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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: FaTaLiTy on October 29, 2008, 11:25:39 PM
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I think it would be a good idea if there was a set amount of time a player was banned for certain offences. That way there's no favouritism possible, plus could lead to a decrease in rule breaking.
Cheats = Permanent Ban
Bug Abuse (1st Offence) = 3 days
Bug Abuse (2nd Offence) = 7 days / 1 week
Bug Abuse (3rd Offence) = 30 days / 1 month
Bug Abuse (4th Offence) = Permanent ban
etc etc etc
Also, when I say offence, I mean a ban. Before that there should be the 3 strikes (PM from admin, kick, ban (offence).
I think this idea should be implemented, it will benefit everyone. It will not be possible for players to argue that they were banned longer than another player because it would be based on the system :). A possible idea for expansion of this would be similar to a UK driving licence, your offences expire after a certain time, but would still be held on record.
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no imo, some admins may ban as soon as someone abuses a bug once, others may spectate for a long amount of time and wait till they do it a few times, so a standardised system isn't good imo
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Not a bad idea but for bug abuse wouldnt a warning be first?:
(1st Offence) = Warning
" " and so on...
(5th Offence) = Permanent ban
Simply some people may not know, itd be fair and for them who do like an excuse cant say they wasnt warned and are left with no excuse..
Reason I mention this is cause im still going though the forums and noticing things that I didnt relize where not accected i.e the sawnoff reload switching thing.. :) see in my eyes id put that down to skill rather than a bug..
thats why a warnings aways a good idea.. :-\
even if its just for the n00bs.. ;)
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lulz
for me it was
1st offence - 2 weeks
gf
it should be
1st - Kick/Warning
2 - 3 days
3rd - 1 week
4th - 3weeks - 1 month
5 - Perm
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lulz
for me it was
1st offence - 2 weeks
LOLOL
for me it was
1st offence - 1 week
GREAT fight
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I like the idea, but lets face it the ammount of reg's who KNOW THE RULES who then decide to break them because they think they cant be touched is going up.
Simply put, new players get a better deal because they didnt know any better, people who play daily who decide to do it need to be punished more
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I like the idea, but lets face it the ammount of reg's who KNOW THE RULES who then decide to break them because they think they cant be touched is going up.
Simply put, new players get a better deal because they didnt know any better, people who play daily who decide to do it need to be punished more
I understand that, but time is such a huge variable, that's why I think this system should be introduced. Then there is no arguing etc.
Also, when I say offence, I mean a ban. Before that there should be the 3 strikes (PM from admin, kick, ban (offence).
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lulz
for me it was
1st offence - 2 weeks
gf
it should be
1st - Kick/Warning
2 - 3 days
3rd - 1 week
4th - 3weeks - 1 month
5 - Perm
lulz
for me it was
1st offence - 2 weeks
LOLOL
for me it was
1st offence - 1 week
GREAT fight
I like the idea, but lets face it the ammount of reg's who KNOW THE RULES who then decide to break them because they think they cant be touched is going up.
Simply put, new players get a better deal because they didnt know any better, people who play daily who decide to do it need to be punished more
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Stuff like this is what I want to avoid (Immortality moaning about his 2 week ban), Have a system. While regular players should know better than rule breaking, they should still serve the same ban sentance. Time is such a big variable, so is best left out of the equation imo.
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well this sounds better than getting a ban without a reason.
imo all admins should use the same guidelines for all players instead of deciding the ban time by their personal issues or the mood at the moment of the ban.
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Also, when I say offence, I mean a ban. Before that there should be the 3 strikes (PM from admin, kick, ban (offence).
Why does a player (reg or not) need a pm from an admin to tell him/her to stop bug abusing. Rules come up as the "game/server" starts. There are messages in the main chat box from mods/admins and LWbot (i thinks) tellign people not to do this.
(Also, before the argument that "Some people dont count switchign as bug abuse and need telling" comes up, If ur unsure what bug abusing counts as you should ask, not be told that your breaking the rules.
Also, ive seen mods/admins (and even regular players) tell players "switching is against the rules" and they carry so why not just a straight kick.
Everything else i agree with. Though other previous offences (flaming, ramming at race starts, etc) should also be taken into account.
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(Also, before the argument that "Some people dont count switching as bug abuse and need telling" comes up, If ur unsure what bug abusing counts as you should ask, not be told that your breaking the rules.
Ok can someone point me in the right direction..
Cause apart from the forums I wouldnt had known about switching and im pretty sure that isnt in the rules when you join server!
Is there other bugs I need to be aware of?
Dont wanna get kicked for not knowing since you guys seem to be running a zero tolerance server!
I agree you need to be hard on persistent cheaters and non listeners.. but there are at least a few genuine people that genuinely dont know/aren't aware of some of the less obvious rules I.E the ones that dont pop up on your screen when you join the server..!
I hate excuses as much as the rest of you..
so if you leave people no excuse by being blatantly obvious about whats accepted it makes it a hell of alot easier to kick or ban when the rules have been broken!!
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[sarcasm]u guys are incredibly understanding of situations
im like in shock[/sarcasm]
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And yea all admins should be on the same page.
Some admins administrate the switch rule differently then others.
Some admins even break the rule themselves...buy not reloading uzi's.
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When the game starts up its says (rougly)
No Cbuggin, 2shot, bus abuse
This includes switching - ALLOW YOUR WEAPONS TO RELOAD
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Also, diffrent admins do have diffrent rules but they normally seem to be roughly on the same page -excep the ban times differ o.0
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When the game starts up its says (rougly)
No Cbuggin, 2shot, bus abuse
This includes switching - ALLOW YOUR WEAPONS TO RELOAD
-.- Can rly get anymore blatant imo
Also, diffrent admins do have diffrent rules but they normally seem to be roughly on the same page -excep the ban times differ o.0
Ban times differ if the admins dislikes/likes the player or not. pretty obvious
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Two people there saying the problem I hope to solve - ban time differences.
I see no reason to not implement the system, it's flawless imo... be nice if one of the management team implemented this...
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It would be great imo.
So no favoritism
Because there are some regs out there that got 2 days for switching.
And others alot more then that.
So The system would prevent that
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If you think a admin is breaking the rules then get evidence and send it to a lvl 3 admin, simple as.
Some admins administrate the switch rule differently then others.
Yes some admins ban as soon as someone does it more then 3 times, some 5. Some even put out warnings just before the ban. Do people listen? Do people care? No. They carry on, and still people complain when they are banned after the 3rd time for it.
I do like the 3 strikes and your out rule tho, it should be applied to all bug's / broken rules
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If every admin follows my system, there will never be a justified cause for complaint.
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Exactly what revo said.
Some admins allow u to not reload tecs.. Some dont.
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that's the thing too.
I really think an exact rule should be written out about switching, and not just 'reload your guns'.
IE: what weapons you have to wait for reload with, a rule[known at least to admins, if you think it should be kept secret] of how many times someone has to switch in a time period for a ban. Ban times depending on the switching amount...
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Could we have an update on if this is going to be implemented please...
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If you think a admin is breaking the rules then get evidence and send it to a lvl 3 admin, simple as.
Why even bother doing that if they :
a) don't give a shit?
b) delete my threads?
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If you think a admin is breaking the rules then get evidence and send it to a lvl 3 admin, simple as.
Why even bother doing that if they :
a) don't give a shit?
b) delete my threads?
Posting on a public forum is certainly not the place for those things, most likely why your "threads got deleted"
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OMG LULZ WHUT SERVER AM I IN, WHUT ARE ROOLS I CANT READ LULZ ADMINS ARE NUBS LULZ
i think its sad that so much thought has been put into something for ppl who cant follow rules. i for one have never been banned from any server because i can read and understand simple instructions, we dont cater for ppl who cant. ::)
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OMG LULZ WHUT SERVER AM I IN, WHUT ARE ROOLS I CANT READ LULZ ADMINS ARE NUBS LULZ
i think its sad that so much thought has been put into something for ppl who cant follow rules. i for one have never been banned from any server because i can read and understand simple instructions, we dont cater for ppl who cant. ::)
LULZ
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OMG LULZ WHUT SERVER AM I IN, WHUT ARE ROOLS I CANT READ LULZ ADMINS ARE NUBS LULZ
i think its sad that so much thought has been put into something for ppl who cant follow rules. i for one have never been banned from any server because i can read and understand simple instructions, we dont cater for ppl who cant. ::)
well yea but banning for breaking rules is different than banning for no reason. u know who I'm talking about :-*
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OMG LULZ WHUT SERVER AM I IN, WHUT ARE ROOLS I CANT READ LULZ ADMINS ARE NUBS LULZ