Helikills

[Murder4Life]

Hello guys,

I've that suggestion in my mind since long time, to do something against helikilling peoples.

I know already, that some of you would / will disagree with me ( most likely those, who helikill peoples constantly )

...and some of you, would agree with me, some wouldnt / will not care.

Helikilling is something that makes the server less attractive in my opinion. It happened to me so many times, that i was hanging arround at a place such as the place arround

north ammunation in las venturas, then thought to refill my armor cause it was missing. Then running out of ammunation, like two seconds outside, and i got helikilled.

Also many times i've not watched the map and wanted to go out of my vehicle, bam, helikilled and literatelly just a second after leaving the vehicle.

And maybe the most annoying thing about it is, that when you have very nice fights, with different peoples ( a group fight , or a all vs all ) or either a duel vs some1 on the street

and within one second, a guy with a heli comes and destroy the whole nice fight with those heliblades.

Some of you guys are annoyed by drive-by's , some of you are annoyed by ground shot kills or whatever there is to complain about.

But you still have a chance to get away from getting killed by these actions. Not when some1 is helikilling. He simply need only one second , to kill even groups of like 3-5 peoples.

And GTA is a videogame, which is compared to the real life, to the real lifestyle. Driving cars, walking arround, flying helicopters or planes, shooting at peoples, doing drive by's etc, etc... but where the hell did you see a guy flying a helicopter, trying to kill peoples with his helicopter's blades, when they walk on the street between houses or so...

My suggestion is to either forbid helikills, or remove the damage of the heliblades to players. You could also reduce the damage of the heliblades to players ( if that is possible ), i can live with that too, no question, so it doesnt happen that a player dies within one single second, when he actually has 100-200 hp or so.


Some of you probably hate me for doing this post

But in my opinion it destroys some peoples fun ( me included )

and i dont wanna destroy any others fun with this suggestion, there are still alot other options to kill people / having fun.


Greetz Murder

[BikeDriver]

or remove the damage of the heliblades to players. You could also reduce the damage of the heliblades to players ( if that is possible ), i can live with that too, no question, so it doesnt happen that a player dies within one single second, when he actually has 100-200 hp or so.

i am sure that both is impossible.

my oppinion:
i neither like helikill nor i think that it ruins the server (anymore).

it was a far bigger deal when actually good helikillers were still active.

i think its not a big deal anymore.

if you have problems locating helis then i suggest you to turn up the game volume or look at the radar before you leave your vehicle.

the point is: once you saw the heli it can be a funny fight against it. even though it is highly annoying to get your fight ruined by a helicopter guy.

[Gryphus_One]

No man, don't remove hk!!!! it's fun to chase hkers with Rustlers.
Also, hk requires high skills to be performed, so you can't use the excuse of "lame and cheap killing".
And it's true that in real life nobody does hk, but Samp is a game whose main feature is the freedom to play the way you want, and LW is already a server in which you cannot enjoy many Samp's features, so don't remove another!!!

[BikeDriver]

and LW is already a server in which you cannot enjoy many Samp's features, so don't remove another!!!

examples?

[Gryphus_One]

and LW is already a server in which you cannot enjoy many Samp's features, so don't remove another!!!

examples?

Hydras, Hunters, Vortexes, Seasparrows, RC cars, RC Barons, jetpacks, miniguns, grenades, molotovs, flamethrowers, rocketlaunchers, spraycans, fire extinguishers... do I have to mention more??
Of course I'm not suggesting to have all these things in the main dm world, because that would be chaotic, but some of them could be available in duel arena, in minigames, parallel worlds or special islands on the ocean without parallel worlds.
Also, they don't need to add new vehicles and weapons to increase the features of the server, they can script things for the current vehicles/weapons: aircombats, airraces, etc. But that's another topic...
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[Murder4Life]

or remove the damage of the heliblades to players. You could also reduce the damage of the heliblades to players ( if that is possible ), i can live with that too, no question, so it doesnt happen that a player dies within one single second, when he actually has 100-200 hp or so.

i am sure that both is impossible.

my oppinion:
i neither like helikill nor i think that it ruins the server (anymore).

it was a far bigger deal when actually good helikillers were still active.

i think its not a big deal anymore.

if you have problems locating helis then i suggest you to turn up the game volume or look at the radar before you leave your vehicle.

the point is: once you saw the heli it can be a funny fight against it. even though it is highly annoying to get your fight ruined by a helicopter guy.

i dont know with what nicks you're currently playing on this server. But fact is, there are still helikillers online ( if you need names: Nx Meow , Nx Disco, Patilla, carpediem, orn3t etc..) , and most of them do it constantly...

Means: Come online, grab a heli, annoy people nonstop with killing them when fighting others and stuff, log off.

i didnt said it ruins the server, but it makes it less attractive. ( thats my opinion, some share it, some doesnt. )

And actually i dont want to focus on radar all the time, i dont come online to locate helicopters anywhere, just to avoid getting killed within one second by their blades.

No man, don't remove hk!!!! it's fun to chase hkers with Rustlers.
Also, hk requires high skills to be performed, so you can't use the excuse of "lame and cheap killing".
And it's true that in real life nobody does hk, but Samp is a game whose main feature is the freedom to play the way you want, and LW is already a server in which you cannot enjoy many Samp's features, so don't remove another!!!

would a rule that forbids killing peoples with heliblades, destroy your fun hunting / fighting them with rustlers ? i doubt that.

it indeed is cheap and lame, thats my opinion , you dont have to share it.

but i also agree, that it affords some skills to kill peoples with heliblades, that wont change the fact anyhow, that it is extremely annoying.

yea, lw's has not too many features , which can be used by peoples, who are not admins.

but helikilling has absolutely nothing to do with it, also i never seen you helikilling before, so it's a bit weird, why you're defending them. but it's still your right.

[BikeDriver]

Hydras,
overpowered

Hunters,
overpowered

Vortexes,
overpowered

Seasparrows,
overpowered

RC cars,
retarded

RC Barons,
i agree, this one could be added to planning department

jetpacks,
overpowered

miniguns,
overpowered

grenades,
overpowered

molotovs,
overpowered

flamethrowers,
overpowered

rocketlaunchers,
overpowered

spraycans,
overpowered

fire extinguishers...
overpowered

adding this shit weapons to da causes 2 things:
- it might affect the weapon hack auto ban, it might be a big deal to implement this without causing wrong bans.
- this weapons can be abused to push your stats without getting noticed

also this crap weapons are only funny for a few duels, then its just boring. also you can join one of the few events with fun weapons.


do I have to mention more??
do i?

[mayhem]

Should be added a punishment , like the db-kill one , which destroys your tyres.
One of them is the one which takes hp from heli's pilot or the one which takes like 500hp from the helicopter.

[[JOKER]Miczi]

Bike and Gryphus, stay on topic pls.
Helikilling is only a problem when hk interrupts fight, but if a guy on foot interrupted it, it wouldnt be less annoying for me. Fighting with helis is fun, I love it and I consider myself good at it
Well what can I say, if a heli manages to creep to you, it's all your foult. Learn to check the radar all the time, thats the first advice I give to newbies on Lw. You hear a shot - check radar. You hear a heli -check radar. It is really the best possible reaction for almost everything ;d
And Im not a helikiller, I cant fly for shit. Im more like a killer OF helis xd

-1

[Murder4Life]

Should be added a punishment , like the db-kill one , which destroys your tyres.
One of them is the one which takes hp from heli's pilot or the one which takes like 500hp from the helicopter.

hey forgive, thats actually a really nice suggestion.

should be defenitely considered !

Bike and Gryphus, stay on topic pls.
Helikilling is only a problem when hk interrupts fight, but if a guy on foot interrupted it, it wouldnt be less annoying for me. Fighting with helis is fun, I love it and I consider myself good at it
Well what can I say, if a heli manages to creep to you, it's all your foult. Learn to check the radar all the time, thats the first advice I give to newbies on Lw. You hear a shot - check radar. You hear a heli -check radar. It is really the best possible reaction for almost everything ;d
And Im not a helikiller, I cant fly for shit. Im more like a killer OF helis xd

-1

sorry but, not ever1 like sto have gta sound on... i always play with my own sound.

and "learn to check the radar all the time" that doesnt fit in this case. ( my opinion )

and what you said about "it is your fault if a heli manages to creep you" , to that i can answer: if i notice a helicopter on radar, he catch me like in 2/100 cases.

but that's totally not what im talking about in this topic. im talking about those cases, where you are busy with fights, exit a vehicle or maybe you come out of a 24/7 , ammunation or whatever

and how would you manage to see the heli on radar if so? ( if you exit a building i mean ) cause the radar needs some reaction time, same as you.

and then you're most likely already dead

[[R]Qwerbeet_rulstler]

No man, don't remove hk!!!! it's fun to chase hkers with Rustlers.

Agree. It's fun to become a helikiller-killer and it's really annoying for those in helicopter.


so: Just sit in a rustler and shoot down those helis over police department and north ammu!

[Murder4Life]

No man, don't remove hk!!!! it's fun to chase hkers with Rustlers.

Agree. It's fun to become a helikiller-killer and it's really annoying for those in helicopter.


so: Just sit in a rustler and shoot down those helis over police department and north ammu!

not every1 is able to fly a rustler as properly as you and some others, to hunt / kill them.

the solution for that is to practice...every1 knows i guess.

but to use this as an argument is as ignorant as if i'd say, okay helikillers, if you cannot kill me on foot , then improve your skills on foot instead helikilling.

To repeat: i really like the suggestion of Forgive in here. I never said im only for a rule that forbids helikills.

im open for more suggestions, which could make the gameplay even with helikillers , more comfortable for everyone

[Quickplay]

Also, hk requires high skills to be performed

rofl, this is a big myth being told for years in here...even if you suck at helikilling, when you drive a heli in the crowd fighting, they don't mind at you while shooting and it's sooooooooooo easy to make even multiple helikills, so this is a good lie 

[[JOKER]Miczi]

Ive tried a few times. Always failed oh, wait! Once ive killed a guy who was afk!

[robbynab]

No man, don't remove hk!!!! it's fun to chase hkers with Rustlers.
Also, hk requires high skills to be performed, so you can't use the excuse of "lame and cheap killing".
And it's true that in real life nobody does hk, but Samp is a game whose main feature is the freedom to play the way you want, and LW is already a server in which you cannot enjoy many Samp's features, so don't remove another!!!

Weren't you one of the main guys wanting hk to be removed.