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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: Negative on May 15, 2016, 03:21:54 PM
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I've seen a lot of players complaining about death explosions v2.0 and 3.0, plus one person asked me to post it. So, here it is:
Think. Let's take DE v3.0 as example. You buy it, go shoot guys easily, remove a bit of their hp, get killed, BOOM. Easy revenge, K/D is not getting ruined, players annoyed.
What more, you can even farm kills with it, but you should be too mad to do it. And even 2.0 - you can still revenge players with it.
So what do you think: should we leave it at it is, nerf it (less explosions, less damage) or remove them.
Vote in poll, feel free to comment.
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It's so fucking expensive that it has to be strong, otherwise nobody will ever buy it. :)
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http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,25256.0/topicseen.html (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,25256.0/topicseen.html)
Is he talking about the same thing? ???
and yea I also agree that it doesn't effect the stats when you kill someone who's having a DE...pretty bad for statswhores! :P
glad,m not one of 'em!
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remove it ..
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I like it, i mean, it shows that only people who have money on the server, could rule the whole server! MWHAHAHAHAHA!
j/k
leave it
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I like it, i mean, it shows that only people who have money on the server, could rule the whole server! MWHAHAHAHAHA!
Well that can be a reason to keep it,because it gives players the thirst of money which management has been trying to bring among.
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I like it, i mean, it shows that only people who have money on the server, could rule the whole server! MWHAHAHAHAHA!
Well that can be a reason to keep it,because it gives players the thirst of money which management has been trying to bring among.
yeah, thats the point of making the prices higher, they want them to work, gamble, kill! to bring the old lw's spirit
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I think it's great as it is
It costs alot and it's worth it if you get it and for those who die of the burst that it does, it's simply there fault
It's easily to get out of range of it (for me atleast) and it's a challenge
It's perfect how it is right now
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If you can propose to abolish deatx eplosion server becomes stupid when there is no real fight once before which was not me the wrong way server is very I'm satisfied with the work done al overhangs the players rebelling like this
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Nerf nerf DE x2-x3.
There are no fair fights anymore.
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There is no need for any change. Perhaps give a discount in special shop for donators? ;)
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There is no need for any change. Perhaps give a discount in special shop for donators? ;)
But that already exists or was it removed?
That already exists. Donators are shown donator prices.
As for death explosion, it is an expensive thing to buy which makes the powerful explosion worth it. If you keep dying from it, you need to change your routine. If you want fair fights, we have the duel arena.
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Seeing that it's finally useful compared to the previous version, leave it as it is.
Easy revenge, K/D is not getting ruined, players annoyed.
That's exactly the intention of it. What else would a death explosion be used for if not for these.
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Now that we are talking about the special shop,I've heard that camouflages don't hide blips anymore to give priority to the "hidden blip".First,we thought it's a bug but then I heard it was done on purpose.Is it true?
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Nerf nerf DE x2-x3.
There are no fair fights anymore.
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littlewhytey's not what it once was before a few years ago no fair fights are no rules everyone doing what they want too much swearing, regarding deatx explosion to anyone and does not need too expensive of the 14 players on the server loads them 5.6 What's the use to play then I I would love if you can remove it from the server will be better and it will be a fair fight
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Won't forget the times when NiGHTM4RE used to boom every living thing passing by nam... =(
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Nightmare did a good job for the server, and death explosion is one of the cool things happened to the server because normally if a player can't face 5 vs 1. he can just go buy DE and fight with them. Its not gonna be easy to buy DE 3.0 because its 14 Million and cuts down 150 000 when you explode every-time. so normally players buy DE 2.0 so even if a player has DE 2.0 if there is 5 enemies they can still kill him easily without dying from the explosion.
I can see the point of Death Explosion it gives more fun to the server. Imagine if 5 players from same gang standing in-front of Nammu to kill OR if a car full of gang chasing to kill you, there will be no fun for that individual but now that person can go buy Death Explosion and fight with them so at least he will get 1 or 2 kills. so both having fun even the enemies and the one with DE. and you cant just explode without thinking or just explode to show off, because each and every explosion cost Money $$ . This will make players to go and earn money because money at least can do something enjoyable.
LW is right now going smoothly, nightmare made good race system and good ways to earn money but last 2 weeks Race prizes and lot of things went down (i don't know who's idea is that) then all the players left the server. This is the problem here as i see, LW admins and Management always comes with GOOD IDEAS but the thing is even what ever you do there will be players who gonna like your work and there will be a players who gonna hate your work. to be honest there are many younger kids plays (even below 15) so if you guys keep listening to each and every players opinion this server wont be good because kids will come up and say i don't like this remove it . so please don't listen to everyone's opinion i know Nightmare is a management and i know he is not dumb i am really admiring his work. As i said earlier each and everything LW staff do, there will be someone coming and telling to remove it. i have seen many forums and never seen this much suggestions / opinions from Regular players to effect the Game.
I've seen a lot of players complaining about death explosions v2.0 and 3.0, plus one person asked me to post it. So, here it is:
Think. Let's take DE v3.0 as example. You buy it, go shoot guys easily, remove a bit of their hp, get killed, BOOM. Easy revenge, K/D is not getting ruined, players annoyed.
What more, you can even farm kills with it, but you should be too mad to do it. And even 2.0 - you can still revenge players with it.
So what do you think: should we leave it at it is, nerf it (less explosions, less damage) or remove them.
Vote in poll, feel free to comment.
Negative about your poll, to be honest nothing personal but this poll is really look stupid because first thing there is no poll Ending date second you're a regular player even you win the poll you cant remove anything here by yourself. Third you says somebody told you to post this, please don't listen to what others says you to do, if someone says you to go jump to the well are you gonna do that also ? or maybe that person who told you to post it here maybe that person doesn't have balls to post it by their self. Negative you said you have seen many players complaining how can you see many players complaining you don't even stay active for long time. i see this poll as a another bait for a useless argument or a useless forum war. Please Lock this poll before some useless arguments starts.
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Nightmare did a good job for the server, and death explosion is one of the cool things happened to the server because normally if a player can't face 5 vs 1. he can just go buy DE and fight with them. Its not gonna be easy to buy DE 3.0 because its 14 Million and cuts down 150 000 when you explode every-time. so normally players buy DE 2.0 so even if a player has DE 2.0 if there is 5 enemies they can still kill him easily without dying from the explosion.
I can see the point of Death Explosion it gives more fun to the server. Imagine if 5 players from same gang standing in-front of Nammu to kill OR if a car full of gang chasing to kill you, there will be no fun for that individual but now that person can go buy Death Explosion and fight with them so at least he will get 1 or 2 kills. so both having fun even the enemies and the one with DE. and you cant just explode without thinking or just explode to show off, because each and every explosion cost Money $$ . This will make players to go and earn money because money at least can do something enjoyable.
LW is right now going smoothly, nightmare made good race system and good ways to earn money but last 2 weeks Race prizes and lot of things went down (i don't know who's idea is that) then all the players left the server. This is the problem here as i see, LW admins and Management always comes with GOOD IDEAS but the thing is even what ever you do there will be players who gonna like your work and there will be a players who gonna hate your work. to be honest there are many younger kids plays (even below 15) so if you guys keep listening to each and every players opinion this server wont be good because kids will come up and say i don't like this remove it . so please don't listen to everyone's opinion i know Nightmare is a management and i know he is not dumb i am really admiring his work. As i said earlier each and everything LW staff do, there will be someone coming and telling to remove it. i have seen many forums and never seen this much suggestions / opinions from Regular players to effect the Game.
I've seen a lot of players complaining about death explosions v2.0 and 3.0, plus one person asked me to post it. So, here it is:
Think. Let's take DE v3.0 as example. You buy it, go shoot guys easily, remove a bit of their hp, get killed, BOOM. Easy revenge, K/D is not getting ruined, players annoyed.
What more, you can even farm kills with it, but you should be too mad to do it. And even 2.0 - you can still revenge players with it.
So what do you think: should we leave it at it is, nerf it (less explosions, less damage) or remove them.
Vote in poll, feel free to comment.
Negative about your poll, to be honest nothing personal but this poll is really look stupid because first thing there is no poll Ending date second you're a regular player even you win the poll you cant remove anything here by yourself. Third you says somebody told you to post this, please don't listen to what others says you to do, if someone says you to go jump to the well are you gonna do that also ? or maybe that person who told you to post it here maybe that person doesn't have balls to post it by their self. Negative you said you have seen many players complaining how can you see many players complaining you don't even stay active for long time. i see this poll as a another bait for a useless argument or a useless forum war. Please Lock this poll before some useless arguments starts.
If people want it to be removed it will probably be lol. Anyways, to all those who said we should keep it:
Newbies. Kills a player by luck, gets exploded. Mostly they /q since fighting against such an overpowered things.
You yourself. Why people who use it have to DM someone? They will just shoot when on low hp and BOOM!
To Enzo and Spit: I'd understand if you talked against classic DE or 2.0 one. But, meh, against DE 3.0? Go snipe? OK. If he understand where you are he will just run close, shoot you, if not kill with guns, he will with DE.
More challenging? If you want a real challenge, add DE v4.0. Simply explosions in radius of 20m or so. Easy revenge? Yes. K/D not getting ruined? YES. Challenge? YES SUPER CHALLENGE.
The thing is not about the money. You can simply farm them with different accounts, buy it once and never log out, just keep game paused (be Mikael v2.0 or 3.0, depends what you buy). You will just simply annoy everyone and probably make them r/q.
As for myself, I'm not taking any side, I'm telling how it is. Yes, those are good stuff but meh. Compare even 2.0 and 3.0, and classic with 2.0, and think. I haven't seen any attractions to LW since these new changes (except Huracan leaving, which is the best what happened in 2016). Yeah I'm out, thanks for reading.
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I think you can avoid being blown up by it if you really want to.
And if it takes 150k every time from the suicider, just kill him 10-20 times and see how long he is going to use it :D
When you are aware someone using it, you simply change your attacking style and tactics. Cmon samp isnt just sawn-uzi in circles.
Long story short i dont mind it and i dont mind if it gets removed
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yeah, you can snipe him from a long distance, or lower his HP go to a far place and shot him, his money will be wasted, and nobody will be killed.
there are plenty of ways to avoid the DE, you guys dont use your mind often.
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We are not supposed to run from someone while he's low hp because he has death explosion.
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What are you supposed to do in this game at all? Beat your opponent without dying by his DE? Just adapt a new fighting style so you dont have to run from him then :)
Wether it's long distance, using corners, climbing, kite manouver or any other opportunity the game offers, is up to u personally.
Sometimes u just gotta improvise
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add some sweet allah akbar sound fx and i'm all for it +1
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I like turtles .............
jk dont remove it until i try it cuz i never tried it b4 ...... nooby me
and no ... no muslim sound fx cuz thats racist.
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add some sweet allah akbar sound fx and i'm all for it +1
well, not sure if this is ok, but i say it when i use the de...
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if it takes 150k every time from the suicider, just kill him 10-20 times and see how long he is going to use it :D
When you are aware someone using it, you simply change your attacking style and tactics. Cmon samp isnt just sawn-uzi in circles.
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add some sweet allah akbar sound fx and i'm all for it +1
XD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Why not just add a badge next to the text above the player to indicate that they are armed with a death explosion. Perhaps have different color badges to indicate the caliber of said death explosion. At least this way there are no surprises. You can fight or flight with complete confidence of your fate.
EDIT: It doesn't even need to be a badge. Even just an ASCII symbol in a different color text.
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But what would life be without a little surprise?
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But what would life be without a little surprise?
Apparently really controversial!
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When is this poll gonna end ? like i said earlier in this topic. what's the point of not having a ending date ? :o
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When is this poll gonna end ? like i said earlier in this topic. what's the point of not having a ending date ? :o
It isn't an official poll by admins that would decide the outcome so the date is irrelevant
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Death explosions is the most fucked up thing in LW it used to be expansive before but now some of the races gives 4millions or 3. Even undercovers are able to afford the money to buy it. I mean imagine 3 or 4 players using DE near ammu if you kill one everyone around that area will be dead. That shit happens pretty much these days i hope it gets removed or make it more expansive
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koria has a point...
admins changed the economy system because ppl had full banks and money was easy etc... but now its even worse lol, lwbot (used to host 250k races rarely) hosts 1M+ race in every 15min and u can store up to 30M in gbank...
its like all this economy stuff u planned to do (making ppl work for money etc), u made it exactly vice versa
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| PRO | CON |
| expensive | cheap |
| motivating | annoying |
| donator discount | K/D equals |
| useful vs previous | ez, op |
| no players anyway | Makes newbs r/q |
| rekt 5vs1 | unfair |
| challenging | makes pros run |
| fun | no allah akbar sound |
| avoidable | unmarked |
| revenge | Nightmare uses it |
| 24 votes | 12 votes |
I think we're done here.
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| PRO | CON |
| expensive | cheap |
| motivating | annoying |
| donator discount | K/D equals |
| useful vs previous | ez, op |
| no players anyway | Makes newbs r/q |
| rekt 5vs1 | unfair |
| challenging | makes pros run |
| fun | no allah akbar sound |
| avoidable | unmarked |
| revenge | Nightmare uses it |
| 24 votes | 12 votes |
I think we're done here.
Exactly.
Would there ever be a week when players wouldn't complain about certain features? Looking for an answer.
There's plenty of ways to avoid DE, for example you could stop running in circles with sawns and start using your head and try to find a new tactic. Sniper and camoufladge? If you mix those, you'll get rather efficient than bad solution.
Search for new ways to own the streets, besides duel arena is made for those who want to keep the game fair enough.
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camoflague hasnt worked since the latest update
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Increase DE price and cost per death, problem solved. Less suicide bombers, more fun playing the game. Fighting against DE is not a 'new fight style' it is just a lame shit to gain kills when you can't do shit against the player you're fighting. Getting rid of it would be best thing ever happened, I might play samp in LW again.
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I've heard that camouflages don't hide blips anymore to give priority to the "hidden blip".First,we thought it's a bug but then I heard it was done on purpose.Is it true?
I still want to know this :(
From what i saw, races are currently giving rewards based on its lenght. Long races have high prizes and short races have low prizes. That system seems pretty fair, except that i would cut the prizes to half of what they currently are if not less.
^This
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Add zombies.
I am serious, add zombies. It'll fix everything.
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Add zombies.
I am serious, add zombies. It'll fix everything.
wot i dont know how that can fix everything
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sarcasm 101
4 example:
how to correctly eat female butt.
... whoops sorry i thought this was the google search bar ;D ... but that post button is so tempting ... must press button .... must post reply ... must ... nooo don't do it stop ple-
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@Myle
That might have been done on purpose. There would be no point in paying that much money for something based on the same idea, in this case that option was taken from camoufladge feature and was given to 'hidden blip'. I haven't paid a visit to the server for a while so i'll try to check everything out. Btw, think Zaib said that certain feature (camoufladge) doesn't work?
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| PRO | CON |
| expensive | cheap |
| motivating | annoying |
| donator discount | K/D equals |
| useful vs previous | ez, op |
| no players anyway | Makes newbs r/q |
| rekt 5vs1 | unfair |
| challenging | makes pros run |
| fun | no allah akbar sound |
| avoidable | unmarked |
| revenge | Nightmare uses it |
| 24 votes | 12 votes |
I think we're done here.
Btw why Death Explosion topic went to camouflage ?
lol like i said no one will get satisfied from anything. even you increase race prizes people gonna say its too much. if you cut down the prize they gonna leave the server Nice
GG
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Well done spit
I still dont quite understand why everyone can see you when using camoflague, its like spending 250k for charity
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I didn't get the chance to speak with the devs in the last couple of days but i am certain that either this is the cause of a bug or they intended to remove the camouflage but for some reason it didn't get removed completely.
Let's wait for their answer to know which of them is it.
someone ingame, can't remember who, told me that Nightmare removed the invisible blip even after buying the camo (probably with the further intention to remove it) but this is all to confirm.
Anyways we should indeed either totally remove it, or at least meanwhile warn players that it won't work
About the DE, i wouldn't mind too much... btw it's a good item against teamers who gangbang players 5v1 or more ::)