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Offline [Sx]Firefly[UB]

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Player Server Moderating
« on: December 04, 2009, 10:26:40 AM »
ok ok I know this is long, but please read as much as you can, I think this will help out the server a lot!



A new player level, No-Admin moderation. A player level between Regular and Moderator.
Currently Moderator is set to level 1, admin to level 2, etc.
How bout a "Power Player" level, level 1, while moderator level is level 2, admin level 3, management level 4 etc.

It might not necessarily be called Power Player, its just the first name that comes to mind

My suggestion is that, regular players, who is highly active in-game, knows all the rules, played a lot of hours with much experience etc, should get a level 1 with one simple ability:

To be able to vote-kick a hacker or rule-breaker when an admin is not around or afk.

Before you say this has been suggested before, there are a lot of changes and restrictions, and I think it will work out great. (admins always say they have a life, well this is a way to help the server while they're busy!)

The following is just an rough sketch but it gets the point across...

Power Players can kick hackers/rulebreakers on a vote based system, and also /spectate and gets a copy of any /report
for example if power player (id 4) types /vkick 13 health hacks, all the other "power players" will get a message that says "ID 4 request player 13 to be kicked for: health hacks", type /v 13 to confirm.

Power players can only /spectate the ID that has been brought up for voting.

If around 80% of the power players type /v 13, ID 13 will get kicked for "health hacks", etc.
If theres say, 5 power players on, then 4 /v is needed to kick, if 10 online, 8 /v needed, etc. etc.

There might be another thing, where a moderator (without an admin) can ban a hacker with the voting system.
same idea, but the Mod would type /vban 13 hacks, and around 80% of power players will need to type /vban confirm for the player to be banned.

With this system, the admins can stare at IRC a little less, Players won't be stuck with a full-on hacker spamming /report 100 times, simple rulebreakers like shooting at race can be kicked without admin's interference, faster and more efficient, its not only a backup system for no-admin situation, but also to assist the admins in maintaining rule and order in the server at times.



now to list out all the arguments I can see for it.
If a power player abuses the /v system, or a few power players abuses the system, their /v will be permanently removed, or in some cases, the power player could be banned a certain amount of time for the abuse, etc.

If a power player starts /vkick, but the kick is determined to be a bad kick, after 3 "false" kicks within 1 month, the power players involved in the kicks loses their level until further assessment

If there is 3 or less power players, all the votes are needed to kick, if there is only 1 power player, the player can make the decision to kick, but if it is a false kick, the player loses their level for an extended period of time. (couple weeks, etc)

To be a power player, there must be some strict requirements, such as must have 300+ hours in-game, no extensive flaming history, does not break any rules often, and be able to understand english to some extent. power players will need to be responsible, any abuse, spam, or flame of the /v system will result in an immediate level removal...


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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 10:44:50 AM »
I read the whole thing, I honestly think it's a good idea but there is one more problem.

With the low player count there is at times currently on the server, with only 8 votes the player could be kicked. This could be easily abused somehow. Also I think that 'powered players' would vote kick laggers, lamers or DB'ers.

All in all I think it's something we could easily administrate, and overlook so it's not abused. So I vote yes.

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 12:03:29 PM »

If there is 3 or less power players, all the votes are needed to kick, if there is only 1 power player, the player can make the decision to kick, but if it is a false kick, the player loses their level for an extended period of time. (couple weeks, etc)


Thats hard I think. Everyone made/make some misstakes. So I think it´s a bit hard. But all in all great idea.

And @ your last point: How you can get a "power player". Who should vote that. Admins !? But how should they choose them. Just regulars. Just over 300+ hours. Must be on forum etc. I think thats a hard decission for admins :/. But not my problem :) . And there are a lot of regulars I think. They all know the rules etc. So there would be everytime someone who is annyoed cause HE is no "Power Player"

All in all great idea. There are often times in that is no admin/mod on.
So +1 from me too
« Last Edit: December 04, 2009, 12:06:29 PM by CranK_Max »

I had to laugh xD

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 01:13:55 PM »
i give it +1
its a great idea cause sometimes u get anoyed when there is a cheater and no admin online.
As i said great idea +1 but the only problem as crank said that there are many regular players.
If this happens i will like to be oone if possible :D

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 01:21:17 PM »
Yep,there are a lot of regulars,maybe can admins choose 20,30,40 etc. regular players for "moderating" for those who feel that they are responsible
All in all +1 from me

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 01:23:45 PM »
If this happens i will like to be oone if possible :D

You see, (nothing against you Shadow) everyone want´s to be someone of them. So we have to see that like getting a mod (not the same). Admins choose them and we have to accept that :) . If the suggestion would get accepted

I had to laugh xD

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 01:26:45 PM »
dont worry crank i wouldnt get anoyed if i dont get choosed

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 01:44:15 PM »
Stop dreaming. First the suggestion needs to be accepted, then it needs to be created. So hold your horses.

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 01:56:27 PM »
well thats a really nice idea, skynet_firefly xDD i voted yes, and i think its really good..
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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 02:06:58 PM »
I read the whole thing, I honestly think it's a good idea but there is one more problem.

With the low player count there is at times currently on the server, with only 8 votes the player could be kicked. This could be easily abused somehow. Also I think that 'powered players' would vote kick laggers, lamers or DB'ers.

All in all I think it's something we could easily administrate, and overlook so it's not abused. So I vote yes.

+1, and amen.

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 10:49:23 PM »
I suggested before that trusted players only can get some kind of a power to vote for kicking a players or so, I believe it was denied  :-\

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 11:21:31 PM »
we hat u bloodster thats why
+1 ESPECIALLY FOR MY TIMEZONE
there is always someone shooting the hell out of us with infinate ammo

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 07:30:21 AM »
good idea but admins can do this more accurately
banning opportunity should not be given to anyone except admins

Offline BiG_Sm0k3

Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 07:04:54 PM »
good idea but admins can do this more accurately
banning opportunity should not be given to anyone except admins

It´s kick* with votekick.
I´d like this idea.

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Re: Player Server Moderating
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 07:58:19 PM »
good idea  :) +1