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Michelle & Linx
« on: May 29, 2008, 10:44:23 AM »
Dear Linx,

I am sorry for you being banned. If u know for a fact that u did nothing wrong, then try to proof it. I am sure u will be allowed to play on the Joker-Server.
So you can test your theory about this being a bug there. Try to play against ppl with different pings, try to to play against ppl with high pings, low pings, see what heappens, fraps it, find out how the bug works and than post it here in a nice and friendly way.

But the evidence tells me you at least lied at your ban appeal, by saying that you didnt use the sawnoffs. So the odds are u did something wrong like cheating, bug abusing or using a nice script. in conclusion there is more that speaks against you, than there is speaking in favor of you.
so we had to ban you. I am sorry twinkle had to do it, cause she is and old RL friend of you. I know from her postings, it was really hard for her to do this.



Dear Michelle,
why u r demoted:
You say u are demoted for making a video of rezerection. That is not right.
You were indiscriminately searching of any admin abuse. You frapsed rizla spawning with amor and told him he was abusing his admin-status. Thats not a bad thing to do. What made it bad was the way u told him. And if you as mod fraps an admin thinking he abuses, u can put it in the mod chamber, so we can discuss it in private. We would have told you that admins spawn with amor and such a thing is not admin abuse.
Its not a wrong thing that you were looking if the admins behaved fairly. But putting ur videos in the public forum was the wrong thing to do. such a thing antagonise players against admins and isnt exactly what the mod & admin team needs. Especilay not if your accusements are wrong.
You were demoted even before the admin who demoted you saw the rezerection video. So the content of your video had nothing to do with you being demoted.
Now telling everybody that admins abuse their power and you were demoted because u frapsed rezerection is a lie. Its also unfair towards the admin who demoted you, because he was just doing his job.
We dont need mods who work contra productiv. We like mods who keep an eye on the other mods and admins, but the way u do it is really not acceptable. If u search hard, u will always find something fishy, like me teleporting away from a fight to watch a suspect, who just went online. You could say i was admin abusing and there would be no way for me to prove you wrong, when in reality i was just doing my job.
You frapsed Rezerection not reloading his sawnoffs once. I dont know how you deal with such things as mod, but I as admin warn people before i pull the trigger on them.
I for instance dont ban ppl if they do such a thing 3 times in 2 hours. I ban them after I warned them and they keep on doing it several times. You could  say now, that Rez was bug-abusing several times. The Fact that you just posted one instance, where he really didnt reload his sawn offs, shows you were just eager to get back on him.
That Rezerection and Rizla support twinkle in her decision is the right thing for them to do. The evidence we got was crosschecked with a samp co-developer. even he said, that it is highly likly that linx did somehting wrong.
It was hard for twinkle to ban your brother, because of you being RL friends and living in the same town.
Twinkle had to face a lot of negative coments because Linx is a regular player and hardly anyone wanted to believe that Linx did anything wrong, (that includes me). After examining the evidence it really looks for most of the admins like he did something wrong. So if they believe that linx has cheated, what would be the right thing for them to do? Support the other Admin!
If there would have been any evidence supporing your brothers theory, it would have been discussed in the admin section.
If u really think your brother did not do anything wrong, u should try to proof it, the way i told Linx. U should not search for faults at other players. And of course u shouldnt menace Rez or twinkle in RL neither should they, thats really sick. Its just a game, dont get your RL involved with it. I had a war with doctorMexico ingame, but np in RL he is my best friend. In fact in most of the games we play, we fight eachother. Thats what games are for.  If I would have banned him, he wouldnt have let it impact our RL friendship.

Please keep cool!



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« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 11:32:55 AM by SUPERBAD »

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 11:10:44 AM »
find out how the bug works and than post it here in a nice friendly way.

Aint Linx Banned from the forum?

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 11:34:21 AM »
Fusion, I dont know, if he is, his sister can do.

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 11:34:56 AM »
Thank you for this post SUPERBAD.

The reason for Michelle's demotion was exactly as stated by SUPERBAD. There simply cannot be members of the server team renegading against other server team members ... had you done as SUPERBAD said and posted the video in your moderator forums or PM'ed it to a member in Management then the correct actions would have been taken. The demotion was supposed to be a temporary demotion until I believed you were ready to work with (not against) the other server team members.

As for Linx, I do not believe you cheated but the proof of being guilty outweighs the proof of innocence (none as of yet except for speculation). I hope you are able to find proof of your innocence and gain entry back into the server because I hate to see an innocent person punished.

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 12:18:10 PM »
I think u should think what bug abusing really means... If a normal good sa-mp player like me and rez who play usually with that "switch" happen to be in an intense fight u can accidently do that "switch" bug and imo that isn't bug abusing. And anyways that sawn/tec 'bug' aka "switch" is kinda controversial bug coz lw's is the only place where it's forbidden.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 02:53:03 PM by [W]IDmad »

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 12:33:01 PM »
I think u should think what bugabusing really means... If a normal good sa-mp player like me and rez who play usually with that "switch" happen to be in an intense fight u can accidently do that "switch" bug and imo that isn't bugabusing. And anyways that sawn/tec 'bug' aka "switch" is kinda controversial bug coz lw's is the only place where it's forbidden.

I agree with the idea that it wasn't bug abusing. The video shows rezerection using it once - accidental, how do we know? We don't know because it wasn't "abused" (well at least not in my opinion).
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 01:03:31 PM by Simon »

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 01:53:07 PM »
This is why when a person is seen doing it the admin normally watches for over use, thats what I do. Its either twice in one fight or 4 times over 5 mins. Never for just one

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 04:56:48 PM »
i dont really know alot about michelles mod being took etc, so i cant really comment. about linx no reload tho, i have seen this bug and many others have to.. its only a matter of time be4 some1 fraps this bug once again.

idont know alot about any admins/mods on LW server but im sure they do ther best.

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 04:58:20 PM »
okay thats enough spoke of the " bug "
This is not a topic to discuss "bugs"!

« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 06:54:12 PM by SUPERBAD »

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 08:46:21 PM »
If u search hard, u will always find something fishy, like me teleporting away from a fight to watch a suspect, who just went online.

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 09:16:12 PM »
well im so happy to finally see a proper bloody thought out explination for all of this shite it was really starting to piss me off even though we all have our own opinions about it all im gratefull to u super bad for actually stepping back taking the time to think and writing a god damn good post with bloody meaning


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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 09:25:51 PM »
i understand my actions were dumb and i payed the price for that

« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 09:27:33 PM by Michelle »

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 09:58:41 PM »
i think the admins did what they thought was best, which is how the server should be run

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 10:05:10 PM »
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And of course u shouldnt menace Rez or twinkle in RL neither should they, thats really sick. Its just a game, dont get your RL involved with it. I had a war with doctorMexico ingame, but np in RL he is my best friend. In fact in most of the games we play, we fight eachother. Thats what games are for.  If I would have banned him, he wouldnt have let it impact our RL friendship.

I'm glad to hear that u and DocMex are mature enough to keep your ingame and "RL" relationships apart but I would like to say that it was Rez and Fannytasia who were doin' all the, as they would like to put it, "E-GANGSTA" threats about what they were gonna do to Michelle in "RL" should they visit her home town.

That part you put there was uncalled for SUPERBAD and represents a total white-washing by admins who have had to quit over making rash decisions about this particular subject.

One-sided bias is what this is and since admins have become the new "cheaters" in a lot of peoples eyes there should be a place on this forum for genuine complaints of admin abuse, a phenomina some of us encounter everyday tbh.

Just an opinion.

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Re: Michelle & Linx
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 10:30:38 PM »
Admin abuse reports was a topic!
But it came out surprisingly that ppl can not use such a thread properly!
If you see a admin abusing his powers u can write me a personal message.

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And of course u shouldnt menace Rez or twinkle in RL neither should they, thats really sick. Its just a game, dont get your RL involved with it. I had a war with doctorMexico ingame, but np in RL he is my best friend. In fact in most of the games we play, we fight eachother. Thats what games are for.  If I would have banned him, he wouldnt have let it impact our RL friendship.
but I would like to say that it was Rez and Fannytasia who were doin' all the, as they would like to put it, "E-GANGSTA" threats about what they were gonna do to Michelle in "RL" should they visit her home town.

That part you put there was uncalled for SUPERBAD and represents a total white-washing by admins who have had to quit over making rash decisions about this particular subject.


I do not know who began that shit , neither does you? maybe via pm irc or messanger anyone could have began. But doenst matter, Michelle, Linx , Twinkle, Rizla and rezerection are all cool. In a few weeks they will love each other again! Just give them time and do not roll over that shit again and again.

I close it now to avoid future flaming, and thanks everybody who posted here and read it, for not beginning to flame or puttin in here not related stuff.

I hope I could clear some missunderstandings. If anybody wanna say something to the topic write me a pm in here.

I love you all!