Punish helikilling

[Alex0]

Sry Slice just Hlikill is nice ... Now what remov Helikill and DB = lost all ppl this server  -1

You means that this server only have DB and helikill, xD

[Leytone]

This is imposible slice!  not DB ! not helikill ! not[what is next?]!...................    -1

[Alex0]

This is imposible slice!  not DB ! not helikill ! not[what is next?]!...................    -1

XD Leytoneeee, what are without DB and helikill right?, the end of the world for you ahah

[BikeDriver]

lol yesterday i was fighting with some HIGHLY annoying db faggot but i was SUPER amused 
i flamed and raged all the time but it still was funny....

but with helikill its something totally different.... everytime i get helikill i just think "cool, get lost". it doesnt turn me on at all. i just think its pathetic. i always did. of course i vote +1 for this. i love db and i love db wars. its AWESOME if a skilled player tries to kill some good dber. its super amusing - but helikill is imo just annoying and retarded ... of course for the newbs who join the server and get db killed its retarded too... but i guess the guys who /q directly after a db kill will /q because of some other thing anyway.

and:
there is another big difference between db and helikill..
you can easily chase down some driver-byer but with helikill its different. you cant just chase down a heli because its faster than you. the helikiller can avoid you easily, he just flys behind some building and you cant do anything. rustlers wont work either.. its nearly impossible because they need a shitload of OPEN space to turn around.
for example my favorite fag s3rs the wannabe helikiller: always when his heli got low health he just went back to admin roof and picked up a new one. there wasnt anything you could do about it.

dbers are no problem. you can easily kill them because you actually can hunt them without problems. of course you need the skills for killing them too...

imo helikill should be punished too. or removed completly.

[Simon]

The invisible walls idea brought up is not a good one, what if I actually want to fly in and pick up some people at NAM? I can only think of really ugly inefficient, dodgy hacks to disable helikilling.

As for the poll, it depends on the punishment. I would vote no if the punishment was something stupid like -1 kill stats, instant kill of killer or punishment menus. However, I would vote yes if it was a realistic/believable way to punish the heli kill.

The punishment could be to make the helicopter start burning up after a kill, because is a person really gonna just flick into helicopter blades with no damage done to the helicopter? Maybe add some realistic "bounce" effect (using velocities), so the helicopter bounces away and doesn't explode in the middle of the fighting. This is the sort of punishment I'd like to see if punishment is voted in. It may not be uber effective but it's a way of discouraging it (since the helicopter flyer may die if they suck), it would however stop helikill rampages in a single helicopter.

@ Slice: Can you make it so we can change our votes? I have voted no, but would like to remove my vote.

[Slice]

ya u can change the vote now

[Disco]

Well msot people voted no so u have to change nothing.

[Gryphus_One]

OFF-TOPIC: Leytone, you will get that ENORMOUS signature removed again...

ON-TOPIC: If we are gonna remove or punish all the annoying things, we better close the server.
Besides, I already said that there are few things to do with vehicles, so punishing helikilling would make things even worse, not only because heli pilots would get bored, but also because Rustler pilots would lose the fun of shooting helis.

i didn't have removing helicopters in mind. more like punishing if you helikill more than x amount of times in x minutes or something.

I suggested something similar for dbers but they didn't like it.

[Quickplay]

Simple question. The "nam wars". for example, used to be a lot more fun without 4-5 helis in the air ruining it.
Helikilling is just getting too excessive lately so I'd say let's get rid of it. It also pushes players away since they get pissed off and quit the server.

totally agree, +1
i hate helikills, i consider them lame as db even if most of people don't think so

[Gryphus_One]

And why can't be there other ways of killing? why do we have to be limited to only one and unique style of fighting? are we gonna punish any kill that is not done the way that some want? don't people have the right to play how they prefer? do we really have to give preference to only one kind of players and discriminate all the others? shouldn't be there a big variety of types of players, each one with his own skills?
Besides, helikilling needs no punishment, it's already hard enough (harder than db).

But meanwhile, if you are annoyed by helikillers, call me!!! Rustler services, low prices!!

[AJP]

Again, I really think the only thing worth removing is a few mavericks (leviathans and big helis are no problem) and make them just a bit less accessible. Helikill and rustlers aren't the problem, excess of them is.

[[R]Qwerbeet_rulstler]

i voted NO , because i need easy victims as these helicopters