How could we let this happen to our server?

[AJP]

I would say would I feel about this, but my post would probably get deleted.

enkei, the server started losing players after the official list was removed and traded for the hosted servers list instead. There have virtually been no significant updates for years and that's not because people haven't put effort, but because so many people have modified this old script that it's just a mess of bugs and adding something worth scripting without bringing more bugs is more time consuming than just re-writing the script. There are a lot of other minor factors that contributed to this situation but losing the (arguably unfair) advantage of being on a recognized official list was (correct me if I'm wrong) the last time LW's had 200 players

[Habdel]

I would say would I feel about this, but my post would probably get deleted.

enkei, the server started losing players after the official list was removed and traded for the hosted servers list instead. There have virtually been no significant updates for years and that's not because people haven't put effort, but because so many people have modified this old script that it's just a mess of bugs and adding something worth scripting without bringing more bugs is more time consuming than just re-writing the script. There are a lot of other minor factors that contributed to this situation but losing the (arguably unfair) advantage of being on a recognized official list was (correct me if I'm wrong) the last time LW's had 200 players

What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.

[Devilboy665]

Just to let you people know; Script can not bring anyone, treat can + make them stay.

Do I really have to explain everything to you!?

Alright, here's the thing.
People always loved LW's script, there's nothing wrong with it. It does has bugs, which even I can fix, but they stay for months.
Getting 323178 servers alongside LW's, on servers list was a huge loss for LW's player count. Nothing to wow there.
People always hated the LW's community, starting from the staff members. I'm not hating anyone but you all know you always were a douchebags. You're even bragging with it, so please do take it personal. People that stayed loyal to LW's, followed the douchebaggery of the those on top and community turned into crap.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.

Future of LW's will be as it is now. Even with new scripts. Even if Official tab comes back. Even if LW's will be the only server on that tab.

200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

After j0j0 became a management, knowing him, I hoped community will become more friendly and nice. After he left, I kinda lost all the hopes. Based on a way he left, prooves everything I just said stands strong and there is noone to say it doesn't.

Answer to your question, enkei. We had no choice. (by we, I mean players)

ps. I'm still waiting for that race.

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

People come and people go thats the way it has always been.

I would suggest people to move on since LW is not comming back to where it was or where people want it to be. There are the odd days when there will be 30 people in the server or more. You can't just sit back like a politician and debate for years and years only to change a few things. If you want to build up the playerbase again you need to start looking at what other servers are offering their playerbase and move with the flow. Yes people hate change (i am 1 of them) Thats why i would suggest making Littlewhiteys a Deathmatch server with subfeatures of RP and just enough to still be original. In some sort of Mafia/Mobster related theme. Doing heists, organised crimes, robberies, or what ever kind of RP theme you want as long as it has deathmatch in it (alot of RP servers dont allow or limit the deathmatch capabilities which is a shame since u got murderers etc etc in real life as well)

I think LW should go down these kinds of roads. Pull in elements of other servers but still be original.

[AJP]

What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.

You're wrong in pretty much everything you said.

I don't know the first thing about scripting, but when Slice was trying to edit this script he would tell me all the time how the script is a mess. Same thing with Simon, Peter,  or Zamaroht. Why do you think Simon and Peter wanted to almost re-write the script entirely? Obviously the bugs in the script are hard enough to script to warrant that kind of a project. Why do you think we have had some of the most talented scripters in SA:MP and we don't have the most incredible game-mode anybody could ever dream of? LW's has plenty of bugs, and if you're so in denial that you can't admit it, then I pity you.

And I don't know why you think that there were 50 players during the official listing, but you're wrong. We had a "bad streak" where we had some trouble hitting 100 players but it quickly passed since people were coming back from school.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.

Regardless of what you may believe, I used to spend time and effort trying to make this server a fun place to be. And I don't hate you, you're just an annoying person. I used to enjoy playing here and making events and all that jazz that I once thought would pump life back into the system. The plain and simple reality is that the times we once had in this virtual space are gone, and the reason (in short) that I stopped being a patient, helpful, etc. admin here is because I realized this stopped being fun and became only irritating. If you really cared to find out about that kind of stuff instead of drawing to your own conclusions you could have simply asked me in PM.

[SKY]

What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.

You're wrong in pretty much everything you said.

I don't know the first thing about scripting, but when Slice was trying to edit this script he would tell me all the time how the script is a mess. Same thing with Simon, Peter,  or Zamaroht. Why do you think Simon and Peter wanted to almost re-write the script entirely? Obviously the bugs in the script are hard enough to script to warrant that kind of a project. Why do you think we have had some of the most talented scripters in SA:MP and we don't have the most incredible game-mode anybody could ever dream of? LW's has plenty of bugs, and if you're so in denial that you can't admit it, then I pity you.

And I don't know why you think that there were 50 players during the official listing, but you're wrong. We had a "bad streak" where we had some trouble hitting 100 players but it quickly passed since people were coming back from school.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.

Regardless of what you may believe, I used to spend time and effort trying to make this server a fun place to be. And I don't hate you, you're just an annoying person. I used to enjoy playing here and making events and all that jazz that I once thought would pump life back into the system. The plain and simple reality is that the times we once had in this virtual space are gone, and the reason (in short) that I stopped being a patient, helpful, etc. admin here is because I realized this stopped being fun and became only irritating. If you really cared to find out about that kind of stuff instead of drawing to your own conclusions you could have simply asked me in PM.

wise

[Fuse]

Yeah, I can confirm it's a mess

[blewert]

[EnzoMortelli]

[Devilboy665]

STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.

[Bikerr]

STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.

200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

And this doesn't?

[Navneet]

Time never remains the same, HOWEVER good or BAD a situation is , it will change. Everything Gonna be all right. Best is yet to come Guyz .

[blewert]

STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.

[Devilboy665]

200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

And this doesn't?

That is a fact.

FU!

[Rexâ„¢]

This is kinda like, the fall of a legend. The forum is bustling with players from all around, but the server still remains deserted..........