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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: L0kw on August 27, 2015, 03:12:32 AM

Title: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: L0kw on August 27, 2015, 03:12:32 AM
Hello guys.

many times I have seen players trapped on ammo banks and many other interiors that don't want to die and just /q to change location. I camp outside and ****** says he was relogging cuze he was dysinced but 3 seconds before he got full damage.I want know if this is allowed or not?

Ty guys :)
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: [JOKER]Zaibatsu on August 27, 2015, 06:18:09 AM
I camp outside

 ???

Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: L0kw on August 27, 2015, 06:50:18 AM
I camp outside

 ???
wat :P i rly wana kill that guy
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: BikeDriver on August 27, 2015, 08:34:04 AM
It is indeed exactly the same, as it's still /q to avoid (almost certain) death. It shouldn't be allowed tbh... What's next? /Qing in property zones?
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Freak on August 27, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
Also, im sure you talkin about me, i entered ammu, i didn't saw the red circle for spawn weapons, also my packet loss was 0.1% soo i simply said "desynced, relog".

Ty guys :)
Desinced? learn english, learn samp, gtfo.

0.1% packetloss doesn't makes you decync. ::)
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Negative on August 27, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
Enormous amount of nefarious controversies detected.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: EpicHunter on August 27, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
0.1% packetloss doesn't makes you decync. ::)
It does, since i didn't saw the red circle, but nvm.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: [V]Playa on August 27, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
It counts as one but its not written in rules, its really annoying since alot of regular/new players do it and they have excuses that never end.

@EpicHunter, stop boosting your post count.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Runey on August 27, 2015, 10:25:22 AM
Considered lame by most of players, but still allowed. If i was to punish someone for that, i actually wouldn't since he found a way to escape the death, but i guess it's up to admins. They have different points of view, so the punishment depends on them too.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: BikeDriver on August 27, 2015, 10:27:22 AM
Reminds me of Gryphus btw.

Some time ago /kill took a few seconds to be executed and was counted as a neutral death, so whenever possible Gryphus /killed himself when he had low health to prevent me scoring the kill. No idea how it works nowadays.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: [V]Playa on August 27, 2015, 10:30:41 AM
No idea how it works nowadays.
when you do /kill it scores for the player who shooted you with a bullet 1 second ago.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: PuBerZz on August 27, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Its not /q to avoid death if they make it safely into Ammunation.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Quickplay on August 27, 2015, 12:48:40 PM
Its not /q to avoid death if they make it safely into Ammunation.
indeed,
but personally, if somehow i found that it is done repeatedly and purposely, i would ask the guy to stop it cause it would be done to avoid getting killed in the end
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: S0n1c on August 27, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
These kind of topics isn't allowed, you should PM staff ingame or in forums, also you can see in server rules, "/q to avoid death" while in fight, if someone inside bank or ammu, you cannot control what he can do
Also, im sure you talkin about me, i entered ammu, i didn't saw the red circle for spawn weapons, also my packet loss was 0.1% soo i simply said "desynced, relog".
Stop crying please.
Desinced? learn english, learn samp, gtfo.

Dude you think you're so good at english, yeah? Then let me correct your post to let you know that you're not even close to being good at it.
"These kind of topics aren't allowed"
"If someone is inside back or ammu"
"I'm sure you're talking about me"
"I didn't see "
And when you use the letter I talking about youself it should be capitalized.

I agree with PuBerZZ

@playa I just replying in forums, i don't boost anything, Tell admins if i doing that, they will forum mute me. Otherwise get your shit outta here.

"I am just replying"
"Tell admins if I am doing"

You should be the last one to correct the way others speak and type english, as your english needs a lot of improvement too.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: EnzoMortelli on August 27, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
To clear the matter once and for all.

There are several types of /q - avoids:

/q to avoid death
Using the /q command in midst of a fight on low health to prevent inevitable death. - NOT ALLOWED.

/q to avoid losing money/stats
Using the /q command in a fight or hostile situation to prevent being harmed, no matter on what health. - NOT ALLOWED.

/q to avoid losing bounty
Using the /q command to rejoin the game, anywhere in any situation on any health when carrying a bounty. - NOT ALLOWED.

/q to rejoin/leave the game
Using /q when inside a bank or ammunation, or (exclusively or) when outside and
- ALLOWED.

if somehow i found that it is done repeatedly and purposely,
..it falls under restrictions of command spam, and can be handled as such.

What's next? /Qing in property zones?
It is allowed to kill people on property checkpoints using melee weapons, they are no safe zones and therefor /q-ing there is considered /q to avoid death (depending on current HP) or to avoid losing money/stats.

I camp outside
???
wat :P i rly wana kill that guy
If camping, remember that door camping is only allowed at North Ammunation, no-where else. You can camp buidlings, but aiming at the door or the exit points to take the target's armour before they can respond is considered door camping and not allowed. In favour of a rather lax handling of door camping at the doors of player houses and a more competitive gaming experience, if you feel the need to camp a door rather search another player that does not hide to fight with.

These kind of topics isn't allowed,
Reports of rulebreakers should not be done in the public forum section, however, discussing the reasoning behind rules or asking wether a certain behaviour is allowed or not is perfectly fine as long as the discussion itself stays constructive. Undiscerning or inconsiderate issues will not be tolerated.
This topic was not ment as report until you felt the need to react to allegations not necessarily and directly regarding you. Trying to turn the purpose of a topic around to bring it into forum restriction will not get the topic starter in trouble but the one who misguides the issue as for posting off-topic.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: [JOKER]Zaibatsu on August 27, 2015, 02:25:52 PM

/q to avoid losing bounty
Using the /q command to rejoin the game, anywhere in any situation on any health when carrying a bounty. - NOT ALLOWED.

Huh really?
When i have a bounty, walking alone on a street and want to reconnect, lets say just to sell all properties at once, I'm not allowed to do that? :S
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Runi on August 27, 2015, 03:40:17 PM

/q to avoid losing bounty
Using the /q command to rejoin the game, anywhere in any situation on any health when carrying a bounty. - NOT ALLOWED.

Huh really?
When i have a bounty, walking alone on a street and want to reconnect, lets say just to sell all properties at once, I'm not allowed to do that? :S
You are. He was talking as if you're being followed/attacked.

Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Naoufal on August 27, 2015, 05:14:32 PM
Doorcamping is not allowed, so i guess hes allowed anyways to /q inside a interior.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: EnzoMortelli on August 27, 2015, 05:28:37 PM

/q to avoid losing bounty
Using the /q command to rejoin the game, anywhere in any situation on any health when carrying a bounty. - NOT ALLOWED.

Huh really?
When i have a bounty, walking alone on a street and want to reconnect, lets say just to sell all properties at once, I'm not allowed to do that? :S
You are. He was talking as if you're being followed/attacked.
Assuming to be hunted when having a bounty, you would have to enter a bank and ammunation first to be safe from any allegations. But as with anything, common sense (rule #1) should be applied here. If you're completely alone and it is safely determinable that you're not being hunted, alias you're not using /q-ing as an unfair advantage to prevent players from getting your bounty, especially when you need to rejoin because you're bugged or desync, it's acceptable.

Doorcamping is not allowed, so i guess hes allowed anyways to /q inside a interior.
Only in banks and ammunation.
All public interiors allow to follow the player, which makes them not save.
The personal player houses are a huge exception because to be fair if we would deal with them like with the rest of the server even legit players would have to watch theirselves to not get kicked every 50 meter. That is why both /q-ing inside them and camping their doors is handled more lax, but in case this fact is being exploited we will handle it as with every other case.
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: L0kw on August 27, 2015, 08:24:54 PM
Guys I didn't ask for a forum fight :P
Title: Re: Same as /q to avoid death!!
Post by: Aryan on August 27, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
Guys I didn't ask for a forum fight :P
Indeed.

I guess enzo is clear over here.

Topic closed.