[I][Poll] 50k Sent to the bank when registering

[AJP]

Benny and Miczi, although interesting points about unbalance between regulars and newbies, that's not really what this suggestion is about. There is a topic somewhere I made about removing the banks or setting them to 1mill and 2mill for donators. Then changing up the special shop items and it's done. IF that still doesn't work then it's obvious permanent banking system should be removed.

Again tho, this isn't the topic to discuss that.

[Gryphus_One]

Sorry Scott for going off-topic again, but Miczi, you are always saying how good the old system (only deagle and banks not saving) was for newbies and how bad the current system is for them, but if players spawn with only deagle and money is hard to make, newbies will always have only deagle, deagle and deagle, and even if regulars have only that same weapon too and aren't killing newbies all the time (because they chase the richest players), that doesn't prevent newbies from getting bored very soon because they cannot kill anybody (no matter if regulars don't kill them either). However, if there are good default weapons and money is easy to earn, newbies will have faster access to good weapons and better chances to kill, even if regulars have better weapons too.

Also, with the old system everyone was chasing the richest players instead of the newbies, but not always the richest players are the best fighters: for example I suck at fighting but if I wanna host a race I will have to carry much money and everyone would be chasing me. Also, if a rich player takes a Rustler, almost nobody will chase him.

In summary: for a new player it's funner to have good weapons and some chances to kill (even if his enemies have good weapons too and kill him sometimes), than everyone having shitty weapons and not being able to kill (even if he's not killed so often). The only advantage of the old system was that regulars weren't killing newbies all the time, but:

Newbie not killing anyone + nobody killing him = no action = bore

Whereas with the current system, although it has the problem of regulars killing newbies for stats, the situation is this:

Newbie killing some players + some players killing him = action = fun

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[AJP]

Gryphus you don't understand what he's trying to say. A regular wont always have guns if he has no money in the bank to purchase them straight away. He'll have to earn them by getting cash. That's how there would be balance between newbies and regulars.

[Gryphus_One]

Yeah Scott I DID understand what Miczi says (and he had already said this same thing other times before).

A regular wont always have guns if he has no money in the bank to purchase them straight away. He'll have to earn them by getting cash. That's how there would be balance between newbies and regulars.

I know that, but that also affects the newbies, and as I said for a newbie it's better to have good weapons (even if regulars have them too) than everyone with only deagle. You say that there's balance between newbies and regulars if they all have deagle, but there's also balance if they all have good weapons.

Removing the banks saving is good ONLY IF access to money and weapons is easy: good default weapons, car exports, autohosted races and other ways to earn money easily. I don't want to imagine how terrible the old LW had to be when bank didn't save your money and there weren't good default weapons, nor car exports, nor autohosted races. Many old players say those were good times but that had to be due to only the high number of players in that moment (and no, the high number of players wasn't because of that gamemode but due to other reasons).

[[JOKER]Miczi]

I don't want to offtop the thread again, so I will answer you here:
http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14009.0.html

[Яasta]

sounds good...

[Gryphus_One]

Back on topic:

Or you could buy 1 property for say $20.000 and buy spawnweapons for $20.000 and buy normal weapons for $10.000, go kill some "noobs" with lots of cash while gaining cash from properties.... or something, my point is anyone who has some skills can make 1 million out of that $50.000 in no time

in my old prop days of 0.2x i turned 50k into 500k.

It's enough to start with, you can buy a property, then with that property buy 2 more.

Many of you are saying that with 50k or 100k you can earn lots of money and get your bank full by buying properties, but take into account that newbies don't know anything about properties, so no matter if you give them 50k or 100k, they will spend it all in a short time.
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[eDiT]

True,  although I am neutral on this, I feel like 50k will give newbies a little too much of a "head start"

[robbynab]

Back on topic:

Or you could buy 1 property for say $20.000 and buy spawnweapons for $20.000 and buy normal weapons for $10.000, go kill some "noobs" with lots of cash while gaining cash from properties.... or something, my point is anyone who has some skills can make 1 million out of that $50.000 in no time

in my old prop days of 0.2x i turned 50k into 500k.

It's enough to start with, you can buy a property, then with that property buy 2 more.

Many of you are saying that with 50k or 100k you can earn lots of money and get your bank full by buying properties, but take into account that newbies don't know anything about properties, so no matter if you give them 50k or 100k, they will spend it all in a short time.
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/help -> /commands -> /tips -> /properties
^like this, not the exact commands but well, anyone should know about /help, as it's announced in main chat every ~10 minutes(?) Was, somewhen, anyway.

Thought about how we got known to properties? Asking how to make money; visiting the blips on the map and finding it out. Good ol' fun times.

[Gryphus_One]

Yeah but the property system is gonna be changed, to avoid cash farming (people staying in banks and receiving money from their properties without doing anything more). With the new system, it won't be so easy to earn lots of money from properties. Therefore, that argument of "if we give much money for registration, they will get their banks full" becomes invalid.

[Gryphus_One]

Yeah, but the other ways of earning money (like the car exports) don't depend on how much money you already have, and therefore aren't affected by how much you get for registering.
People were talking about people using the registration money to buy properties and get their banks full, and it's then when I say that with the new property system that won't be so easy, and therefore there's no problem in giving 50k or 100k for registering.

[Gryphus_One]

the lazy ass idiots that run around on LW thesedays.

Ohh yeah, and you are an intellectual and a superior being, right?