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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: Burner on March 08, 2016, 05:09:33 AM
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The weapon prices are more expensive.
Special shop has been updated and its more expensive.
15 mil Death Explosion.
4.5 mil spawn armor, each spawn 50,000$.
Chainsaw gone forevar.
5 Million bank account.
nope.avi
I suggest that players should have a 6 - 7 mil account now that this server increased its prices.
Donators 10-12.
Also, in trucking missions, the Payment should not be 100k it should be 200 - 300k. Now that the servers expensive
Standing in the pirate ship should give more money.
Simple as that.
P.S- Change the weapon prices back please.
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Keep in mind that prices were too cheap. I could easily buy 'hop hop' and 'death explosion' and then get my money back by racing. Now special shop is something that not everyone can afford.
Good at racing? You can beat best time to get 5m, 2nd best time and get 3m. 15m for death explosion? IT IS NIGHTMARE MAN. You can just shoot guy before death and he will be killed because of explosions.
Although we need chainsaw back, it was really fun to chop guys with it. :>
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10-12M are not enough? ??? ???
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At least bring the chainsaw back, it was a nice feature. Also change the bank of normal players
from 5 mil to 7-8 mil adn donators 11-13mil. Or something like that.
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OK Spitty,thanks for thinking again and trying to change ^_^ but i wrote this essay before your post :P I'll just post it.
IMO-
*Bank limits should be extended (regular-7m,donator-10m)
*Taxes for racing,thats something really unfair to newbies.I remember,my first thing in LW was race,If that would've cost me -24500 in my bank. trust me,i wouldn't be here now.
*** Special Shop-
*Hidden Nametag-also hides hp.I don't think its ok for a DM server.
*Hidden Blip- Thats camouflages job?!Which also costs money that's fair enough.
***Properties
*Only 5 props,fair enough.
*Gets sold when u go afk or pause.Also fair,but there should be a time like,if afk for 3 or 5 mins,props will be sold.Coz we fairly have the right to go afk for any emergency irl.
P.S.-my props got sold,when i died bcoz of my lag.maybe some glitch caused it.(twice)
***Weapon Price-
*Got increased,thats good for players to crave for money and such.More fight in the streets.
*The price might be too much?100k was enough to buy spawn weapons for DMers,but now they need atleast 500k for the ammo to fight in regular fights.Which players(regular) buy everytime they come ingame.Maybe prices should be in a limit,where players can buy the ammo they need in 200-300k.Or maybe prices should be restored like before,and it will cost in every spawn. Like,1/5 of the price they bought ammo with?
*Newbies will have a hard time to buy weapons,which might cause them to leave.
***Giving Money-
*"You need to be near the person to give money"???
That's a RP feature,i assume. :/
Everyone will have to only play for money.Thats not LW style :( Street fights might also decrease and people will start racing and trucking more.LW will be all about money then :(
All above are just some suggestions.
Although i really appreciate Nightmare for working hard and making all the changes.You did a good job bro! :D
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Moneygrub
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OK Spitty,thanks for thinking again and trying to change ^_^ but i wrote this essay before your post :P I'll just post it.
IMO-
*Bank limits should be extended (regular-7m,donator-10m)
*Taxes for racing,thats something really unfair to newbies.I remember,my first thing in LW was race,If that would've cost me -24500 in my bank. trust me,i wouldn't be here now.
*** Special Shop-
*Hidden Nametag-also hides hp.I don't think its ok for a DM server.
*Hidden Blip- Thats camouflages job?!Which also costs money that's fair enough.
***Properties
*Only 5 props,fair enough.
*Gets sold when u go afk or pause.Also fair,but there should be a time like,if afk for 3 or 5 mins,props will be sold.Coz we fairly have the right to go afk for any emergency irl.
P.S.-my props got sold,when i died bcoz of my lag.maybe some glitch caused it.(twice)
***Weapon Price-
*Got increased,thats good for players to crave for money and such.More fight in the streets.
*The price might be too much?100k was enough to buy spawn weapons for DMers,but now they need atleast 500k for the ammo to fight in regular fights.Which players(regular) buy everytime they come ingame.Maybe prices should be in a limit,where players can buy the ammo they need in 200-300k.Or maybe prices should be restored like before,and it will cost in every spawn. Like,1/5 of the price they bought ammo with?
*Newbies will have a hard time to buy weapons,which might cause them to leave.
***Giving Money-
*"You need to be near the person to give money"???
That's a RP feature,i assume. :/
Everyone will have to only play for money.Thats not LW style :( Street fights might also decrease and people will start racing and trucking more.LW will be all about money then :(
All above are just some suggestions.
Although i really appreciate Nightmare for working hard and making all the changes.You did a good job bro! :D
Hi everyone, i wanna drop a comment here also.
I see how all the expenses went so high, Myle has explained above a lot.
The thing is now everything is expensive Only thing i have to say We come to LW to have some fun guys not to get Stress, this is a game not a job. we are players who already tired from Jobs/studies/personal things. And this will worth if the Admins or Server actually earning some money so it can help the server maintenance and somethings. We both know you guys not earning anything from increasing the prize of the items and weapons. I hope you guys come with a plan to help the server for real, like putting 6 month Donor packages so players will keep donating every 6 month. Chainsaw is gone, i don't see any point of removing that cool feature. actually what i see is in short period of time LW's nice style is changing. i also appreciate Nightmare's work but the thing is this is not the best tbh i miss the old LW Style.
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I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.
I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.
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I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.
I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.
I was right, i saw you looking at my comment for like 30 minutes, then i thought oh its jayce looking at my comments again, cause i knew you're gonna put a comment against me as always. I always see your comment against my point. I have seen this in forum and server both. Hope to see your hated comments below of my future comments also, btw you're the best hater i ever had. Cya
(others have comment also about this topic but i can see you only reply your hated comment to my comment, so i will expect your Negative/hated/Disagreeing comment below what ever i comment even its a good or bad or whatever)
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well as there isnt any official topic about the new updates, ill give my 2 cents here aswell.
i mostly agree with myle and edward.
to point out, with totally being serious i admit im a lazy person and some of these new updates affect my confort-zone which leads me here...
long story short - i feel like i have to play this game in a role-playing style to get money for my everyday regular playing style. which means i have to be role-playing every time i join/leave the server and this isnt really my cup of tea and sadly it makes me join other servers more and more and join lw less and less...
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Higher wep prices are already implemented? Damn, didn't get to see it yesterday night.
About the replies above, I would just say a simple 'no'. What staff has been working on is to make players more active while spending time on the server. Everything they've been planning to do would most likely fall in the water and plans themselves would disappear like they were never brought to attention in the first place at all.
Current bank limit is more than enough for anyone to survive the current "LW crisis", even for your newbies. I can number you just 2 features that earning money from is damn easy: races and properties. I don't even have to mention that 90% of active community uses those two to make quick money. Trucking missions, killing people, gambling, event made money and such are alternatives being used a lot less than the first two features i mentioned and only when you're bored, if your bank is full and the chances of losing it does not matter to you as you planned to do some uncommon stuff with it (money), organising more events, tunning cars and the last thing I can think of is of course earning to fullfill your bank account.
You may also be wondering why i don't want bank limits to be raised. In the past, normal members (regulars) had bigger banks, and so did the donators (R: 7, D:10). Some staff members have stated that the old system(gamemode) worked and was maily coded for a server handling 100-200 players on daily basis and because the server was literally flooded with money, fights kept going on and on over the treasure and who'll be the happy owner of a full bank, who'll become rich etc. Later on when the server population surprisingly fast went down to the bottom of the sea, nothing could ever work normally again, no fights, no players, no actual activity, just some noobs roaming every now and then a few regulars and a possible staff member and that's it. Unfortunately we don't get to see this again nowadays and that's exactly why I disagreed with you, hopefully you understand.
Regarding the new bomb shop, it's not necessarily required from you to buy it everytime you join LWs, why making a big deal out of it then? It's indeed an additional feature that not everyone can afford to have, that's why it's special, and because you must work your lazy ass off to own any of these.
The money earned by trucking missions feature depends on the distance and the time it takes you to complete it successfully. So it depends directly on you whether or not you're gonna make some huge amount of money there. Besides, it's also made for fun purposes.
Chainsaw will be back, nothing will be taken away without letting anyone know so don't panic.
There are changes on the work, this goes step by step. It wont stay just like this, there will be more tweaks in the income/outcome and banks.
Same with the special shop. It was rebuilt, some of the features are missing but they will be back soon.
Since i got to take a look at the replies that were written before i could finish this, i feel like we're terrorising people and not necessarily helping the server, just not entirely sure why. Because no changes were made for full 3 years and everybody became lazy? I could only write a few assumptions and possibilities, but those are not facts which is why i won't.
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But bring the chain saw back please.
I agree with all the above.
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i really can't understand all of these complaints: last time i joined i earned something around 1,5 millions in 10 minutes...
Maybe the system as Spit said needs an adjustment which will be made, but if everytime we change the system, someone comes asking to increase the bank limit, then all the efforts made to make people spend their money would be useless
The only things i got doubts about, are those items which can't be bought even using all the cash you can store in bank..that means you'd need to empty at least 2 of your accounts' banks (if you have) and having to entrust that money to someone which should keep the money until u come back with the other account, kinda boring
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I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.
I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.
Yes i agree.The economy was messed up and needed a change.The updates and the staffs attention to the economy is appreciable.But somethings might be too much.I'm not saying to bring back the whole system,but just bring it to a fair condition.
Higher wep prices are already implemented? Damn, didn't get to see it yesterday night.
About the replies above, I would just say a simple 'no'. What staff has been working on is to make players more active while spending time on the server. Everything they've been planning to do would most likely fall in the water and plans themselves would disappear like they were never brought to attention in the first place at all.
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Since i got to take a look at the replies that were written before i could finish this, i feel like we're terrorising people and not necessarily helping the server, just not entirely sure why. Because no changes were made for full 3 years and everybody became lazy? I could only write a few assumptions and possibilities, but those are not facts which is why i won't.
Thats why we said,we appreciate the work Nightmare and you guys are doing.The updates are much appreciated.But the thing is,old days won't come back.No matter how much you guys try to make it like before.Most of the players have moved on with new games and etc. SA-MP players are less than before.So,if you think bringing back everything to the way it was will bring back players,then I'm sorry but you are wrong.The players gone won't come back as regular and give hours in LW.They have moved on.If you really want players,then the system should be newbie friendly.And the current one isn't (from my point of view).The updates are pretty good but somethings should be changed.
P.S.- We are not criticizing the staff.
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I mentioned the old system as an example of how it used to be and why it can't work normally anymore, I didn't say we should throw away all the work staff and devs have done. Bank limit is something i tried to put the attention to since the creator of this topic complained about the limit being too low and then i explained why staff decided to lower it years ago. It's not necessarily needed to raise it as there's enough space for the earnings on the server.
Read Quick's reply if nothing else could convince you that earning money is way too easy to even mention, just like the bank limit being absolutely fine as it is.
Glad that people understood my post.
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Prices are changed? :o
/me parties
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But bring the chain saw back please.
I agree with all the above.
But pls bring it back :'(
3 posts from this nub to bring chainsaw back lolz
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Relax guys. As Spitfire said, the prices and income will constantly be changing until it's just right.
The "you need to be close to a player" thing is gone. Bank limit has been increased (7 regular 10m donator). And the old features from the old special shop will be back.
Also, the force selling of the properties due to pausing for a little bit will be fixed soon.
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Thats really nice from the management side!
Changing the prices and owning them all is the only way to say you are rich, increasing the bank limit too.
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Relax guys. As Spitfire said, the prices and income will constantly be changing until it's just right.
The "you need to be close to a player" thing is gone. Bank limit has been increased (7 regular 10m donator). And the old features from the old special shop will be back.
Also, the force selling of the properties due to pausing for a little bit will be fixed soon.
Now
*Myle parties 8) :D
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CV become very greedy ..... Now he is hosting just 1st - 500k 2nd - 300k 3rd -200k prize races.. I think CV should host big prize races that we can earn some more money to overcome the new prices of Special shop and others ::)
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And reaction tests should increase too!
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Increasing the already dominating features on the server would just make the situation even worse than it is. We should as Spit said increase the earnings coming from the alternatives, i mean if we lower the prices there, no one would actually use these which would lead to them being totally useless and left behind covered by dust, players would eventually lose the interest and one by one start leaving... That's what we have been trying to avoid here, therefore making the difference between prizes smaller is what we're aiming at.
Reaction tests are good enough. Besides the existence of this feature is collapsing the economy itself, everybody can type the crap it orders you to, the key to the success is just to be quick.
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They say doing something quick wouldnt provide what we want. They should take their time developing to surprise the community.
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the key to the success is just to be quick.
modestly mate i know, i know
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TRUCKING IS LOVE, TRUCKING IS LIFE
hhhhhhhhhhh
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are u trying to kill DM totally or what? why do i have to pay extra money for spawning, when i have already paid more money to spawnweapons (than buying regular weapons).... can u please remove that spawning tax or whatever it is?
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are u trying to kill DM totally or what? why do i have to pay extra money for spawning, when i have already paid more money to spawnweapons (than buying regular weapons).... can u please remove that spawning tax or whatever it is?
It's probably the side-effect of changing the prices back to the way it was!
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are u trying to kill DM totally or what? why do i have to pay extra money for spawning, when i have already paid more money to spawnweapons (than buying regular weapons).... can u please remove that spawning tax or whatever it is?
You probably haven't known yet but 2 years ago Faraday released new version of LWs gamemode v.3.0.0 which had this new weapon system where the taxes were included. Basically you had to pay tax in order to keep your spawn weapons you bought previously which is, if you ask me, quite stupid as the purpose of buying and carrying spawn weps in the first place is to spend extra money on 'em and therefore have them for as long as you want (or until you /q the game and wait 5 minutes).
It's probably the side-effect of changing the prices back to the way it was!
Why would we change the prices back if they are already implemented into the game and are working fine? The change was made to stabilize the economy, else it wouldn't be quite understandable why doing so. Or i just misread your post?
the key to the success is just to be quick.
modestly mate i know, i know
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It's probably the side-effect of changing the prices back to the way it was!
Why would we change the prices back if they are already implemented into the game and are working fine? The change was made to stabilize the economy, else it wouldn't be quite understandable why doing so. Or i just misread your post?
Well,last time I played,the prices were changed back to the way it was! :-\ Maybe it was changed to higher prices again or I saw it wrong or I misheard it.
I haven't been playing for 2 days now,so,I don't know the current situation.
P.S.:-A topic on the current changes would clear all these misunderstandings and unwanted arguements.
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what about the cost of spawn Armour? it should be more than 500 , like 750 or 1000 , so the undercover agents wont get Armour with their spawn money :P
P.S i meant simple armour not spawn armour
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what about the cost of spawn Armour? it should be more than 500 , like 750 or 1000 , so the undercover agents wont get Armour with their spawn money :P
it's 3,5M
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what about the death explosion 3.0. its really stupid (not talking about the price, the feature itself)
also, make a topic about the server changelog, doing updates anonymously is really bad
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what about the death explosion 3.0. its really stupid (not talking about the price, the feature itself)
also, make a topic about the server changelog, doing updates anonymously is really bad
exactly, i just got to know about spawn armour from zia
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Death Explosion??!
I'm still worried about the Hidden Nametag thing. :-/ I mean,can't see hp in a DM server?? co'mon? -.-
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It's something you pay extra to have an advantage.
I could just say "camouflage? i can't see blips in a dm server? come on!"
Well this is the same, someone paid extra cash to have something that benefits him and others don't have. For years people here said that cash is useless because you can't do nothing with it, well, now you can buy expensive special items as long as you are willing to pay the price and fees.
lw always had this rhetoric of hating change, some of the features that are now deeply loved, the ones that would lead people to leave the server if we removed them, the very same were very criticized back in the day. It's like if i woke up after being slept for 5 years and i see the same topic only with different people in it.
Lol xD (last line)
and ya,maybe you are right,people aren't always comfortable with changes :P It was just an opinion from my perspective.
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1. The prices are not high enough.
2. I earn a lot of money by killing ppl.
3. Each race win gives me around 1M $.
4. I buy enough weapons 10 mins after I log in.
5. After 30 minutes of playing, I got like 1M dollars and I don't know what to do with them.
Everything is cheap, put higher prices. :D
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5. After 30 minutes of playing, I got like 1M dollars and I don't know what to do with them.
*cough* special shop *cough*
Host races by yourself and give Cesar a rest, host events.... host blewert, costs 15M, at your own risk tho
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It's something you pay extra to have an advantage.
I could just say "camouflage? i can't see blips in a dm server? come on!"
Well this is the same, someone paid extra cash to have something that benefits him and others don't have. For years people here said that cash is useless because you can't do nothing with it, well, now you can buy expensive special items as long as you are willing to pay the price and fees.
lw always had this rhetoric of hating change, some of the features that are now deeply loved, the ones that would lead people to leave the server if we removed them, the very same were very criticized back in the day. It's like if i woke up after being slept for 5 years and i see the same topic only with different people in it.
Lol xD (last line)
and ya,maybe you are right,people aren't always comfortable with changes :P It was just an opinion from my perspective.
for me he's absolutely right
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Current prices are completely Right
And exactly , as runey said host races or events or if i am in game send that money to me so i could buy some expensive stuff from special shop :P
and if you're not that much kind person or you don't want your earned money used by anyone then /charity twice is also an option
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I think everyone should consider adding features that would be expensive, like small ones. For example, changing a skin would cost $ X. I appreciate Nightmares work but
we have to focus on BUGS instead of adding new features. I agree with Myle, The health bar should show up when purchasing the Hidden name-tag, because its a DM server.
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For example, changing a skin would cost $ X.
This sounds interesting.
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I know right. Adding Small features that is expensive would be cool, and will keep the economy balanced.
/ me price should be increased a little too. Greedy me :3