littlewhitey's Servers Forum (SA-MP/VC-MP/MTA/Zomboid)
VC-MP Server - 51.38.93.130:8192 => Support => Help-Desk & Server Information => Support Archive => Topic started by: ArThaS.... on July 30, 2019, 08:32:09 PM
-
Hello there!
I would like to say that kindly command !give cash in the server that was recently removed from the server. This command is very useful in many conditions. Helps people to donate each other cash. Many commands are being removed from the servers such as /tradecar /accept /reject which totally change the total technique to play the server, but was well decision because numbers of users are increasing and all peoples can't own vehicles. But the removal of this command (!give cash) is bad decision. Many players are disappointed By this decisions.
Kindly move back the command in the server if possible.
Thanks you.
With Best Wishes.
ArThaS.
-
+11111111111111
-
really? Removed? Why? For what?
It does make the game more fun?
I don't think so.
This cmd must be returned its such an important command
+1
-
https://littlewhiteys.com/index.php/topic,33657.0.html
-
+1 (plz give that command back. it was so useful to help others and also get help). plz enable it.
-
really? Removed? Why? For what?
It does make the game more fun?
I don't think so.
This cmd must be returned its such an important command
+1
i don't why but i just listened that this command i just removr bcuz of sined and removed by morphine
-
really? Removed? Why? For what?
It does make the game more fun?
I don't think so.
This cmd must be returned its such an important command
+1
i don't why but i just listened that this command i just removr bcuz of sined and removed by morphine
oh, this is a wise decision. I guess.
-
+1
-
-1
Now the known scammers , cheaters and account breachers won't be able to do anything (i hate those benchoods). Also the new players and noobs are gonna stop harrasing the server ( "pLz GiVe Me 100K BrO " ) and play like everyone to get money
-
-1
Now the known scammers , cheaters and account breachers won't be able to do anything (i hate those benchoods). Also the new players and noobs are gonna stop harrasing the server ( "pLz GiVe Me 100K BrO " ) and play like everyone to get money
FrenchNuker if u hate scammers and u can simply ignore them by using cmd /ignore. And if u hate cheaters and account breachers they break rule. And you should be sharp enough to not get breach. If you get breach that was totally your fault you trust anybody. This command is useful enough so be positive
-
i still stay on my words. i'm very positive. it got removed for a reason and i think it's better than way.
Farewell to scammers and cheaters.
Noobs or New players will now try to fight , train and improve and make money by their own ! Everything's good
-
New players will now try to fight , train and improve and make money by their own!
^^^ point
-
New players will now try to fight , train and improve and make money by their own!
^^^ point
What a goddamn joke right here. I would like to ask RajPut here if you really think so at the first point, then you, as an admin, why don't you said so at the first moment? Unlike just being to say something like this now. Don't let those stupid words from that NukerStar to blind your mind. On the top of that, keeping !givecash ain't mean that newbies will just keep begging money forever and forever. The point of keeping !givecash cmd is because it's one of the most important things here, as I said on the last post (https://littlewhiteys.com/index.php/topic,33674.0.html), keeping !givecash cmd, is because it's
one of the cores of the whole gaming issue
a freedom of how a player administrates his capital
But now,
our deserved freedom is going to be revoked at the point
And that dumb NukerStar, seems to be happy with it, because his
stand on it, is to do anything like whatever it takes, and just to reduce the unfortunate cases and not to consider most our players (especially old players that always keep the server crowded) gaming-experience
Except he and that damn Siezer both got the same stands, he also liking to be hating the freedom we usually had, unlike most of us, we mostly like to live in place where filled with freedom and not unnecessary limits.
And, NukerStar,
At last, I just wanna tell you, please, please don't take it too serious, it's just a game. I mean, what the heck! We are not running a bank, this is just a virtual world we are playing on. Things don't need to be that complicated. We play games just for fun for chill, and not for a pain situation like now.
Just to keep !givecash. And just deal with any unfortunates when it happens.
Admins and management, please, and I mean please, bring back the !givecash cmd, otherwise this game isn't that worth to play on.
Please.
-
-
Stop just quoting yourself.
Also, everyone have their own opinion. Don't argue.
Anyways, -1 for the suggestion!
-
Anyways, -1 for the suggestion!
But most players want it back. Why you kind of admins have to be so stubborn? !givecash cmd is one of the most important elements of the whole game, removing such important thing will finally reduce players number of the server (as there's even no freedom of administrates self capital).
And next I will tell you, there is two possible results of how Littlewhitey's will go in the later timing:
If bringing back the cmd !givecash, LW's can always be the most popular server around VC-MP, players keep financially supporting, and new people keep coming in.
If keeping the decision of removing it, LW's players number will be dropping, no more support increasing, and everyone will start going to other servers (as I see VKs would be the biggest beneficiary) to play and see those servers as their usual playing servers but just NOT LW's.
either keeping everything as it usually does, or going the way that can never turn back.
The choice is yours now.
-
The command was removed due to the increasing amount of people attempting to breach accounts of other players (sometimes successful, sometimes not).
On a daily basis we were seeing many players (primarily those from Internet cafes/905) logging on to the server and continually spamming either in public chat or via PM harassing and begging players for money much like below:
<PM> From: (NrA)KinG_905. To: [K]: bro give cash bro money 100000
They would spam repeatedly like this until the person they were spamming gave in or they would move onto the next person. From observing them they would often use the !stats command to find their next target in order to determine who has money.
The volume of this spam was increasing much more significantly over the coming weeks before the command was removed. We would mute/shun/tempban them but as they were playing from an Internet cafe this caused a number of problems:
- The shunned player would just leave the server and rejoin with a different nickname / different machine in the cafe and start the begging process again.
- Due to the environment they were playing from being a cafe it was then hard to track if the player who had just joined with a new nickname was the same player as previously or another player entirely.
- Sometimes when banning them the machine would then become banned (or in some cases the IP address of the cafe) causing problems for all other players in the cafe who were playing legit not causing any trouble.
By removing the !givecash command we aim to deal with the following problems:
- If a player's account is compromised, whoever has access cannot do as much damage as previously since they will be in a 'sandboxed' environment.
- Player's risk losing alot more now if they get banned. Before we have seen instances of players being banned, re-joining under an alias and getting a friend to send them money so that they can buy that PCJ that they just lost from their banned account etc. Players will now have to spend time on the server and progress themselves and earn cash for their posessions.
- As the beggars know the ability to share cash doesn't exist they won't even bother. We have already seen a significant decrease in begging/spamming/player harassment through PM's since it was removed.
--
As anyone who reguarly plays the server will know. You can easily accumulate ALOT of money on your account after playing for awhile. So much that you do not know what to do with. This is because there isn't really alot of things to spend it on. 1 vehicle, ocassional weapons/armour and the healing at the hospital isn't very taxing after gathering a reasonable amount of money. For this reason, we really need to implement and overhaul the server with new features which players can spend the money on to purchase. I do have alot of ideas that I would love to see implemented but at the end of the day it's up to AdTec_224 to decide what he wants to add and doesn't as it's his script and his time and energy spent.
There is some suggestions like transferring money via PAC or limiting the amount to x amount per day that can be transferred. But either of these will still enable the beggars to spam players for money aslong as they are aware that the ability to send cash is allowed.
Currently at the moment AdTec doesn't have any intention of adding this back in for the foreseeable future. I'm personally fine with that aswell. Though hopefully we can look towards adding something to the server which will allow players to spend their hard earned cash.
-
Alright. I don't want something for nothing. Just take a look at the preliminary impact of removing !givecash cmd now.
(https://i.imgur.com/wJ8LFti.png)
Littlewhitey's usually (used to be) the most popular server that holds the top place of the server list all the time. But just take a look. The players action is the most honest thing here. Now look at where our 'usual' players go? They all go to the most similar server, which is EC.
I really like this server Littlewhitey's. I really do. And I know what is the goodest thing to the server. I don't want LW's going down too, but just removing !givecash cmd is a very very bad idea that has far more cons than pros.
Anyway,
The choice is yours now.
-
???
(https://i.imgur.com/fgqDVI4.png)
-
New update:
(https://i.imgur.com/xAR1XSV.png)
-
(https://i.imgur.com/v5Al9rw.jpg)
I don't see what your point is with this one. The majority of the players here are EAF and other regulars of Argonath. Besides Argonath is a full on roleplay server where as Littlewhitey's is TDM.
Not saying the your images are incorrect or the ones I've posted are correct. It just isn't possible to take a snapshot of the serverlist at a given time and use that as a basis for the player count.
-
Look, I am really tired on this one already. Just believe my word though:
Time will prove.
Bring back !givecash cmd is the only way to solve such situation.
-
It just isn't possible to take a snapshot of the serverlist at a given time and use that as a basis for the player count.
Exactly!
Anyway, I'm not standing behind this idea to bring back the !givecash command.
-
bruh
O'yes i've almost forgot that.
Cafe players are the problem of this world.
Because of they lags and spamming requesting money and 905 and stupid names like king5,king9999... And other weird nicknames , they are like a bots !! I bet if everyone of those players have a billion account!
So i rethink that givecash cmd must be removed for that, even is important for some missions but its still ok.
Btw when you look to the positive side of cafe players , they are always making lws full, and we are making spree/money on them , and the most important thing is : they are funniest players ive ever seen and played with XD.
And as hanney said if any admin tried to ban anyone of them he will face a biggest problem in the world .
SIMPILY , CAFE PLAYERS ARE THE REAL MEMES ON THIS GAME AND ON THIS SERVER XD.
-
Well removing the !give command was a good decision and it greatly reduced the beggars ingame, but there can be other way of transferring money like:
- If the player can send money to only those who are his/her friend on PAC account, and for others the give command wont work since most of the cafe beggars are immature so they won't understand the PAC stuff.
-The amount of money to be transferred by a player should be limited to 100k or less per day.
It's up to management now nevertheless the new system is fair for rich player.
-
One solution to this is to add /transfer cash, if there's ingame admin, he can allow player to transfer cash from one player to another by using some amount like
/transfer <sender> <receiver> <amount>
which would help in reducing the spam and money can be easily monitored.
-
@Emotional6uY as your nickname stand , i feel like you're arguing and reasoning by your emotions.
it's not because someone doesn't agree with you that he's stupid or whatever name you called me. Again , removing this command made a very good impact on the server. All the reasons i listed were confirmed by Hanney.
So yeah , again -1 for this suggestion.
-
Less beggars and spam pm 8) 905 dismiss, feels so good to play :)
-
I just wanna make this short now.
First, the 'new system' that Stubborn suggested above isn't that 'fair' for rich players. In actuality, that is the most unfair thing to rich players. Rich players meant to be rich because they already had an amount of money in their accounts, that they can do what they want with their money. Setting up limits is unfair to rich players because that is the same meaning of setting up limits to limit the way what rich players do with their money.
And so on, as I said, either keeping everything as it usually does, or try to force LW's to go to the way that can never turn back.
Furthermore, reply to that dumb NukerStar down there. I set this name to Emotional6uY here, was based on the radio station Emotion 98.3, and it's kind of a tribute paying to it, yea. Doesn't mean that I am what you said of:
arguing and reasoning by your emotions.
Whatsoever,
P.S. Note that I am emotional.
-
Another thing can be done. If the both players agree to send cash, the admin in the server can transfer for them.
-
Another thing can be done. If the both players agree to send cash, the admin in the server can transfer for them.
+1
-
I can actually play this game only if somebody gives me ingame money so i can buy laser, do !fix !heal. Why would u remove this command after all? i play like twice-thrice a year, howcome can i have money without playing it? cmon, man, let it go.
-
+11111111111111111111111111111111
-
+1
-
+1
-
I've experienced a same guy using different nicknames begging me for 100k every time I played.
-
+1
-
-
You are retired, so why don't you sit back and zip up?
-
@Hanney and @AdTec made it clear why the command has been removed and most likely it's not going to return.
-
@Hanney and @AdTec made it clear why the command has been removed and most likely it's not going to return.
nothing to discuss here