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False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« on: November 11, 2010, 04:10:44 PM »
First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion most people have voted no, there are other polls like this, like this or like this one that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.

But apart from that, if really nobody here cares about Rustlers is just because, as the server offers almost nothing for them, players who are interested in Rustlers don't join the server, or just join it but leave it after a short time. That's why I find this funny:

Only the R gang uses rustlers on a large scale and they are hardly every online except for qwerbeet hes on regularly, other than that no one uses it except gryphus together with qwerbeet.

He says "the R-gang is hardly online"... well, of course!! how do you expect them to be online if there's almost nothing for them? imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".

Also, if players currently aren't taking an interest in Rustlers, is because they don't give anything like money or stats. However, imagine for just a moment the old LW, in which banks weren't full and everyone was fighting hard for every single dollar. Imagine that in that moment, someone had made a Rustler event with 1 million prize for the winner: a lot of people would have joined it!!!
Many people play only those things that give something in return: if transport missions and car exports didn't give any money, do you think that anybody would bother doing them? or if helikilling didn't count to the stats, do you think there would be so many helikillers? no, everyone would be just saying "nobody cares about transports, exports and helicopters". THIS is what is currently happening with Rustlers.
The only situation in which we could truly say that nobody cares about Rustlers, would be if, with having things scripted for them, nobody were using them, but obviously this is not the situation.

Besides, Qwerbeet and I have seen some newbies that, sick of being killed all the time, instead of raging /q like others, just started to fly instead, seeking freedom and safety. However, as the server doesn't have anything for them, they were soon getting bored and finally leaving the server. I remember a recent case, in which a new player was making questions about planes, and I told him about a plane server that I know. He just left LW and I saw him playing in that other server for a long time, so LW just lost another new player, who probably would have stayed here if he had had something for him. Then, some people complain that I tell newbies to go to other servers, but what else do you expect? I guide newbies to those servers in which they can stand a chance and have something!!

It's true that Rustler pilots aren't a majority in all Samp, but they are enough to make a difference: that plane server that I have talked about, usually has more players than LW, and before that I was playing in a server called "Steal the plane" that had about 20 players, but it had to close due to cheaters and technical issues.
Take into account that planes are one of the most unique features of San Andreas and Samp: shooting on foot, racing and other things can be done also in VC-MP or GTA4, or even in other games that aren't GTA, however flying can be done only in San Andreas/Samp (well, it's true that VC has planes, but the flying in that game is shitty). Ohh, and before someone says something like "if you want to fly planes go playing Tom Clancy's Hawx", what I want is a game/server in which you can do everything: fly, drive, shoot, swim etc. and Samp is almost the only one that can offer all of that.

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 04:52:57 PM »
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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 05:01:32 PM »
tl;dr²

How about stop to change "myths" ? No one will read it and you waste your time.
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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 05:08:42 PM »
First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion most people have voted no, there are other polls like this, like this or like this one that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.


1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.

He says "the R-gang is hardly online"... well, of course!! how do you expect them to be online if there's almost nothing for them? imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".

3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.


Also, if players currently aren't taking an interest in Rustlers, is because they don't give anything like money or stats. However, imagine for just a moment the old LW, in which banks weren't full and everyone was fighting hard for every single dollar. Imagine that in that moment, someone had made a Rustler event with 1 million prize for the winner: a lot of people would have joined it!!!

4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..

thats why nobody uses them.

Many people play only those things that give something in return: if transport missions and car exports didn't give any money, do you think that anybody would bother doing them? or if helikilling didn't count to the stats, do you think there would be so many helikillers? no, everyone would be just saying "nobody cares about transports, exports and helicopters". THIS is what is currently happening with Rustlers.
The only situation in which we could truly say that nobody cares about Rustlers, would be if, with having things scripted for them, nobody were using them, but obviously this is not the situation.

5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added  to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...


Besides, Qwerbeet and I have seen some newbies that, sick of being killed all the time, instead of raging /q like others, just started to fly instead, seeking freedom and safety. However, as the server doesn't have anything for them, they were soon getting bored and finally leaving the server. I remember a recent case, in which a new player was making questions about planes, and I told him about a plane server that I know. He just left LW and I saw him playing in that other server for a long time, so LW just lost another new player, who probably would have stayed here if he had had something for him. Then, some people complain that I tell newbies to go to other servers, but what else do you expect? I guide newbies to those servers in which they can stand a chance and have something!!

6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.



It's true that Rustler pilots aren't a majority in all Samp, but they are enough to make a difference: that plane server that I have talked about, usually has more players than LW, and before that I was playing in a server called "Steal the plane" that had about 20 players, but it had to close due to cheaters and technical issues.
Take into account that planes are one of the most unique features of San Andreas and Samp: shooting on foot, racing and other things can be done also in VC-MP or GTA4, or even in other games that aren't GTA, however flying can be done only in San Andreas/Samp (well, it's true that VC has planes, but the flying in that game is shitty). Ohh, and before someone says something like "if you want to fly planes go playing Tom Clancy's Hawx", what I want is a game/server in which you can do everything: fly, drive, shoot, swim etc. and Samp is almost the only one that can offer all of that.

7. if LW had 100 new rustler fuckfaces and db whores like you i (and many others) would quit instantly.

8. i claim that for 1 rustler fucker on the server, 3 other people quit.


9. lw will never be a server where you can get anything but a disrespected, unwated tard using your fucking rustlers. so just stop crying.

10. your post fails and so you do.
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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 05:20:17 PM »
i'll never read all this treaty, but i just lol at this:
First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion most people have voted no, there are other polls like this, like this or like this one that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.
rotfl.

it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us

Without opening again loads of topics or reading tons of long posts like this, there's only one thing to say: devilboy made a poll, and it's going mainly for the "NO" answer, so what? stop. If "NO" wins, that means it will NOT be done, ez.

bye

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 05:24:11 PM »
1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.

1-Believe me that if the average player count on the server is about 20, the R-gang members and me (cos I'm not in that gang) are about 5.
2-Lol? :o

3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.

Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!
Besides, are you saying that Samp community is stupid or what?? ???

4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..

thats why nobody uses them.

Ohh, too hard to control... but aren't you one of those who like hard things and not easy ones?? ::)
Pathetic damage? then how do you explain that a Rustler can destroy another?

5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added  to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...

Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.

6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.

A server that bans someone who is honest and wants the best for others, only deserves the most painful of the deaths...

7. if LW had 100 new rustler fuckfaces and db whores like you i (and many others) would quit instantly.

8. i claim that for 1 rustler fucker on the server, 3 other people quit.

Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 05:31:41 PM »
3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.

Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!

it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2010, 05:34:56 PM »
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)


Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 05:36:28 PM »
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)

Are you joking? compare the difficulty of helikilling with the one of killing with Rustlers.

Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)

Prove it then. ;)

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2010, 05:38:34 PM »
3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.

Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!

it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us

Quickplay you edited your message while I was typing my reply (or after it) and I didn't see that part. Yeah, I can go to other servers and that's what I sometimes do, but if you say "go to another server" to every single player who is not a dmer instead of making things to make him stay, then I don't know why there are so many cryies about the server being empty and stuff... ::)

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 05:40:30 PM »
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)

Are you joking? compare the difficulty of helikilling with the one of killing with Rustlers.

Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)

Prove it then. ;)

did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.

you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.


gryphus your topic fails completly. i countered every single argument that was in your post. i destroyed youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 05:43:49 PM »

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2010, 05:44:07 PM »
3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.

Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!

it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us

Quickplay you edited your message while I was typing my reply (or after it) and I didn't see that part. Yeah, I can go to other servers and that's what I sometimes do, but if you say "go to another server" to every single player who is not a dmer instead of making things to make him stay, then I don't know why there are so many cryies about the server being empty and stuff... ::)
i don't have to say that to every player who comes in here, cause IF he comes here is because HE WANTS to be in a dm server, otherwise he would have gone in a race server or in a rustlers fights server.
a "single player who is not a dmer", wouldn't join LW, that's the point lol

LW is mainly a dm server (how many times will we have to say this?  :-[) since several years, and once it had 200/200 players, so it's not a problem of putting ruslters fights or something lmao

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 05:49:26 PM »
did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.

you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.

Yeah I have tryied hk a few times and although it's hard, I have probably hked more people in those few attempts than in all my Rustler flying hours. Take into account that a Rustler cannot stop in the air, so trying to kill someone with its guns is like trying to kill with db while driving at max speed. Not to mention the problems of flying through narrow streets... ::)

And indeed because it's hard to make stats with Rustlers, is why they should give something else, like air races or money for flying through some difficult checkpoints.

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Re: False myth: "nobody cares about Rustlers"
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 05:52:56 PM »
did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.

you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.

Yeah I have tryied hk a few times and although it's hard, I have probably hked more people in those few attempts than in all my Rustler flying hours. Take into account that a Rustler cannot stop in the air, so trying to kill someone with its guns is like trying to kill with db while driving at max speed. Not to mention the problems of flying through narrow streets... ::)

And indeed because it's hard to make stats with Rustlers, is why they should give something else, like air races or money for flying through some difficult checkpoints.

nobody gives a fuck about those 3 rustler idiots. one of you causes multiple people to leave LW. im sure of it.

here i destroyed the last ones of your retarded argmuents:


1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.

1-Believe me that if the average player count on the server is about 20, the R-gang members and me (cos I'm not in that gang) are about 5.
2-Lol? :o



1. you and your friends are not playing 24/7.
you and your friends might be a 1/100 of  the current human beings playing on LW. in average of course.

2. you find it funny that you and your friends contribute a big part to the ruin of LW?

4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..

thats why nobody uses them.

Ohh, too hard to control... but aren't you one of those who like hard things and not easy ones?? ::)
Pathetic damage? then how do you explain that a Rustler can destroy another?
because its auto-aiming. like hell.




5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added  to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...

Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.

there are no helikilling stats. there are no rustler killing stats.

there only are the killing stats. rustlers and helis count aswell so stop talking bullshit.



6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.

A server that bans someone who is honest and wants the best for others, only deserves the most painful of the deaths...

you are not allowed to give any server IP's without asking an admin who allows it. training server IPs are OK but telling a newbie to go to that and that server and to forget about LW is completly disallowed. the rules say it.
if you dont accept and follow the rules then dont join the server.


so what about getting lost now?
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