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Offline Claret_Mahoney

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« on: November 10, 2008, 05:05:22 AM »
Don't even know where to start. Probably the lamest time I have ever played on LW's server today.

First of all FireFox, Nx Nightmare, and Nx Craze camp outside the Bank and Ammunation in North LV the whole time I was connected. By the time I am on the yellow icon to enter the building I'm dead when I get inside. Fucking admins don't do shit cause they say it is gang territory, funny thing is I'm not in a gang and wasn't starting a gang war, and FireFox, to my knowledge wasn't even in a gang to control the said territory.

Second of all, John_Walsh, paused inside Ammunation, gaining who knows how much money from his properties. Last time I did that for 15 minutes I came back to a ban signed...I guess the fucking admin didn't realize my cash increases when I was paused were from my fucking properties, though it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that shit, so I'm left perplexed because it seems the rules on LW's only apply when they benefit certain VIP's of the game.

Another point I have, one time last week I'm sniping people from the building above the ships, and what do you know but a CAR and a DB-er (Swampy+FireFox or FoxHound, can't remember which Fox) somehow uses the "FREIGHT ELEVATOR" to get up there and kill me (while in their car). Talk about admin abuse. It's ridiculous and unfair.

So go on, bend the rules when you want them to be bent but ban someone when they are gone for 5 minutes and earn $8500 from some properties.

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Different topic now that I'm done bitching about the inadequacies of the admins and the bullshit politics of the server. I was told not to use a Game Controller, so I started to use the keyboard, my game got better. Was told to lead in order for my bullets to register, once again my game improved a bit. But what I wanna know is how some of you people "lead" when we are in closed quarters and running around each other in circles unloading innumerable clips into "each other". Seems to me that would be really fucking difficult and yet I seem to take loads of damage while my opponent takes jackshit. It doesn't make sense. Go ahead call me a nub, feel better?

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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 05:31:51 AM »
OH MY GOD. I COULD NOT HAVE WORDED IT BETTER.

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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 07:34:32 AM »
LOL again, i want to reply and put my opinions on this. first of all. there are at least 5 ammunations thoughout SA, 3 of em in LV. if it so seems that the north ammu is being camped, then go to south ammu, or east, or whatever. north ammu is gang territory, south ammu isn't. if you insist on being hardheaded and barging for north ammu, its your fault. and technically, they were not "camping", merely shooting anyone who is on their territory.

second, reguarding this "john_Walsh". paused inside ammu?, how can you tell?, i go AFK in ammu all the time (maybe a lil too much :x).... paused and AFK are different... the only way u can tell between a paused person and an AFK person is to kill them. since damage is disabled, how did u know he was paused?. and assuming he was, simply /report and it will be taken care of. you say you got banned because an admin didn't take the time to figure out where you got the money. investigation is not an admins job when you didn't follow the rules that says "NO PAUSING WITH PROPERTIES".

one thing you got me though is foxhound and his teleporting car lol. cant argue with that one, foxhound please watch the teleporting, there are choppers available. i remember a few weeks ago when i was on the ship and foxhound+ his gang started sniping me, i grabbed a rustler to shoot em, to find cars on the roof of a very tall building... ALTHOUGH, this really isn't a big deal, since foxhound could've just as easily gotten there with a chopper... its not really admin abuse, foxhound is just a lil lazy? :o

now about your gameplay. keyboard+ mouse, okay, no problems there... reguarding your shooting ahead... lol. lol again. the fact that you run in "circles" is nubish, i love people who runs in circles around me, as they're so easy to kill. the reason your opponent dosn't take "jackshit" damage is because you miss.

quote: """But what I wanna know is how some of you people "lead" when we are in closed quarters and running around each other in circles unloading innumerable clips into "each other"""" ... that's where experience comes in. dueling in SAMP is not something that can be mastered in a few minutes, or a few hours, or tens of hours.... but it seriously takes hundreds of hours for a person to truly master the art of aiming+evading. hell I've played over 300 hours and i still get pwnd from time to time.

thats all i got to say for now
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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 07:45:10 AM »
^ time for mine :)

first: we never camp there, we fight in front of there. If we "camp", either use a different ammu or, like I tell you almost every single day, USE /REPORT. If no one responds to your report you just suck at being right.

second: If fugitive was paused "outside" you could have also used the above.

third: our freight elevator, really makes no difference whether we had a car up there or not. You can't heli blade us or rustler us whether or not it was a car or a heli.

This entire thing falls under "Common Sense" like ALL of your other topics. Learn to use it like all the other idiots.
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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 10:35:52 AM »
well ma 2 cents (and 2 sheep)

North Ammo - loads of people fight outside there and if u have no weps and cash ur gonna get killed so use a diffrfent ammo - remember samp/LW's is a much about fightin as it is tactics.

I would also love to know how u know a person was paused inside ammo o.0 cus ive paused (without properties) inside ammo and 24/7 if i need to go afk or theres an issue with ma comp.

No idea about the issue with foxhound, but if u think an admin is "abusing their power" take it up with a level 3 management and get proof of it (FRAPS is everyones friend)

The close quarters thing - as Firefly said mastering samp takes ages -and if in "close quarters" use tactics and move away form the bloke so u can get a good shot in

Also as an idea go to "training servers" and ask people for fights - does help after a while cus to beat the best u gotta go up and lose against the best!

well thats my 2 cents...


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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 11:41:08 AM »
Theres always havoc when swampy and FoxHound are together
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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 11:43:39 AM »
FoxHound and Firefox are just good shooters/aimers, and i'm guessing you're taking your anger out on that since they've been playing a while. They don't camp around places - i know that from my knowledge around game.

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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 02:07:31 PM »
Another point I have, one time last week I'm sniping people from the building above the ships, and what do you know but a CAR and a DB-er (Swampy+FireFox or FoxHound, can't remember which Fox) somehow uses the "FREIGHT ELEVATOR" to get up there and kill me (while in their car). Talk about admin abuse. It's ridiculous and unfair.
ALTHOUGH, this really isn't a big deal, since foxhound could've just as easily gotten there with a chopper... its not really admin abuse, foxhound is just a lil lazy? :o
Yes it is - could a normal player have done it? No - then it is abuse.

I do warp myself up to the sniper spot, or elsewhere, but that's only if I get a report of someone cheating, and once I do get up there whoever it is normally kills me anyway once I've identified they aren't cheating :(

First of all FireFox, Nx Nightmare, and Nx Craze camp outside the Bank and Ammunation in North LV the whole time I was connected. By the time I am on the yellow icon to enter the building I'm dead when I get inside. Fucking admins don't do shit cause they say it is gang territory, funny thing is I'm not in a gang and wasn't starting a gang war, and FireFox, to my knowledge wasn't even in a gang to control the said territory.
Trust me on this once, that Ammunation has been a flashpoint for battles ever since the first public beta's of LVDM, before SA-MP was even released.  Everyone else quickly learned that that's where most of the fighting takes place (although generally it is between clans/gangs), and therefore to go to AmmuNation's elsewhere, such as the one opposite the Red Dragon - I'd say thats where most people who simply need to buy weapons go.

Second of all, John_Walsh, paused inside Ammunation, gaining who knows how much money from his properties. Last time I did that for 15 minutes I came back to a ban signed...I guess the fucking admin didn't realize my cash increases when I was paused were from my fucking properties, though it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that shit, so I'm left perplexed because it seems the rules on LW's only apply when they benefit certain VIP's of the game.

Most of the cash cheaters we get nowadays are in AmmuNation's - they walk inside the door, and then activate the cheats to get money.  Generally most of them are easy to spot as they give themselves stupendously large amounts of money, and as a result a fair few are banned by the bots.
I personally haven't been on regularly in literally years, so the few times I'm on, and if the cheating is light, I will take the time to investigate any suspicious cash before banning.  In the past, however, I would have banned most people on the spot - mainly due to the large amounts of people cheating at once.  When you're fed up with cheater after cheater in rapid succession, however, it does become quite tempting to ban without checking.
And of course, to avoid trouble, just don't pause with properties.  Or at least let it be known in chat that you're doing something like that, and why - it'll make ban appeals much easier.

I can't comment either way on there being "VIP treatment", as that would not only be unprofessional, but I simply don't know anymore due to me not being around.  There was in the extreme past, that I can admit, but that would have been such things as giving the odd bit of cash to respected Beta Tester/Developer/Very regular player who reported often/etc.  If you do think there's something dodgy going on with preferential treatment, etc, then simply get in touch with a "Level 3" admin, or someone you think you can trust, etc.



Different topic now that I'm done bitching about the inadequacies of the admins and the bullshit politics of the server. I was told not to use a Game Controller, so I started to use the keyboard, my game got better. Was told to lead in order for my bullets to register, once again my game improved a bit. But what I wanna know is how some of you people "lead" when we are in closed quarters and running around each other in circles unloading innumerable clips into "each other". Seems to me that would be really fucking difficult and yet I seem to take loads of damage while my opponent takes jackshit. It doesn't make sense. Go ahead call me a nub, feel better?

I used a game controller from the early days of MTA:VC right up to around the release of SA-MP 0.2.  The games simply aren't advanced enough to use the controllers, mainly because they were developed and tested (except for me) with keyboards and mice.  I managed to go through about 1 1/2 years of testing of SA:MP barely killing anyone, and soon as I started using a mouse - zing!


Although I can only speak for myself, and not any other person on the team (especially saying I haven't been around at all in years), I value well thought out complaints, such as your own (not the garbage that always comes in).  Again, my comments would be very from official viewpoints, but I hope I've done something to re-establish your trust in the server, and if you do have strong complaints, don't hesitate to contact Popz, etc.

Provided he's not drunk.

Actually, probably best not to contact Popz then.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 03:06:39 PM »
thank you, dannymc18, for your good answer.
Nothing else to say for me.


I am sorry you did get the feeling the rules does not cout for everyone.

1. north ammu nation is tolerated to have gang fights and co there, so it looks often like a place of camping, best to avoid that area.
   ppl hang out there and ppl fight there. Also ppl having there a tea party. Sometimes I see ppl there dancing.
   just trie to avoid it.

2. never pause ingame, you might get cash increases, which makes admins think you might cheat. So they have to ban you.

3. you really got dbed on a roof of a high building? Please pm me. That really looks for us like admin abuse.

4. the aiming is really strange sometimes, its hard to find the hitbox. Sometimes you are desync to the others (others dont see you shoot, and dont get hurt). Maybe you know the  duel arena, thats a good place to train if you find some ppl who wanna duel with you.
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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 03:27:40 PM »
Trust me on this once, that Ammunation has been a flashpoint for battles ever since the first public beta's of LVDM, before SA-MP was even released.  Everyone else quickly learned that that's where most of the fighting takes place (although generally it is between clans/gangs), and therefore to go to AmmuNation's elsewhere, such as the one opposite the Red Dragon - I'd say thats where most people who simply need to buy weapons go.
exactly.  ;)
the North Ammunation has been the place for numerous gang wars in it's past and lw's first big clan/gang fights were fought there. Everyone got their skills from the nam fights and u still can get a couple good fights from there. It's still fun to go there just for the history of it.
And bout that doorkilling , imo if u're running away from a fight when u got low hp and trying to get inside nam for new armor u deserve to be shot.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2008, 03:29:34 PM by [W]IDmad »

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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 03:28:50 PM »
well ma 2 cents (and 2 sheep)
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2008, 03:32:54 PM »
I dont see how foxhound teleporting a car on top of a build is admin abuse. It makes it easyer to kill the see that they cant fly away.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2008, 08:01:27 PM »
Go ahead call me a nub, feel better?
-Amen, TheAstonVillan
MY FRIGGIN PLEASURE...NUB

Second of all, John_Walsh, paused inside Ammunation, gaining who knows how much money from his properties. Last time I did that for 15 minutes I came back to a ban signed...I guess the fucking admin didn't realize my cash increases when I was paused were from my fucking properties, though it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that shit, so I'm left perplexed because it seems the rules on LW's only apply when they benefit certain VIP's of the game.

1st off, when u saw me in AMMO - was not paused, i dont buy properties & i was'nt buying them last nite, & to make matters worst..when you made that allegations inside ammo - another ADMIN tested to see if i was paused, was i paused? NO RETARD...

Another point I have, one time last week I'm sniping people from the building above the ships, and what do you know but a CAR and a DB-er (Swampy+FireFox or FoxHound, can't remember which Fox) somehow uses the "FREIGHT ELEVATOR" to get up there and kill me (while in their car). Talk about admin abuse. It's ridiculous and unfair.

SO what your alleging is? one of the fox's (MODS) used ''a car hack'' im assuming they teleported? just to kill you? ''just so they can kill you''?????? thats what your on here ranting about?

& last of all..you know jack shit about the server to come ''on the forums'' to make complaints/allegations...learn to server/know the server before u come & make fake allegations.

SORRY FOR OPENING THIS>but when i see my name involved & its with fake ''allegations'' here me roar..nub
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Re: Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 08:38:15 AM »
Errr, Afaik mods cant use /bring or /goto.
Only way they can teleport is with the "watch" bug and even then its impossible to teleport vehicles..

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2008, 08:51:03 AM »
Wanna be demoted to find out? :p