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Offline [JOKER]Miczi

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[Rejected]"teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« on: February 13, 2010, 10:20:57 PM »
Here is a genesis of my idea, you don't have to read it, if u are bored just scroll the page down to the things in bold.

About an hour ago, when I was playing on LW's, I took 1,5kk from bank to buy props. About 30 secs later someone noticed that Ive got some cash and I recieved a pm "hey man, can u gimme some money?". My first answer was something like "fuck off, earn it!", but then I had an inspiration :D I reminded myself the post of Roach of someone, saying that we should help new ppl instead of increasing stats on them. Ive pmed that guy that ill give him my first benefit from the props im going to buy, and Ill teach him how to buy props. However he left the server before Ive recieved the money, due to him I had a real inspiration, much more original than the first one. Instead of giving the new players 50k for register, as someone suggested before, it would be much better for everyone if we make it profittable for regulars to help newbies :D

A summary of the changes that you want
 Here is how I see it. A new player after registering will be able to choose a... hmm... teacher? master? guide? Nvm how u call it, I mean a regular player who will help him to start. Newbie would be able to have only one teacher. Regulars will be able to see if someone is a newbie (by colour or something) so that they can offer him to become his teacher. If newbie accept him to be his teacher, regular will have to pay 50k, 100k (dunno, maybe the more u give, the more time it lasts for) to the newbie (not by /givecash, but some other command, which will make him become teacher). The newbie can use the money however he wants. So why is it a teacher, not just a sponsor? Cuz if he will teach the newbie how to play, it'll be more profitable for him. For example, for every 50kills of the newbie, teacher will recieve a bonus - money or something from the bonus shop (chainsaw, turtle and all that staff) or maybe donator status for a week (or something cool from 3,0, maybe a spawn car or house, dunno). Of course if newbie kills his teacher it will be -1 kill or something to prevent ppl from abusing. The teacher could also recieve bonus for 50 hours of playtime of his pupil, every earned 1kk, good killrate etc. The newbie would be available to have only one teacher, but the the teacher can have infinite ammount of newbies under his wings (we want regulars to help the bigger ammount of players, right?)

The advantages of this change happening
- It will add a new, interesting element to the gameplay
- It will make regulars help new ppl
- It will keep new ppl by the game for longer
- It's much better than just giving more spawn cash or weps for newbies, cuz it is profitable for both, regulars and newbies
- It will make ppl not only help newbies to get money, but to explain everything about the gameplay (cuz the better they train they're pupils the bigger will be the chance that they will be good, and teachers would recieve bonus for this)
  Im sure I could think about some more, but theese are the main advantages.

The disadvantages of this change happening
- If regulars would not like to use this feature, the newbies will still have hard start
- New players can still run from the server in the first day of they play, cuz they will not find anyone to help them so quickly and everyone will own them like it is happenning now.

Any script snippets which provide the feature that you want

What do you think about this idea?



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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 10:39:26 PM »
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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 10:49:49 PM »
I'd say it's too complicated.
Who for one decides that someone is capable of being such a 'teacher'?
If you're going to depend on the time that the teacher has spent on the server it's already full of leaks, in my opinion.
Why? Because there are plenty of players out there that regardless of their playingtime ain't all that.
Kill/death ratio, same story (though it gives a small indication).

Also I think that if someone wants to 'help' an other he/she will do that when that person feels like.
When one gets paid, surely more people will help but I doubt the quality would be as good as one that does it from heart.
(from heart? SAMP? ye, serious business I know)

As for new players 'running' from the server because they're not being helped/'pros' owning them..
It's sad if it happens massively (from the 'pros' side I mean), but on the other hand everyone started out from zero and if you're going to quit that fast instead of taking your time to figure shit out, it's a bit weak on the side of new players as well imo.

The idea of helping new players, cool.
The concept you made for it, bit complicated.

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 10:50:04 PM »
I think that will be to confusing for the noobs but good idea.

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 05:19:03 AM »
I've been playing littlewhiteys for 5 years.. Who's my "master"?

Becuse i still suck. =P

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 10:07:52 AM »
Wallie, u are a bit right, it won't be as good as helping from heart. But how many ppl on LW today help from heart? When they see a new nickname they just shoot. When it'll be profitable for them, they'll at least give this 50 or 100k to the newbie.
Who is capable for being teacher? Everyone. Everyone, who has got enough money to pay to the newbie. It depends only on the newbie if he will accept another or he will accept someone who knows how to play. Nvm - in my opinion it's still better than giving more weps or cash for spawn, as it was suggested.


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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 10:24:25 AM »
So we give the newbie 100k of our cash, then kill the newbie, get our cash back, then sod off and benefit every time he gets a kill.


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I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand

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We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it

And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 10:44:01 AM »
I've been playing littlewhiteys for 5 years.. Who's my "master"?

Becuse i still suck. =P
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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 11:23:00 AM »
Well, i think that it's to good for newbie, but it keeps more players in LW. +0.1 for this idea.

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 11:35:10 AM »
I've been playing littlewhiteys for 5 years.. Who's my "master"?

Becuse i still suck. =P
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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 11:57:26 AM »
It's a great idea, but it's too complicated, what about just make a chatchannel for noobteaching? And then they'll maybe get some help through chatting and duelling with  other players there.

If a noob joins the channel, also a scripted talkingbot could say from time to time like "Remember to run in zigzag moves in fights!" etc..
And then they can type like /fighthelp ; which makes a bot start, the one who type the command, can spec the bot, while the bot explains C-bug, Switching, Zigzag moves etc.

I actually think i could script this one for you.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2010, 12:04:20 PM by [V]Fuse »

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2010, 01:15:07 PM »
Well,when i started this game my master was Scott...xD.He showed me whole server with his heli,so it would be nice to help newbies
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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2010, 03:13:41 PM »
I've been playing littlewhiteys for 5 years.. Who's my "master"?

Becuse i still suck. =P
O really, youve been playing for 5 years? Wow, i didnt know that you played GTA SA even before it got released on the PC, not even talking about SA-MP.
well dominator is still the fucked up forum whore he always was, i am glad that i never see u somewhere ingame.

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 03:31:31 PM »
I've been playing littlewhiteys for 5 years.. Who's my "master"?

Becuse i still suck. =P
O really, youve been playing for 5 years? Wow, i didnt know that you played GTA SA even before it got released on the PC, not even talking about SA-MP.
lol

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Re: "teacher - pupil" newbie training system
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2010, 04:07:03 PM »
Dont know when sa-mp was first released but san andreas was out for the pc in 2005, ie. 5 years ago.


We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it

And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

(Ooh give you up) (Ooh give you up) (Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give (give you up) (Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give (give you up)

We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand