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Recycle Bin => Suggestions (2008-2011) => SA-MP Archive (2015) => SA-MP Archive => Recycle Bin => Rejected Suggestions => Topic started by: Slice on May 17, 2010, 12:28:29 PM
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Simple question. The "nam wars". for example, used to be a lot more fun without 4-5 helis in the air ruining it.
Helikilling is just getting too excessive lately so I'd say let's get rid of it. It also pushes players away since they get pissed off and quit the server.
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It used to be fun when there was only one or two helikillers and they were actually good at it, now it just causes FPS lagg and the explosions are plain annoying. I wont vote for now, I'll read other opinions first.
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There are only Nam fights on weekends..
The rest of time there is just HxT and their teaming friends ...
They only 5 vs 1 you so you have to helikill...
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i voted no, as this helikilling is not done by everyone. not everyone is good at helikilling. so, atleast this should not be punished
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Heli's are awesome..
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No sorry, but i like the helikill 8)
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option 1.)
players don't get a +1 stats kill by helikilling but they won't get punished for it either.
This might decrease the amount of heli's.
Option 2.)
Punish helikillers.
if it's a real problem & you really want to decrease the amount of helipilots helikilling, explosions when the heli pilots crash & the random (new) players get pissed off & quit.
This probably will decrease the amount of heli's even more than option 1.
Option 3.)
Leave it as it is.
I don't really get mind getting chopped by a heli,sometimes it even turns me on ;D
others do get mad & quit, but don't they get mad @ other stuff aswell???
Option 4.)
If the real problem is actually about the "nam wars", then why you don't create a "anti-flying zone" around that area?
So that when people fly into it with a heli or plane they must get out of that zone as quickly as possible or get killed.
Option 5)
take the nam wars somewhere else where helis can't get by ;D
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No sorry, but i like the helikill 8)
denied
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No sorry, but i like the helikill 8)
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xD Slice ;D
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I dont have problems with helikilling, and i think the big part of the players agree. It requires quite some skill to twist it right, and when youre flying in a nam fight like you say, you wouldnt survive it anyways. - They are so easy to shoot down.
In response to helikilling making new players leave; Well youre wrong about that, new players leave because they have an unfair advantage against some regulars who are teaming up on them. Thats something to discuss in another topic maybe.
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It's Useless to take IDEAS Out OF LVP server....
Why punish ppl that like to fly helis... PPL on the ground try to evade them.. Much more fun than just waiting for someone to shoot at... Shoot at Helis aswell... Think as they are your enemies on the ground..
PLEASE DON'T MAKE LITTLEWHITEY BE LIKE LVP!
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Helis are actually really annoying indeed, maybe set helis hp a bit lower, to 750 or something. You can still do everyday stuff with it, but you can be shooted down a lot faster if you come to ruin the fights in nam.
Can't have a proper nam war with helis ruining everything. This is still a running weapons DM server and helis kinda ruin the very few fights we get these days.
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I like Roach's "Option 4"... :D
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mr green: "It's Useless to take IDEAS Out OF LVP server...."
lw had no switching and no cbug rule..
+1 for slice
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Helis are actually really annoying indeed, maybe set helis hp a bit lower, to 750 or something. You can still do everyday stuff with it, but you can be shooted down a lot faster if you come to ruin the fights in nam.
Can't have a proper nam war with helis ruining everything. This is still a running weapons DM server and helis kinda ruin the very few fights we get these days.
You got the point Alvar but , when it's a 2v1/3v1/4v1 fight and anyone from your gang or anybody else coming with a heli and chop you or your opponents, even if he kill you , it's better.
I'm neutral at that.
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Another compromise would be to put a limit on the amount of helikills, by detonating the heli at some point.
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I just dont like all those suggestions.
Things like "The new players leave because of helis"
are just stupid...
This game is just a bit older and wont get much more players.
There should be still sth like "Officials" in samp with just a few servers..
Like that Lw`s would get more players and not with thousands of suggestions and not by removing everything.
And there are a lot of ways to look at this .. If Slice says Helikill is lame and should be removed because new players leave when they get helikilled then i say there are 5% of new players who get helikilled and the rest get just killed by regulars which camp at police dep.
Exactly the same with Driveby.
I Like that game so much cause you have so many things to do and so many ways to kill people and i am complete against remove stuff from the game or get punished for some things.
In the end everything will be decreased to just normal fighting on the street if it goes on like that.
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It used to be fun when there was only one or two helikillers and they were actually good at it, now it just causes FPS lagg and the explosions are plain annoying. I wont vote for now, I'll read other opinions first.
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I don't helikill anymore, but it looks like I started a new craze. D:
I agree that there are too many helis at nam now, I think we should remove some of the heli spawns.
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It used to be fun when there was only one or two helikillers and they were actually good at it, now it just causes FPS lagg and the explosions are plain annoying. I wont vote for now, I'll read other opinions first.
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I don't helikill anymore, but it looks like I started a new craze. D:
I agree that there are too many helis at nam now, I think we should remove some of the heli spawns.
Yeah, that's the idea
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Heh lol i was starting to wonder when this woud come lol...
Lets say if the agreeing of the rules woud be gone and the old rules display woud be back...
Maybe with some changes like 2 new rules like "Do not abuse helicopters for kiling people"
and like "Do not abuse drive-by for kiling people".
Its not like NOT ALOWED its more like dont do it often(abuse it).
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sure they annoying, especially at nam, but i play that game coz u have so many ways to get ur own gamefun-lvl, the question is yall want a only foot fight server? i guess no...
well we got a duel arena, im more pissed of getting asked/insulted if im online and want some good "fair" gangfights and alltime get "Duel here" "duel there" "scared" etc...
disabling helikills cmon, whats next removing all weapons and all use deagle? well we can also have fights only with flowers... well also could remove all cars -> have fun walking...
so my statement is "NO", just doesnt make sense at all...
greetz bang
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Listen and learn from Bangbus
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i didn't have removing helicopters in mind. more like punishing if you helikill more than x amount of times in x minutes or something.
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got ya... also got the point ppl left, but i see only nam as a heliproblem, there sometimes like 4 helis around, no good fights anymore n shit...
so how about a invisible airwall? like a big invisible cage around nam that only shows up if ur in a heli...
im not a scripter i just dunno whats able to do n what not...
incase could also explode the heli automatically if its near nam...
but still i think they will find any other way to disturb there...
still no from my side
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yeh something like that could be made. it's up to the people on the server.
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but if it will be changed, then watch how many firetrucks will be there then u got to have to make another poll :P
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Just do nothing and accept it.
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Well yes Helikills ruins the few fights we got at Nam and obivously is making harder to have a fair fight But I say "NO" cuz they can get fast shot down ... but it annoys me , when exploads like 20 times ...
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Yea I think there are simply to many helis, helikill itself isn't really a problem imo.
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Yes thats and idea.
There should be just 1 Heli at polive dep 1 at airport and no helis in LV in the city
Maybe some on Airports in LS or SF cause no one would take them from so far away.
And the problem would be fixed.
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Yes Not so many helis will be Nice nice idea And desable others helis ... Just one maverick and an police maverick
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i have an idea like a previus one
lets just make a huge cage around the turfs that soround nam not all of them but most of them
and make a small entrance from the streets to get into like doors or somethin this might also prevent people from running to 24/7
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i have an idea like a previus one
lets just make a huge cage around the turfs that soround nam not all of them but most of them
and make a small entrance from the streets to get into like doors or somethin this might also prevent people from running to 24/7
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i have an idea like a previus one
lets just make a huge cage around the turfs that soround nam not all of them but most of them
and make a small entrance from the streets to get into like doors or somethin this might also prevent people from running to 24/7
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invincible wall you know what it means stop acting so small minded -_-
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Yes Not so many helis will be Nice nice idea And desable others helis ... Just one maverick and an police maverick
No. And maverick and police maverick are two not one btw ::)
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Sorry -1,me2 i like helikills
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ffs i enjoy trying not to by like 10 helis plus 90% of the time they help me or i rape the person trying to heli kill me.
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It used to be fun when there was only one or two helikillers and they were actually good at it, now it just causes FPS lagg and the explosions are plain annoying. I wont vote for now, I'll read other opinions first.
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I don't helikill anymore, but it looks like I started a new craze. D:
I agree that there are too many helis at nam now, I think we should remove some of the heli spawns.
Yeah, that's the idea
by which I mean, +1 :p
Also there is no mention of removing heli spawns in the first post.
i have an idea like a previus one
lets just make a huge cage around the turfs that soround nam not all of them but most of them
and make a small entrance from the streets to get into like doors or somethin this might also prevent people from running to 24/7
Too much objects, and it'd look stupid. It'd also create lag for players too.
You could make a virtual "cage" by detecting whether or not they're in a certain radius of nam, but that's not the point. The point is to limit excessive helikilling, not outright ban it.
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yea i said just block nam from heli attacks
i like to helikill
though i suck at it
once in a while
but yea this sunday i came back to lw for the first time in a week and said "hey i wanna go to nam with some buddies and do a war" then out of nowere disco comes out and chops us all wich is preety lame
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-1000 never i love helikilling :(
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-1, I like helikills
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-1, I like helikills
love you lil' gil
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Simply answer. NO.
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Sry Slice just Hlikill is nice ... Now what remov Helikill and DB = lost all ppl this server -1
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Sry Slice just Hlikill is nice ... Now what remov Helikill and DB = lost all ppl this server -1
You means that this server only have DB and helikill, xD
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This is imposible slice! not DB ! not helikill ! not[what is next?]!................... -1
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This is imposible slice! not DB ! not helikill ! not[what is next?]!................... -1
XD Leytoneeee, what are without DB and helikill right?, the end of the world for you ahah
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lol yesterday i was fighting with some HIGHLY annoying db faggot but i was SUPER amused :D
i flamed and raged all the time but it still was funny.... ;D
but with helikill its something totally different.... everytime i get helikill i just think "cool, get lost". it doesnt turn me on at all. i just think its pathetic. i always did. of course i vote +1 for this. i love db and i love db wars. its AWESOME if a skilled player tries to kill some good dber. its super amusing - but helikill is imo just annoying and retarded ... of course for the newbs who join the server and get db killed its retarded too... but i guess the guys who /q directly after a db kill will /q because of some other thing anyway.
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there is another big difference between db and helikill..
you can easily chase down some driver-byer but with helikill its different. you cant just chase down a heli because its faster than you. the helikiller can avoid you easily, he just flys behind some building and you cant do anything. rustlers wont work either.. its nearly impossible because they need a shitload of OPEN space to turn around.
for example my favorite fag s3rs the wannabe helikiller: always when his heli got low health he just went back to admin roof and picked up a new one. there wasnt anything you could do about it.
dbers are no problem. you can easily kill them because you actually can hunt them without problems. of course you need the skills for killing them too...
imo helikill should be punished too. or removed completly.
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The invisible walls idea brought up is not a good one, what if I actually want to fly in and pick up some people at NAM? I can only think of really ugly inefficient, dodgy hacks to disable helikilling.
As for the poll, it depends on the punishment. I would vote no if the punishment was something stupid like -1 kill stats, instant kill of killer or punishment menus. However, I would vote yes if it was a realistic/believable way to punish the heli kill.
The punishment could be to make the helicopter start burning up after a kill, because is a person really gonna just flick into helicopter blades with no damage done to the helicopter? Maybe add some realistic "bounce" effect (using velocities), so the helicopter bounces away and doesn't explode in the middle of the fighting. This is the sort of punishment I'd like to see if punishment is voted in. It may not be uber effective but it's a way of discouraging it (since the helicopter flyer may die if they suck), it would however stop helikill rampages in a single helicopter.
@ Slice: Can you make it so we can change our votes? I have voted no, but would like to remove my vote.
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ya u can change the vote now
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Well msot people voted no so u have to change nothing.
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OFF-TOPIC: Leytone, you will get that ENORMOUS signature removed again...
ON-TOPIC: If we are gonna remove or punish all the annoying things, we better close the server.
Besides, I already said that there are few things to do with vehicles, so punishing helikilling would make things even worse, not only because heli pilots would get bored, but also because Rustler pilots would lose the fun of shooting helis.
i didn't have removing helicopters in mind. more like punishing if you helikill more than x amount of times in x minutes or something.
I suggested something similar for dbers but they didn't like it.
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Simple question. The "nam wars". for example, used to be a lot more fun without 4-5 helis in the air ruining it.
Helikilling is just getting too excessive lately so I'd say let's get rid of it. It also pushes players away since they get pissed off and quit the server.
totally agree, +1
i hate helikills, i consider them lame as db even if most of people don't think so
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And why can't be there other ways of killing? why do we have to be limited to only one and unique style of fighting? are we gonna punish any kill that is not done the way that some want? don't people have the right to play how they prefer? do we really have to give preference to only one kind of players and discriminate all the others? shouldn't be there a big variety of types of players, each one with his own skills?
Besides, helikilling needs no punishment, it's already hard enough (harder than db).
But meanwhile, if you are annoyed by helikillers, call me!!! ;D Rustler services, low prices!!
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Again, I really think the only thing worth removing is a few mavericks (leviathans and big helis are no problem) and make them just a bit less accessible. Helikill and rustlers aren't the problem, excess of them is.
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i voted NO , because i need easy victims as these helicopters :D