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Other => Off-Topic => Technical Support => Topic started by: [eVo]PvtBenny on August 09, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
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Ok i got a decision to make for school concerning a laptop and i got no more than 1000 euro to spend on it.
CPU: Quadcore (i7 or something)
Videocard: Atleast 1Gb or more
RAM: 6gb or more
Screen: 16 inch or more, non-glare (no mirror effect)
Resolution: 1920x1080
I had seen a laptop with a GT630m that had a 17,3inch screen and also a laptop with a GT650m that had a 15,6inch screen both at 1920x1080. And both had the same CPU, RAM and both where 929 euro. If anyone can help me find the best laptop out there would be great as i will need it a lot like running virtual machines do some heavy graphic stuff etc etc (besides gaming).
I have never had a laptop myself.
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Unless you actually need awesome performance in a portable device then reconsider a powerful laptop. The idea sounds good but they're bloody annoying... main issues are that they are heavy, slow to boot, awkward to whip out and can have bad battery life.. especially if you are after performance.
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Unless you actually need awesome performance in a portable device then reconsider a powerful laptop. The idea sounds good but they're bloody annoying... main issues are that they are heavy, slow to boot, awkward to whip out and can have bad battery life.. especially if you are after performance.
I need a laptop for school its mandatory otherwise they wont allow me to participate in the education. They said minimum of 1GB video, minimum of 6GB RAM, And i personally would like quadcore.
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I would rather have thought of a less expensive desktop and a laptop. You get a lot more for your money by buying a desktop for far less money, so you may want to buy an affordable laptop for school and your studies. Just a suggestion.
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I would rather have thought of a less expensive desktop and a laptop. You get a lot more for your money by buying a desktop for far less money, so you may want to buy an affordable laptop for school and your studies. Just a suggestion.
Like i said i need a powerful laptop for school (it is mandatory cant start school without it) as we will use it at school for running virtual machines and graphic intensive programs.
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ASUS G75VW 17.3" Full HD
GeForce GTX670 3GB,Core i7-3610QM,8GB RAM,750GB SSD/HDD,DVD±RW,BT,W7H.
Would have been a very good choice. Lots of power and well-known quality from Asus.
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ASUS G75VW 17.3" Full HD
GeForce GTX670 3GB,Core i7-3610QM,8GB RAM,750GB SSD/HDD,DVD±RW,BT,W7H.
Would have been a very good choice. Lots of power and well-known quality from Asus.
What website did you find that on? because most i see with a similar setup from Asus are GT630m or GT650m not GTX670
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ASUS G75VW 17.3" Full HD
GeForce GTX670 3GB,Core i7-3610QM,8GB RAM,750GB SSD/HDD,DVD±RW,BT,W7H.
Would have been a very good choice. Lots of power and well-known quality from Asus.
What website did you find that on? because most i see with a similar setup from Asus are GT630m or GT650m not GTX670
Hmm. Where do you wanna buy it from?
Found it on a Swedish website. Sweden is an expensive country, so expect that it is a bit cheaper elsewhere. Look on eBay for example. It comes with the GTX660 as well, but perform poorly compared to 670
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Im from the Netherlands.
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Difficult for me to find such sites. Is it necessary to buy from eBay for you?
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Doesn't matter but isn't ebay like second hand stuff ?
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Anyway i think i have found mine.
CPU: i7 3610QM
RAM: 8GB
GFX: Geforce GT650m 2GB
Screen: 15,6Inch matte
Res: 1920x1080
HDD: 750gb 7200rpm
for 929 euro
Most logical choice
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lenovo Y580 is the best choice out there right now. but you will have to buy the 1.100€ version because only that one offers full HD.
Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM (up to3,3 GHz), Quad-Core
39,6 cm (15") Full HD 16:9 LED Display, Webcam
8 GB RAM, 1 TB + 32 GB SSD, Blu-ray Disc ROM/DVD burner
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M (2048 MB), HDMI, USB 3.0, WLAN-n, BT
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lenovo Y580 is the best choice out there right now. but you will have to buy the 1.100€ version because only that one offers full HD.
Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM (up to3,3 GHz), Quad-Core
39,6 cm (15") Full HD 16:9 LED Display, Webcam
8 GB RAM, 1 TB + 32 GB SSD, Blu-ray Disc ROM/DVD burner
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M (2048 MB), HDMI, USB 3.0, WLAN-n, BT
Yea i found that one as well this morning and i am already leaning towards the lenovo one.
The one i found has a 64gb SSD and 1TB HDD at 5400 RPM (i would rather have 7200 but considering it has a SSD im alright with that) And i like that it has a bluray player as well. And it has the Windows 8 ready thingy for 14,99 so ill probably upgrade to that as well.
Edit:
Theres one downside the screen is not matte or non-glare. Itll have this mirror effect and you will have trouble if you sit outside and use it. But that is just a minor downside.
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i haz the 1100 monies y580.
i ripped out the SSD and HDD and put in a 256GB ssd. now you dont hear it anymore.. seriously.. it makes no sound.
the 32gb ssd is crap and the OS is NOT on the ssd yet on the really slow HDD. its a hard decision. also there is no second HDD slot. meh.
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The one i found is this one.
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/316165/lenovo-y580-m772cmh.html#tab:info (http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/316165/lenovo-y580-m772cmh.html#tab:info)
I think its a Dutch edition i"m not completely sure.
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strange......... 64gb ssd?
maybe you can get the OS on it? also why you get bigger SSD for same price? you bitch :)
buy it but formate it and put the OS on the ssd.. :P
my opinion.
Y580= best value for money out there when it comes down to laptops (its BRAND NEW, came out like 2 weeks ago)
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Yea man :P Im going to get it. Ive convinced my parents its the best choice. The only 2 downsides so far for this laptop. Is that the screen is not anti-glare and that the HDD runs at 5400rpm instead of 7200rpm which makes it slower. But ive already set my mind on getting a new HDD for it when its christmas and that will either be a large SSD or a 1TB 7200rpm laptop hdd.
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yea thats a good decision.
if you stumble across an error when you try to install the lenovo nvidia driver then i can help you. because there was an error with mine :P
you are going to format it entirely, right?
i haz the Samsung MZ-7PC256B/WW 256GB SSD. its ok. HD Tune says something like 350MB/s (even though the OS is on the same SSD, resulting in lower speed test results)
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yea thats a good decision.
if you stumble across an error when you try to install the lenovo nvidia driver then i can help you. because there was an error with mine :P
you are going to format it entirely, right?
i haz the Samsung MZ-7PC256B/WW 256GB SSD. its ok. HD Tune says something like 350MB/s (even though the OS is on the same SSD, resulting in lower speed test results)
I probably will. But will i be able to install a new copy of Windows 7 professional 64-bit again ? I would probably go for a SSD that does 550mb/s read and 500mb/s write. Prices will be much better by that time i am getting it which is at around christmas time.
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But will i be able to install a new copy of Windows 7 professional 64-bit again ? I would probably go for a SSD that does 550mb/s read and 500mb/s write. Prices will be much better by that time i am getting it which is at around christmas time.
no, not professional.
its called Home Premium. i was able to activate it with my key from below the laptop. but why wait till christmas? :)
you a kiddo? :o
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But will i be able to install a new copy of Windows 7 professional 64-bit again ? I would probably go for a SSD that does 550mb/s read and 500mb/s write. Prices will be much better by that time i am getting it which is at around christmas time.
no, not professional.
its called Home Premium. i was able to activate it with my key from below the laptop. but why wait till Christmas? :)
you a kiddo? :o
I am not a kiddo. But usually around Christmas stuff gets cheaper because people will buy crap anyway. And i barely have the funds to spend another 200 euro on an SSD for a new laptop right now. And i still have other things for school to pay like supplies and shit. Also mine comes with Windows 7 Professional 64bit i think.
EDIT:
i was wrong, it comes with Home Premium 64bit
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Home Premium is fine for a laptop so I wouldn't fret too much over that. However, depending on what you are doing at school you may be able to get Windows 7 Enterprise for free (legally) through the MSDN Academic Alliance. It may be worth enquiring about that. There is also DreamSpark (https://www.dreamspark.com/) for anyone with a tertiary email address, but it doesn't include Windows.
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Home Premium is fine for a laptop so I wouldn't fret too much over that. However, depending on what you are doing at school you may be able to get Windows 7 Enterprise for free (legally) through the MSDN Academic Alliance. It may be worth enquiring about that. There is also DreamSpark (https://www.dreamspark.com/) for anyone with a tertiary email address, but it doesn't include Windows.
I know it does not really matter. And i think i could get it free through school. Ill be doing IT at school so it will be highly likely to get that windows copy and probably other versions as well.
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I just bought the laptop today. And i am very happy that i did, its really fast, i like the keyboard layout a lot including the numpad being separate from the rest (not like the older laptops) Love that you can change screen brightness just with a push on 2 buttons (FN key and arrow keys) And i love the back light of the keyboard as well. I tried to use the laptop outside but all i could see was my face. But when would i actually use the laptop outside pretty much never to be fair.
@Simon,
I looked on my list of things to get that i got from school and it did say that i need to get MSDN software or something. So its likely that ill get some stuff for free. Otherwise i got a friend who runs his own IT company that might be able to help out.
@Bikedriver,
Laptop is awesome :P Ill let you know where i got everything installed etc etc in a PM or something lol. Thnx for recommending this one m8.
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if you want put a real SSD in it (but that would require the removal of the 2,5 inches 1TB HDD).
the laptop has a sata 3 thingy but the HDD doesnt support it so its wasted. a SSD will fasten your laptop to the maximum (but SSDs cheaper than 200€ are a waste of money imo).
and before you format the HDDs make sure to copy the drivers which are backup'ed there because those are HUGE. graphics driver#1 440MB, #2 200MB, sound 150MB, wlan 150MB, bluetooth 150MB etc...
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if you want put a real SSD in it (but that would require the removal of the 2,5 inches 1TB HDD).
the laptop has a sata 3 thingy but the HDD doesnt support it so its wasted. a SSD will fasten your laptop to the maximum (but SSDs cheaper than 200€ are a waste of money imo).
and before you format the HDDs make sure to copy the drivers which are backup'ed there because those are HUGE. graphics driver#1 440MB, #2 200MB, sound 150MB, wlan 150MB, bluetooth 150MB etc...
I don't know how everything is installed yet, ill figure that out tomorrow after that ill back up all the drivers anyway onto a external 2,5 inch drive i have got of like 512gb which holds all the drivers for all my devices. When Christmas time comes ill have some money again and ill buy an SSD worthy of this awesome laptop :D. And ill probably buy a new HDD for this PC i am on right now. I need a new HDD that can hold all my steam games. Roughly 750gb to 1TB is needed most likely more in case of future games.
Though those drivers aren't that big to be fair i can download them all within 5 minutes and they will probably be updated drivers as well.
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Here is what I ordered: http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html (http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html)
Unfortunately I couldn't find specifications of this particular one in english (lol, I always though copying the name to google is enough, well, it is not), but the hardware names are the same so w/e. I haven't paid for it yet, so could you please let me know whether it's worth buying? I can't spend any more money on this, 2600PLN = 634EU.
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Here is what I ordered: http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html (http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html)
Unfortunately I couldn't find specifications of this particular one in english (lol, I always though copying the name to google is enough, well, it is not), but the hardware names are the same so w/e. I haven't paid for it yet, so could you please let me know whether it's worth buying? I can't spend any more money on this, 2600PLN = 634EU.
Get more options to choose from, the way i see it you can get better laptops for that money..
Save up some money get around 700 euro (i think that translates to about 2800 to 2850 PLN) and go from there.
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Unless you actually need awesome performance in a portable device then reconsider a powerful laptop. The idea sounds good but they're bloody annoying... main issues are that they are heavy, slow to boot, awkward to whip out and can have bad battery life.. especially if you are after performance.
I have to retract this-- I recently (was reluctant to do so as well) had to buy a new laptop because my old one crapped out. My previous laptop had left a sour taste in my mouth, but my new one is an unbelievable change and it's only middle range (it's an ASUS K55VD).
After buying it I chucked a 128Gb SATAII SSD that I had purchased to try fix my broken laptop and now I have a fast booting work horse that lasts for hours on the battery. The stock standard drive that came in it was quite fast too, it was a 750Gb Seagate Momentus XT (SSD+HDD hybrid).
It has a multi-touch track pad on it so I chucked on Windows 8. The gestures make the experience better. I am just waiting on official Windows 8 drivers to fix some annoying issues (no Bluetooth and some missing system drivers)
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Here is what I ordered: http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html (http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116387-notebook-laptop-15,6-acer-v3-571g-i5-3210m-4gb-500-dvd-rw-7hp64-gt640m.html)
Unfortunately I couldn't find specifications of this particular one in english (lol, I always though copying the name to google is enough, well, it is not), but the hardware names are the same so w/e. I haven't paid for it yet, so could you please let me know whether it's worth buying? I can't spend any more money on this, 2600PLN = 634EU.
Get more options to choose from, the way i see it you can get better laptops for that money..
Save up some money get around 700 euro (i think that translates to about 2800 to 2850 PLN) and go from there.
Ahhh fuck it, you are right. My wallet cries already, I'm buying a cheaper version of Y580(no ssd drive, 4gb ram, i5):
http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116472-notebook-laptop-15,6-lenovo-ibm-y580-i5-3210m-4gb-1000-dvd-rw.html (http://www.x-kom.pl/p/116472-notebook-laptop-15,6-lenovo-ibm-y580-i5-3210m-4gb-1000-dvd-rw.html)
Don't show me anything more expensive please, I really wanted to keep this money :P
Of course, Im kidding, thanks for help, hopefully I won't be disappointed with this one ;)
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Sorry to go off topic here.. But i need to ask a Question as i am a Laptop User.
I've Dell Xps 15
Specs :
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.image%24hack.us%2Fimg560%2F7586%2F49369809.jpg&hash=409c5e3c5b4d0a940c62887919cf18b26d7ba226)
i have a Dedi. nvidia 525m 1Gb (tbh its a low end GFX card)
so what i wana know is that Can i Upgrade a Laptop's GFX card? :p
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Nah it's probably integrated on the motherboard
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Nah it's probably integrated on the motherboard
integrated chipset is different. as i've seen at some Websites People Say that you cant change the Chipset card but you can upgrade/replace your 2nd GFX card.. so i am just making sure if thats' possbile or not
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Nah it's probably integrated on the motherboard
integrated chipset is different. as i've seen at some Websites People Say that you cant change the Chipset card but you can upgrade/replace your 2nd GFX card.. so i am just making sure if thats' possbile or not
1st. Make your own topic... don't take over other people's topics..
2nd. Ask that question at the Dell forum..
3rd. Its not a good idea to put in a different videocard considering you have to deal with wattage etc etc.. (Stuff might get to hot aswell for the laptop to handle as you are changing airflow etc etc.)
@Simon
We got a MSDN Dreamspark account from school. And it does have windows 7 (up to professional) and even Windows 8.
P.S.
You can close my topic now as i already have the laptop in my possession for over 6 weeks now..
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topic locked on request by starter.