[SA] Zaibatsu Corporation

[splatterpuss]

UPDATE:
I've heard [5iN]Cunka has been banned for cheating and/or illegal modifying his game to gain advantage. This kind of behaviour is not tolerated in Zaibatsu Corporation and he has been kicked out.

You knew about this before he was banned.

[[RevC]Sirmo]

I suspected something, but didn't wan't to accuse him without any proof. As the law says: "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law"

[splatterpuss]

No you misunderstand me, I didn't say you suspected I said you knew, he told you he used a hacking client.

[[RevC]Sirmo]

No you misunderstood me, I've been told lots of things, but my philosophy is same as the law's.

[splatterpuss]

So you didn't consider him admitting he used hacks as proof that he used hacks?

Also that whole philosophy/law argument you said is just wrong.

[[RevC]Sirmo]

So you didn't consider him admitting he used hacks as proof that he used hacks?

I do not concider random sentences at all. You have any idea how many times I've heard "I f*ck yout mother" on SA-MP? Makes you think you shouldn't believe anything that's been told.

Also that whole philosophy/law argument you said is just wrong.

Enlighten me, what is wrong about it?

[Voodoo]

fuck it splatter.. zaibatsu is very good at acting a fool, especially when he has nothing else to say.

[splatterpuss]

I do not concider random sentences at all. You have any idea how many times I've heard "I f*ck yout mother" on SA-MP? Makes you think you shouldn't believe anything that's been told.

It's not a random sentence, it is a clan member of yours telling you that he uses a hacking client.
You then ask him if it works.
He replies 'yes'.
You ask 'How?'
He explains it.
You say 'nice'

Truth be told you had no problem with this guy, who admitted hacking to you, being in your clan as long as no one found out he hacked. As evidenced by the fact you said nothing negative AT ALL about him using hacks.

Enlighten me, what is wrong about it?

In law an individual is innocent until proven guilty unless like this guy did he confesses to the crime.

[[RevC]Sirmo]

It's not a random sentence, it is a clan member of yours telling you that he uses a hacking client.
You then ask him if it works.
He replies 'yes'.
You ask 'How?'
He explains it.
You say 'nice'

Truth be told you had no problem with this guy, who admitted hacking to you, being in your clan as long as no one found out he hacked. As evidenced by the fact you said nothing negative AT ALL about him using hacks.

I think you haven't paid attention to my response. I'll try to explain: Being in SA-MP community for some time now, I've understood there is more jibberis than realistic talk here (hence the example what I'm being told often). When someone says he is using hacks, I react towards it differently, this time I played along with him (as I've done several times before), sometimes I just ignore chat like that, sometimes I hit him back. And he was not in my clan since it's a gang. I had no problem with him since I didn't see anything illegal what he was doing (on the other hand, ofcourse I didn't fight him, so I couldn't know). If i see a flying car, then it's hacking, when someone standing next to me says he can fly a car, I can't accuse him of doing it before I havent seen it. Maybe you should check my logs even further, for example when some other player had recieved money from [5iN]Cunka, and asked me if it's hacked or not, what did I reply? Something like "I'm not sure, do /charity with it" pointing out again, that I wasn't sure if [5iN]Cunka was hacking or not.

In law an individual is innocent until proven guilty unless like this guy did he confesses to the crime.

He did "confess" to me, not to any administrator. In this situation by confessing I take it as "trolling" or "joking around". You can never be sure when someone is serious or full of crap in SA-MP community.

[iMJets]

if u would of suspected him you would of kicked him. Which you didn't, so you fail.

[Daniel.]

Ey man, forget this whole gang it sucks,

ALL JOIN [SA] DANIELS CORPORATION!!!!!!!!!!!!











muwhah just joking Z

[lolplz]

Ey man, forget this whole gang it sucks,

ALL JOIN [SA] DANIELS CORPORATION!!!!!!!!!!!!

we dont like jokes










muwhah just joking Z

we dont like jokes

[[RevC]Sirmo]

if u would of suspected him you would of kicked him. Which you didn't, so you fail.

I suspected him and I didn't kick him before it was sure. Enlighten me, where is the "fail" part?

[splatterpuss]

Omris it's obvious to everyone you knew/believed he hacked. The only reason you aren't banned is that when he asked you if you used mods you replied 'no never'.

If anyone tells you they use hacks again and you don't report them, especially if they are in your clan/gang, then you will be banned for almost as long as that person.

[[RevC]Sirmo]

Once again, I'm Sirmo, not Omris, you don't need to read my nickname from right to left. And once again I don't report a player of cheating when I'm not sure if he's cheating or not. Basically if you stand firm what you just posted, you should ban me because I didn't report [JOKER]Freak after he told in main chat "I use hacks". Check the logs of today's date if needed. It really doesn't matter to me how obvious it is to other players if a player hacks or not, I see people yelling out "hacker" in main chat daily, does it mean I have to report that person that's been accused? Once again, I'd like to point out, I will not report a player cheating when I haven't seen him doing it myself, it would not be justified and unfair towards the player who I would have to report of. You can keep the "especially if they are in your gang" part out, every single player is treated the same.