i have developed it the last 2 years

Sorry for doublepost!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 05, 2010, 01:52:57 PM
Ella = Nado
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 05, 2010, 01:54:48 PM
So Faraday, are you definitely out of my project?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 05, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
Yeah Gryphus...I have my own server...but its not online!  :D

Anyway...why u hate Gry? He only asked for a help...and he offer money for it...! I would be happy to accept that offer! lol...u ask why I dont help him?...well I dont have time...and will to do something like that... I offered my help on LW...but noone gives a damn..! So fuke scripting..Im playor! (Forever A Nub)  8)

btw. I told u Gry...simply steal scripts from SAMP forums...!
and edit it to or own ideas  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on December 05, 2010, 02:42:49 PM
If i knew how to script, Id seriously be asking atleast 60 bucks a week.

And asking for parts of the LW gamemode is like, trying to have a conversation with a lamppost.

Like AJP said before this smells like advertising.

That he even dares asking on LW forums i dont know why, but LW itself is already low on scripters.

My 2 cents: I would have banned him for this idiocy of even attempting to ask this shit on LW forums.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on December 05, 2010, 05:07:35 PM
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dont feed the troll
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: S3rs on December 05, 2010, 05:14:01 PM
this topic is full of homosexuality
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Faraday on December 05, 2010, 05:17:44 PM
Yeah Gryphus...I have my own server...but its not online!  :D

Anyway...why u hate Gry? He only asked for a help...and he offer money for it...! I would be happy to accept that offer! lol...u ask why I dont help him?...well I dont have time...and will to do something like that... I offered my help on LW...but noone gives a damn..! So fuke scripting..Im playor! (Forever A Nub)  8)

btw. I told u Gry...simply steal scripts from SAMP forums...!
and edit it to or own ideas  ;)
The fact that you talk about stealing scripts and editing, is the perfect answer as to why we don't want your help
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 05, 2010, 07:11:58 PM
Yeah Faraday but think about one simple thing: at first you were interested, and you only have been out when I spoke about copying some LW features. However, imagine that I haden't mentioned that and I had hired you, and once you had started working, I had told you that I want an anticheat system and a duel arena, without mentioning LW at all (quite normal, many servers have those two features so it would have been very logical that I wanted them for my server too). I supposse that in case of me not mentioning LW, you wouldn't have left the project, so does anyone here believe that you would have rewritten these two features from scratch, instead of copying them from LW? ::)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: robbynab on December 05, 2010, 07:50:41 PM
so does anyone here believe that you would have rewritten these two features from scratch, instead of copying them from LW? ::)
I do believe.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Simon on December 05, 2010, 11:28:11 PM
Simon CREATED LW_LVDM, so fuck off already.

So? you give me even more reason: more work that he has done for free, but at the same time he tells Fuse that he should ask for more money.

Yes, you miss the point. 5 euros a week is cheap (http://www.drawar.com/posts/two-choices-for-rates-and-cheap-isnt-one-of-them).

I worked on LW_LVDM because I enjoy what I was doing, my work on littlewhitey's gamemode is what I consider a donation to littlewhitey because of all the resources he had put into providing me with fun times in both SA-MP and VC-MP. He never told me what to do because it was a gift, I set the expectations and that is the key difference between working for free and working for money.

Working for money means that the payee will have leverage over the scripter, making decisions, changing their mind once things are implemented, being an outright twat etc.

Your post goes to show that you're angry for suggesting more than 5 euros a week. Why? Is that because that's the rough figure you had in mind!? Haha, if scripters in littlewhitey's community want to be treated like turd because they're working for cheap then that's their problem; I'm just warning because it seems that all the other stuff is being overlooked -- you aren't going to be in fantasy scripting world once you accept money.

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dont feed the troll

Haha, well assuming Gryphus is serious. It seems this topic has shown exactly how it will be to work for Gryphus. Just bloody amazing I bet. The only reason money was offered was to attract people, because I doubt any decent scripter would work for Gryphus out of their free will.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Devilboy665 on December 06, 2010, 12:20:07 AM
The fact that you talk about stealing scripts and editing, is the perfect answer as to why we don't want your help
What!?
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on December 06, 2010, 02:20:54 AM
Yeah Faraday but think about one simple thing: at first you were interested, and you only have been out when I spoke about copying some LW features. However, imagine that I haden't mentioned that and I had hired you, and once you had started working, I had told you that I want an anticheat system and a duel arena, without mentioning LW at all (quite normal, many servers have those two features so it would have been very logical that I wanted them for my server too). I supposse that in case of me not mentioning LW, you wouldn't have left the project, so does anyone here believe that you would have rewritten these two features from scratch, instead of copying them from LW? ::)

If he didnt made them from scratch he would be breaking copyright laws and a lawsuit would most likely follow and since you would be paying him (being his employer) You would take the blame.

You seriously havent taken anything in consideration or thought about anything at all. Do us all a favour kid. And be on your merry way outta here. You dont think before you act. This topic has shown that from top to toe.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: iMJets on December 06, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
i think im out because of this the fact that im working on my own gamemode atm srry, really means i dont want more work to do  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Sjitty on December 06, 2010, 11:37:50 AM
this topic is freakn hilarious :p too stupid for a comment. haha

grtz

Sjitty
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Dominator on December 06, 2010, 11:51:23 AM
i think im out because of this the fact that im working on my own gamemode atm srry, really means i dont want more work to do  ;)
you wouldnt be good enough anyways..you should only accept these ''jobs'' if you are actually good at scripting (i.e hazard, faraday, slice)
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Gryphus_One on December 06, 2010, 11:53:11 AM
Ok no problem kids, in another server I have found someone that seems to have very good scripting skills, he has shown me his own server and has some awesome features. The world doesn't end in LW.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Slice on December 06, 2010, 11:54:27 AM
Ok no problem kids, in another server I have found someone that seems to have very good scripting skills, he has shown me his own server and has some awesome features. The world doesn't end in LW.
LW is the world.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Sjitty on December 06, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
There is a world beyond LW?!?!?!?!? :O
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Simon on December 06, 2010, 12:14:41 PM
There is a world beyond LW?!?!?!?!? :O

Don't be silly.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on December 06, 2010, 12:37:14 PM
The Best scripters R belong to LW!

Also Sjitty u furreal?!?!?! is there another world out there !!

/me ventures into space where no LW'er has gone before!
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Reny on December 06, 2010, 04:12:55 PM
The Best scripters R belong to LW!

Also Sjitty u furreal?!?!?! is there another world out there !!

/me ventures into space where no LW'er has gone before!
Amen.
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: j.king on December 07, 2010, 06:56:29 PM
SAE's is an edit of MOB's gamemode (I think)

nah, Force and his brother made it :p
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: [LW][KFJ]Zegro REPRESENT on December 11, 2010, 06:40:52 AM
nah, Force and his brother made it :p

based off of NB's original AAD Rumble script, which was either the basis for MOB's Warzone script or vice versa iirc

on topic: gtfo gryphus
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: Me[T]aL_ on February 03, 2011, 01:00:52 AM
i r work fer 15 euros is gud script men promis on hert
Title: Re: Recruiting scripters (I pay REAL mon€y$)
Post by: iMJets on February 03, 2011, 01:15:07 AM
i r work fer 15 euros is gud script men promis on hert

useless topic bump is useless!

REALLY?