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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: »NighTKilleR« on April 18, 2012, 05:35:46 PM

Title: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: »NighTKilleR« on April 18, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
Every time i want to play in LW's there no players im gonna call players every time i see 0 players just for u guys to know i hate seeing the server empty
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: PawnFox on April 18, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
old news ...  :D
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: »NighTKilleR« on April 18, 2012, 06:24:35 PM
Pawn :d Yeah old :P
/Nos ok than see u in July :D
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 19, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
The subjective empty server problem:

*server is empty
*user opens client and sees: server is empty
*user thinks: server is empty = boring (which is actually true)
*user does not join server because it's boring
*propably many users do this ^
*if they would all have joined server would be full.

I've experienced that effect very often.
Most players just search for some quick fun, because they just have some spare time.
They will obviously choose a full server rather then a empty one.
Normally in that moment, focused on the self-entertainment, no-one bears in mind that there may be players worldwide searching for the same purpose.
That's why regular players are so important for servers, because they most propably will join regardless the playercount.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Swanson on April 19, 2012, 10:01:45 AM
Maybe a change of playground (from Las Venturas to Los Santos) will help. Oh wait, I already suggested that before and nobody cared. Now why should I care about an empty server that doesn't care about my funlevel.

@ Enzo

You can't seriously expect regulars to stay regular in this scenario although what you said sounds adorable. The server needs changes. Period.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 19, 2012, 10:25:39 AM
@masterbeef:

yes that's right. what i said was ment more in general, not exclusively bound to littlewhitey's.

I honestly do not see any changes in the future yet, and i doubt that changes will have any effect after such long time.

As you said regulars do not stay regulars under the given circumstances, and how do players become regulars? because they like the server, it brings fun, and they are a integrated part of the community. Regulars are gone -> no community, even if they come back for an update there's no community left to integrate in. They'd have to build a new community. And atm i really don't see much people willing to try and do so.

That's how it seems to be from my point of view. Even if we still have 20 players online on sundays - it's dead.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: »NighTKilleR« on April 19, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
@Enzo ill make LW's full youll see
Masterbeef that maybe a good idea
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 19, 2012, 10:30:14 AM
@MaddoxX I'll be yearningly awaiting that day.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: »NighTKilleR« on April 19, 2012, 10:40:22 AM
@Enzo Ok youll see that day
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: PawnFox on April 19, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
The subjective empty server problem:

*server is empty
*user opens client and sees: server is empty
*user thinks: server is empty = boring (which is actually true)
*user does not join server because it's boring
*propably many users do this ^
*if they would all have joined server would be full.

I've experienced that effect very often.
Most players just search for some quick fun, because they just have some spare time.
They will obviously choose a full server rather then a empty one.
Normally in that moment, focused on the self-entertainment, no-one bears in mind that there may be players worldwide searching for the same purpose.
That's why regular players are so important for servers, because they most propably will join regardless the playercount.

True story.

LW's needs alot of changes, but as i see, Developers gived up .. i mean they doesn't care anymore ..  :'(
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 19, 2012, 01:26:33 PM
@pawn: developers giving up does not imply that they don't care anymore. Read what they wrote: They gave up because management didn't seem to care anymore.
If you'd worked really hard on a script and no-one cares that doesn't mean you don't care anymore.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Disco on April 19, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
hahaha deleting my post cause no one wanna play on ure shitty server ! HiLARIOUS!
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: PawnFox on April 19, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
[...] shitty server ! HiLARIOUS!

Go away then, noone will miss you  :P
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Quickplay on April 19, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
hahaha deleting my post cause no one wanna play on ure shitty server ! HiLARIOUS!
besides the fact that i don't understand why you keep coming here, since you say you don't like LW, but then why do i sometimes see you playing in there?  ???
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on April 19, 2012, 06:21:52 PM
.... The server needs changes. Period...

http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,16538.0.html

Not gonna happen.

It has been tried to change the server probably about 3 times now. First Simon, then slice, then Simon and Faraday.

I got no hope in/for the person who is next in line for a new LW LVDM.

As what pawnfox said Developers, Management and most of the admins simply dont care anymore. Some of these actually told me on IRC like 1 or 2 years ago that they don't care about LW anymore.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: n1K on April 19, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
EVERYONE KNOWS WHY LW IS EMPTY. LOCK THIS DRAMA ALREADY  :-X
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Disco on April 19, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
hahaha deleting my post cause no one wanna play on ure shitty server ! HiLARIOUS!
besides the fact that i don't understand why you keep coming here, since you say you don't like LW, but then why do i sometimes see you playing in there?  ???

I know this may sounds now rly unbelieveable but sometimes there are not only fools on the server, then i join the server to meet this 0,001% cool players that are left here ;)
Dont worry i dont join because i enjoy playing here so much, just for some chat, thats it .
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: BikeDriver on April 19, 2012, 08:48:30 PM
I know this may sounds now rly unbelieveable but sometimes there are not only fools on the server, then i join the server to meet this 0,001% cool players that are left here ;)
Dont worry i dont join because i enjoy playing here so much, just for some chat, thats it .

and while doing "just some chat" you accidently scored 21.791 kills?
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: â–ºBuRNZâ„¢ on April 20, 2012, 12:55:10 AM
I know this may sounds now rly unbelieveable but sometimes there are not only fools on the server, then i join the server to meet this 0,001% cool players that are left here ;)
Dont worry i dont join because i enjoy playing here so much, just for some chat, thats it .

and while doing "just some chat" you accidently scored 21.791 kills?

simply collateral damage lol
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Slide on April 20, 2012, 01:14:56 PM
@Enzo ill make LW's full youll see
Masterbeef that maybe a good idea

Can't wait anymore for that day!  ::)
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: PawnFox on April 20, 2012, 01:41:01 PM
@Enzo ill make LW's full youll see
Masterbeef that maybe a good idea

Can't wait anymore for that day!  ::)

Wow, what a cool dream, LW Full again ..  :-[  :-X
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on April 20, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
If people dont like the Gamemode they wont stick around. Even if you succeeded into gettin the server full once more. They will leave because the GM sucks. Maybe 1 out of 20 might stay. So yea keep dreaming.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on April 21, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
I used to actively participate in discussion like this one, but after 10000 times trying even someone as dumb as me gets that this is pointless. The people who could or can change anything, won't do it. That's it guys.



Yep, it finally happened, even I lost faith.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: redtalent on April 21, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
Maybe you should add some features that encourage people to get more people on the server (dno how hard this is to add):

-This could be a feature, or simply an admin just counting and sending cash:
When you create a race, you get given $100,000 for each participant when the race begins to re-invest

-You recieve $50,000 for every individual you successfully invite to your gang (again, admins could just count and send for this)

-If someone wants to buy your property - they have to fight/duel you for it
You could also do a thing where gangs can buy properties too, not just individuals. Like taking over a territory with a property on it or summin

-More things to spend extra cash on in general
Its easy enough making money - spending it is the difficult thing
I'd be gutted if I won $30 mil in the casino, cos there's not much to spend it on other than:
Races
More gambling
More props
City Planning Department

(Im talking things that take up significant amounts of money)

But yeah, all good things must come to an end. Everything has its era, has its run in life. President's can't stay in power forever, companies can't be successful forever. Sports teams can't dominate forever. LW had its time a few years back, its probably just the end of its era. But to be fair its no that bad, I still see 20-30 people on sometimes. Yeah its not 200 people but meh, get used to it. Still, adding some more features could help, especially more things to spend cash on and encouraging people to bring their friends.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 21, 2012, 10:58:22 PM
errrrr
well ty for the time to think about and write all this, redtalent, but i'm sorry to tell you that you wasted your time.
There are definitely no changes coming in conceivable time. (Atleast from my point of view, which i believe is objective in this case)

What you say about the 'era LW' is true, and what you said about the features is right and i totally agree.

But pointing it out once again does not help any, neither does pulling players to it neither does this topic,
and this goes to all:

I know it's hard to understand as we all been here for so long and know this place so well, had found and lost good friends and had a lot of fun and a good time. But still we cannot deny the undeniable:

It's over.

All these things had been said before.
Saying all these things had no effect at all before.
It has not been cared about all these things before.
All these things do not make a difference now either.

There's nothing we can do. All i can say is: Let's not argue where's nothing left to argue about.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on April 22, 2012, 11:46:25 AM
Redtalent, I really believe that features would help. Unluckily it's not about what features should be implemented, but who would implement them. And that goes further: who would like to script for a server which is not managed at all?

The direct cause of the low playercount is the oldfashioned, boring gamemode indeed, but the whole problem, the thing that brought us to such situation is much more complex and thus much more difficult to resolve.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: »NighTKilleR« on April 22, 2012, 03:02:51 PM
[SWK]Slide yeah i can't wait 2 :)
[V]Pawnfox it won't be a dream with some help we will make LW's full again(i hope)
Readtalent that would be great but...
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: PawnFox on April 22, 2012, 03:11:53 PM
Dude, you can't change nothing by posting here.
Developers said: "LW_LVDM v3 - Cancelled".
Without a new update we can't do anything.

Just play and see how lw's will die.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: n1K on April 22, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
I guess Disco is a bit right after all.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: ankit on April 22, 2012, 04:47:02 PM
Well, i never get into such arguments. But, i  have been seeing all these arguments for over 2 years now( i guess) and all these just end up in blaming each other. If development could have been done then it would be cool and now since there is no more development then also its cool for all those who just want to play and have fun. I still don't get it why people are just hating, arguing for over the stuff that they know very well. They besides knowing it fight and argue like anything, which won't get them or will help them in making things go right or what they want.

Everything has it's time, at once a newly bought cellphone could be very cool and full of exciting things but that same cellphone goes boring after a year or maybe earlier. So, it happens with all the things even on humans too and after all its a server then how can it be the same they way it was before. Things need to be understood and get into the mind set of the people rather than sticking their nose and striking their heads with each other. And many people who get into these type of arguments and topics are not even playing anymore and are also not concerned(thats what they say themselves), then why they just want to share their thoughts over these kinds of topics.

I respect and i know there are some of the guys that quarrels wants to or can help the server in its development or anything related to the server, but whats the use when they don't want you. Its worthless for them to waste their time for these type of arguments and also loosing respects. Instead they should find a better playground that is full of grass instead of playing in mud. They know what they capable of and how they can help others, so try there instead. I know i am no-one to say or suggest anything, but i am just trying to make a point and expressing myself. It's been so long i have been seeing these arguments and topic ad honestly i never replied to any of them. Now, today i just couldn't control myself and typed what i think.

In short, just let the things the way they are going, maybe they have something in their mind or maybe not or maybe they are not concerned anymore or they are just too busy or whatever it is. Try not to get these arguments started over and over again endlessly because these arguments have no end and will go on forever until this forum is alive. Instead replying over these arguments again and again and wasting your those 5-10 minutes, we can actually save that for some important stuff. And cmon if you really want to spent those 5-10 minutes on forums participate in topic off-topics. Well, after a long i actually said what i wanted to from a long time.

Peace.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on April 22, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
Noone arues, it's okay as long as there is peace and love ;p and offtopic topics are booring. I've never denied that management did a great job here for years, and I'm grateful for the fun I had here. But there are still people who spend a lot of effort into finding out why the server is dying and solving it, since I was doing the same not so long ago and failed, they deserve to be saved from wasting their time. As you said, Hardy, I think we just have to let it go, but I see no harm in discussing it - hey, my english would be even worse If I hadn't answered such topics for years :P
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: n1K on April 22, 2012, 07:16:26 PM
Well i guess they haven't lost interest in samp. They have just lost interest in LW because so many of scripters/admins are working on their own servers. Its pity seeing that but on the other hand its understandable. Who would want to script for a server that is so cluttered and mismanaged?? Its time to move on to other server folks, believe me! Even though LW was my origin as a samp player, but its time..!

So, i guess its just going to be a matter of time when LW will be down all of a sudden because donations are going down as people hardly play here and also i dont think how long management will keep spending money on hosting it if they dont care about it and dont want to continue further with this project. I never wanted to say this but we all are totally disappointed LWs management, totally! They could have just asked for whatever they wanted to get scripted and i bet so many helping hands would have come forward. I dont wanna make this a long speech.

But (all of you guys because of whom LW is dead) fuck you! Also, please dont write "its sad LW is dying therefore we are discontinuing this and that" because LW is dying as you guys never bothered to take a second look about it.  :-X
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: iMJets on April 22, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
old news. the server has been empty for awhile now because a lot of the older players have grown out of it, and etc..
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on April 22, 2012, 08:59:09 PM
Well don't be to hard on management (and that says me who was of that opinion some time now).
Many things went wrong and it's not completely managements fault,
as hardy said no-one and everyone is guilty, blaming anyone does not make anything better.

It's not that management does not care at all, they just fixed /kill-spams and reactivated the NPC-bots today.
Maybe it's a late understanding, maybe they've never been gone, but what's most sure is that they can't be held liable alone for what happened.
Maybe it just was the server's time to say goodbye.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on April 23, 2012, 02:48:27 AM
Its quite obvious management does not care anymore. Nothing got done when they started to lose players. Not a finger got lifted (atleast none that we could see). There was hardly any communication comming from within management towards the community.

If there is one to blame it is them. They did not care about losing players then and they still dont care now. Otherwise we would have had a new gamemode long ago. And it would have been pushed through.

The only guy from management that did care was/is Simon. He had help from others but it was just not enough to motivate and continue i guess.

We can bitch and moan about this all day and all week long. But at the end of it nothing comes out of it. Just like politics.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: prescoa1 on May 02, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
management cares.. they just have other responsibilities and have moved on from the game. They aren't involved enough to be able to meet the needs of the long gone server
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: redtalent on May 14, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
errrrr
well ty for the time to think about and write all this, redtalent, but i'm sorry to tell you that you wasted your time.
There are definitely no changes coming in conceivable time. (Atleast from my point of view, which i believe is objective in this case)

What you say about the 'era LW' is true, and what you said about the features is right and i totally agree.

But pointing it out once again does not help any, neither does pulling players to it neither does this topic,
and this goes to all:

I know it's hard to understand as we all been here for so long and know this place so well, had found and lost good friends and had a lot of fun and a good time. But still we cannot deny the undeniable:

It's over.

All these things had been said before.
Saying all these things had no effect at all before.
It has not been cared about all these things before.
All these things do not make a difference now either.

There's nothing we can do. All i can say is: Let's not argue where's nothing left to argue about.

True, but there can be development without development if you know what i mean :P

There can be minor changes to the server without a need to change the script etc.

Like admins participating in new changes such as giving race hosters money to re-invest depending on number of participants

Maybe admins could even offer more things to spend money on, like giving players previously 'banned' weapons such as miniguns, RPGs and tanks in return for large amounts of cash

I think despite the end of the official development admins can still play a big part in changing the server for the good

The server will never be full like the old days but it can still improve, it's been alright the past week or so as well, relatively healthy influx of players recently.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on May 15, 2012, 06:28:31 AM
Maybe admins could even offer more things to spend money on, like giving players previously 'banned' weapons such as miniguns, RPGs and tanks in return for large amounts of cash
lol. ^^
You wish xD
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on May 15, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
Even though admins are willing to organise such things, to somehow omit the limitations of gameplay to introduce something new, it is not that easy. We could give weapons you mentioned (even though I don't think it's a good idea) except tanks, but every crash, lose of connection etc. would get you banned if we did it by commands. We could organise for example prizes for the gang which gets the biggest amount of turfs, but we can't really count the turfs, only "more or less" by looking at the map. And we could reward players with money for races, for mentioned gang wars, winning events and such but... what would we give them? Money? They don't need it. Weapons? They don't need it either. Miniguns and RPGs? Only in a package with free ban by LWbot :P The only reward which works almost as well as if it was scripted, is spawn armour.

Events make sense when winners can be rewarded well, cause then participants really want to win. If it comes to minor changes in the script don't look at me, I can't script for shit :P
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Swanson on May 15, 2012, 01:13:16 PM
I'm not familiar with Pawn but I'm sure there should be someone in this community who can write a script that creates a special group of players, which excludes them from being autobanned when they have forbidden weapons. So when an admin makes an event, he can add players to that group, and all those players have some amount of exclusive rights and they all can enjoy the event without getting banned.

But now I'm thinking of it, who am I talking to and what the hell do I know :D
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on May 15, 2012, 01:23:02 PM
I'm not familiar with Pawn but I'm sure there should be someone in this community who can write a script that creates a special group of players, which excludes them from being autobanned when they have forbidden weapons. So when an admin makes an event, he can add players to that group, and all those players have some amount of exclusive rights and they all can enjoy the event without getting banned.

But now I'm thinking of it, who am I talking to and what the hell do I know :D
Ofcourse this can be made and surely there are people in the community who can do this.
But tell them to talk with Popz about it, go ahead. You'll see his reply. :3
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Swanson on May 15, 2012, 01:33:39 PM
I think Popz doesn't care that's why I drop my shit here, that won't do any harm. It's just an idea anyone can pick up if they feel like, no obligations :)
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: prescoa1 on May 15, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
it's been said many times, the script is very old and messy and when you modify things you break other things. THAT is why they wanted to restart the script, or restructure it at the very least. Some people judge things without any information at all
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: n1K on May 15, 2012, 04:39:35 PM
FIND ANOTHR GAME FRINDS!  :D
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Me[T]aL_ on May 15, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
i'ma start playing here again i miss the good old times in this server from wars at nam to mindless trolling and shit ig ugh i miss old lw's :'( specially lag team OcB
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: [JOKER]Miczi on May 15, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
I'm not familiar with Pawn but I'm sure there should be someone in this community who can write a script that creates a special group of players, which excludes them from being autobanned when they have forbidden weapons. So when an admin makes an event, he can add players to that group, and all those players have some amount of exclusive rights and they all can enjoy the event without getting banned.

But now I'm thinking of it, who am I talking to and what the hell do I know :D

Such script actually works :P The problem happens when a player leaves the server and returns within 5 min - they are not in the group anymore AND they do still have forbidden weapons = ban. But ye, I know what you mean, it's a shame that we can't even have such a minor improvement added  :-\
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: prescoa1 on May 15, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
i'ma start playing here again i miss the good old times in this server from wars at nam to mindless trolling and shit ig ugh i miss old lw's :'( specially lag team OcB
lol well you're going to continue missing it, regardless you play or not.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Me[T]aL_ on May 16, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
i'ma start playing here again i miss the good old times in this server from wars at nam to mindless trolling and shit ig ugh i miss old lw's :'( specially lag team OcB
lol well you're going to continue missing it, regardless you play or not.
Ofcourse but their is always room for new memories :o
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sleep on May 18, 2012, 04:43:08 PM
I think that this topic is useless cuz all know that LW is empty  :'(
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: M3TR4KIT on May 27, 2012, 03:09:46 PM
i'ma start playing here again i miss the good old times in this server from wars at nam to mindless trolling and shit ig ugh i miss old lw's :'( specially lag team OcB
you are the lager >:(
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Quickplay on May 27, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
@Enzo ill make LW's full youll see
mmh...
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Slide on May 27, 2012, 08:43:57 PM
@Enzo ill make LW's full youll see
mmh...

Still waiting ...
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sultan on May 27, 2012, 09:31:38 PM
Quote
Little Whitey's empty

Yes because slide banning all players :D

My reason:

"Just guessing u hack too " lol
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Slide on May 27, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
Lol

[TRL]Scout
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: EnzoMortelli on May 27, 2012, 10:14:38 PM
:o we gotta watch better on f*****s, they seem to come from everywhere yet they are the same person.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sultan on May 27, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
Lol

[TRL]Scout

Yeah 2 years ago. :(
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: BikeDriver on May 27, 2012, 10:48:13 PM
sultan i think your singature is a little over the limit... :o
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Slide on May 27, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Yeah 2 years ago. :(

http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,16695.0.html

07 May 2012? Is that 2 years?

Just give up  :)
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: BikeDriver on May 28, 2012, 05:48:39 AM
lol lw seems to be full of retards lately..

maybe i should join in......? :P
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sultan on May 28, 2012, 02:10:58 PM
Quote
Little Whitey's empty

Yes because slide banning all players :D

My reason:

"Just guessing u hack too " lol

shut the fuck up you moron. You repaired your car to avoid getting killed when i was on the roof shooting you. i was hoping to have a second chance to make a video but i see you got caught anyway even before i could install fraps. well, all cheaters get busted sooner or later.(ask available  ;D)
i don't know what is worst, your ability for hiding your hacks and coming with shit excuses or your "design" skills.

I think a hacker doesn't work hard at a server or would be his friend. i dont know admins what do they think, im not hacker my friends know this but no one understands me... im sad for this.
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: BikeDriver on May 28, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
oh jesus sultan.. get a life. and i really dont say that often..
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sultan on May 28, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
oh jesus sultan.. get a life. and i really dont say that often..

yes i agree :D it was a beg :D
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: n1K on May 28, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
Sultan your signature occupies like whole of the page. Someone disable it please.  >:(
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Faye on May 28, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
Sultan your signature occupies like whole of the page. Someone disable it please.  >:(
lmao I agree
Title: Re: Little Whitey's empty
Post by: Sultan on May 28, 2012, 07:06:59 PM
Sultan your signature occupies like whole of the page. Someone disable it please.  >:(
Sultan your signature occupies like whole of the page. Someone disable it please.  >:(

Lol edited.