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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: Gryphus_One on November 11, 2010, 04:10:44 PM
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First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14336.0.html) most people have voted no, there are other polls like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14254.0.html), like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,13953.0.html) or like this one (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14190.0.html) that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.
But apart from that, if really nobody here cares about Rustlers is just because, as the server offers almost nothing for them, players who are interested in Rustlers don't join the server, or just join it but leave it after a short time. That's why I find this funny:
Only the R gang uses rustlers on a large scale and they are hardly every online except for qwerbeet hes on regularly, other than that no one uses it except gryphus together with qwerbeet.
He says "the R-gang is hardly online"... well, of course!! how do you expect them to be online if there's almost nothing for them? imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".
Also, if players currently aren't taking an interest in Rustlers, is because they don't give anything like money or stats. However, imagine for just a moment the old LW, in which banks weren't full and everyone was fighting hard for every single dollar. Imagine that in that moment, someone had made a Rustler event with 1 million prize for the winner: a lot of people would have joined it!!!
Many people play only those things that give something in return: if transport missions and car exports didn't give any money, do you think that anybody would bother doing them? or if helikilling didn't count to the stats, do you think there would be so many helikillers? no, everyone would be just saying "nobody cares about transports, exports and helicopters". THIS is what is currently happening with Rustlers.
The only situation in which we could truly say that nobody cares about Rustlers, would be if, with having things scripted for them, nobody were using them, but obviously this is not the situation.
Besides, Qwerbeet and I have seen some newbies that, sick of being killed all the time, instead of raging /q like others, just started to fly instead, seeking freedom and safety. However, as the server doesn't have anything for them, they were soon getting bored and finally leaving the server. I remember a recent case, in which a new player was making questions about planes, and I told him about a plane server that I know. He just left LW and I saw him playing in that other server for a long time, so LW just lost another new player, who probably would have stayed here if he had had something for him. Then, some people complain that I tell newbies to go to other servers, but what else do you expect? I guide newbies to those servers in which they can stand a chance and have something!!
It's true that Rustler pilots aren't a majority in all Samp, but they are enough to make a difference: that plane server that I have talked about, usually has more players than LW, and before that I was playing in a server called "Steal the plane" that had about 20 players, but it had to close due to cheaters and technical issues.
Take into account that planes are one of the most unique features of San Andreas and Samp: shooting on foot, racing and other things can be done also in VC-MP or GTA4, or even in other games that aren't GTA, however flying can be done only in San Andreas/Samp (well, it's true that VC has planes, but the flying in that game is shitty). Ohh, and before someone says something like "if you want to fly planes go playing Tom Clancy's Hawx", what I want is a game/server in which you can do everything: fly, drive, shoot, swim etc. and Samp is almost the only one that can offer all of that.
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tl;dr
something about benny again ::)
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tl;dr²
How about stop to change "myths" ? No one will read it and you waste your time.
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First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14336.0.html) most people have voted no, there are other polls like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14254.0.html), like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,13953.0.html) or like this one (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14190.0.html) that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.
1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.
He says "the R-gang is hardly online"... well, of course!! how do you expect them to be online if there's almost nothing for them? imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".
3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.
Also, if players currently aren't taking an interest in Rustlers, is because they don't give anything like money or stats. However, imagine for just a moment the old LW, in which banks weren't full and everyone was fighting hard for every single dollar. Imagine that in that moment, someone had made a Rustler event with 1 million prize for the winner: a lot of people would have joined it!!!
4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..
thats why nobody uses them.
Many people play only those things that give something in return: if transport missions and car exports didn't give any money, do you think that anybody would bother doing them? or if helikilling didn't count to the stats, do you think there would be so many helikillers? no, everyone would be just saying "nobody cares about transports, exports and helicopters". THIS is what is currently happening with Rustlers.
The only situation in which we could truly say that nobody cares about Rustlers, would be if, with having things scripted for them, nobody were using them, but obviously this is not the situation.
5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...
Besides, Qwerbeet and I have seen some newbies that, sick of being killed all the time, instead of raging /q like others, just started to fly instead, seeking freedom and safety. However, as the server doesn't have anything for them, they were soon getting bored and finally leaving the server. I remember a recent case, in which a new player was making questions about planes, and I told him about a plane server that I know. He just left LW and I saw him playing in that other server for a long time, so LW just lost another new player, who probably would have stayed here if he had had something for him. Then, some people complain that I tell newbies to go to other servers, but what else do you expect? I guide newbies to those servers in which they can stand a chance and have something!!
6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.
It's true that Rustler pilots aren't a majority in all Samp, but they are enough to make a difference: that plane server that I have talked about, usually has more players than LW, and before that I was playing in a server called "Steal the plane" that had about 20 players, but it had to close due to cheaters and technical issues.
Take into account that planes are one of the most unique features of San Andreas and Samp: shooting on foot, racing and other things can be done also in VC-MP or GTA4, or even in other games that aren't GTA, however flying can be done only in San Andreas/Samp (well, it's true that VC has planes, but the flying in that game is shitty). Ohh, and before someone says something like "if you want to fly planes go playing Tom Clancy's Hawx", what I want is a game/server in which you can do everything: fly, drive, shoot, swim etc. and Samp is almost the only one that can offer all of that.
7. if LW had 100 new rustler fuckfaces and db whores like you i (and many others) would quit instantly.
8. i claim that for 1 rustler fucker on the server, 3 other people quit.
9. lw will never be a server where you can get anything but a disrespected, unwated tard using your fucking rustlers. so just stop crying.
10. your post fails and so you do.
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i'll never read all this treaty, but i just lol at this:
First of all, we cannot say that this is totally true: although in this suggestion (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14336.0.html) most people have voted no, there are other polls like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14254.0.html), like this (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,13953.0.html) or like this one (http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,14190.0.html) that show the opposite.
We cannot forget that the R-gang has like 4 or 5 regular members, apart from me (that am not in that gang), and 5 players out of 20 is not a majority, but is a 25% of the server's population, which is a percentage to take into account: there's a difference between having 20 players or only 15.
rotfl.
it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us
Without opening again loads of topics or reading tons of long posts like this, there's only one thing to say: devilboy made a poll, and it's going mainly for the "NO" answer, so what? stop. If "NO" wins, that means it will NOT be done, ez.
bye
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1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.
1-Believe me that if the average player count on the server is about 20, the R-gang members and me (cos I'm not in that gang) are about 5.
2-Lol? :o
3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.
Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!
Besides, are you saying that Samp community is stupid or what?? ???
4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..
thats why nobody uses them.
Ohh, too hard to control... but aren't you one of those who like hard things and not easy ones?? ::)
Pathetic damage? then how do you explain that a Rustler can destroy another?
5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.
A server that bans someone who is honest and wants the best for others, only deserves the most painful of the deaths...
7. if LW had 100 new rustler fuckfaces and db whores like you i (and many others) would quit instantly.
8. i claim that for 1 rustler fucker on the server, 3 other people quit.
Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
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3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.
Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!
it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us
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Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)
Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)
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Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)
Are you joking? compare the difficulty of helikilling with the one of killing with Rustlers.
Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)
Prove it then. ;)
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3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.
Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!
it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us
Quickplay you edited your message while I was typing my reply (or after it) and I didn't see that part. Yeah, I can go to other servers and that's what I sometimes do, but if you say "go to another server" to every single player who is not a dmer instead of making things to make him stay, then I don't know why there are so many cryies about the server being empty and stuff... ::)
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Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
Rustler pilots get stats for their rustlerkilling too, what's the problem? ::)
Are you joking? compare the difficulty of helikilling with the one of killing with Rustlers.
Lol why? why would someone leave just because of the presence of Rustler pilots?? what a piece of bullshit!! ;D
You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)
Prove it then. ;)
did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.
you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.
gryphus your topic fails completly. i countered every single argument that was in your post. i destroyed youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
so what about getting lost now?
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You're the piece of bullshit here... ::)
Prove it then. ;)
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg831.image%24hack.us%2Fimg831%2F9474%2Fbullshitpile.jpg&hash=d58be912af314a8f39c3aac562382878b4e3c466)
Point proven? ::)
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3. its not only the server, its the entire samp community who doesnt give a damn about rustler fights.
Yeah, that's why as I said (and you seemed to have read all my text) there are or have been servers based on planes with good number of players right? Ohh, I forgot to mention Partyserver with its 70 players, many of them flying around!!!
it seems like u can't afford a server to play in as you prefer. I don't get why u don't go in another server when u want to use rustlers as u say: search for a server which has the features you're looking for, and stop bothering us
Quickplay you edited your message while I was typing my reply (or after it) and I didn't see that part. Yeah, I can go to other servers and that's what I sometimes do, but if you say "go to another server" to every single player who is not a dmer instead of making things to make him stay, then I don't know why there are so many cryies about the server being empty and stuff... ::)
i don't have to say that to every player who comes in here, cause IF he comes here is because HE WANTS to be in a dm server, otherwise he would have gone in a race server or in a rustlers fights server.
a "single player who is not a dmer", wouldn't join LW, that's the point lol
LW is mainly a dm server (how many times will we have to say this? :-[) since several years, and once it had 200/200 players, so it's not a problem of putting ruslters fights or something lmao
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did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.
you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.
Yeah I have tryied hk a few times and although it's hard, I have probably hked more people in those few attempts than in all my Rustler flying hours. Take into account that a Rustler cannot stop in the air, so trying to kill someone with its guns is like trying to kill with db while driving at max speed. Not to mention the problems of flying through narrow streets... ::)
And indeed because it's hard to make stats with Rustlers, is why they should give something else, like air races or money for flying through some difficult checkpoints.
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did you ever try helikilling? i know you would fail anyway.
you dont get stats on littlwhiteys for destroying players vehicles. such stats would just prove you as the biggest possible retard. also im pretty sure its impossible to find out who the person was that destroyed a specific vehicle.
Yeah I have tryied hk a few times and although it's hard, I have probably hked more people in those few attempts than in all my Rustler flying hours. Take into account that a Rustler cannot stop in the air, so trying to kill someone with its guns is like trying to kill with db while driving at max speed. Not to mention the problems of flying through narrow streets... ::)
And indeed because it's hard to make stats with Rustlers, is why they should give something else, like air races or money for flying through some difficult checkpoints.
nobody gives a fuck about those 3 rustler idiots. one of you causes multiple people to leave LW. im sure of it.
here i destroyed the last ones of your retarded argmuents:
1. your gang is not online 24/7 so your calculations are invalid. you and your gang may be 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW.
2. i think without you and your gang we would most likely have more players nowadays. you and your friends contributed a big part to the ruined reputation of the race system.
1-Believe me that if the average player count on the server is about 20, the R-gang members and me (cos I'm not in that gang) are about 5.
2-Lol? :o
1. you and your friends are not playing 24/7.
you and your friends might be a 1/100 of the current human beings playing on LW. in average of course.
2. you find it funny that you and your friends contribute a big part to the ruin of LW?
4. invalid. like your bird hair.
rustlers are a way too hard to control and compared to ground weapons the damage is quite pathetic, only aiming is a lot easier but the problem is that this shit is flying..
thats why nobody uses them.
Ohh, too hard to control... but aren't you one of those who like hard things and not easy ones?? ::)
Pathetic damage? then how do you explain that a Rustler can destroy another?
because its auto-aiming. like hell.
5. you can earn money (bounty) and stats with rustlers too. its only "a little" harder but they are pretty good to stop the most-wanted player. helikillers dont get anything special in return either. the transport missions are something added to the server on purpose. your race ruining isnt wanted here. there wont be any stats just for the 5 rustler tards who play every now and then. as i said, nobody gives a damn about you or your rustler...
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
there are no helikilling stats. there are no rustler killing stats.
there only are the killing stats. rustlers and helis count aswell so stop talking bullshit.
6. you guided new people to other servers? you should actually get banned for that.
A server that bans someone who is honest and wants the best for others, only deserves the most painful of the deaths...
you are not allowed to give any server IP's without asking an admin who allows it. training server IPs are OK but telling a newbie to go to that and that server and to forget about LW is completly disallowed. the rules say it.
if you dont accept and follow the rules then dont join the server.
so what about getting lost now?
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"A server that bans someone who is honest and wants the best for others, only deserves the most painful of the deaths..."
then why the fuck u don't leave this server!?!?!? this is what i don't understand, damn. >:(
u don't like how is it the gm? leave! now and forever. Otherwise accept as it is and stop bothering us with all these topics
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lets destroy the topic subject too:
nobody gives a fuck about rustler idiots like you.
- each player of your sort causes multiple people to leave LW
- you are telling new players to leave the server and join other ones (you admitted it),
- you ruin races in the most pathetic way,
- you try to provoke other players with your "funny" 'hahahahahha sorry for your stats' shit
- you and your fuckfriends already got a fucking entire base!
and you STILL dare to ask for your very own LW features? you got something that nobody else got and you accomplished your mission to ruin the races on lw! are you still not satisfied?
sory for strong language.
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Gryphus i already exposed the myth about youre brain so there are no more interesting myths left ..
But i make it this time even understandable for you :
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i don't have to say that to every player who comes in here, cause IF he comes here is because HE WANTS to be in a dm server, otherwise he would have gone in a race server or in a rustlers fights server.
a "single player who is not a dmer", wouldn't join LW, that's the point lol
LW is mainly a dm server (how many times will we have to say this? :-[) since several years, and once it had 200/200 players, so it's not a problem of putting ruslters fights or something lmao
Yeah but, what if someone likes dm but also other things? there are people who don't like only one thing. Why do all those people have to be switching from one server to another for each different thing, instead of being able to do all their stuff in just one single server?
Yeah, LW is a dm server, but if it's empty, it's obvious that having only dmers is not enough, so it needs to attract also other kinds of players: roleplayers? rp and dm aren't compatible, unless you make a parallel world (which would be a good idea though). Hydra and Hunter pilots? once again you need a parallel world. Stunters? better in a parallel world too, because all those ramps and objects create popping which is annoying for the rest of the players. So what do we have left? Rustler pilots? Eureka!!! we can attract Rustler pilots and have them playing in the main world!!!
nobody gives a fuck about those 3 rustler idiots. one of you causes multiple people to leave LW. im sure of it.
Lol!!! but how the fuck can a Rustler pilot make others leave??
because its auto-aiming. like hell.
So? if a Rustler can destroy another the same way a player on foot can kill another, what's wrong then?
Helikillers get stats for their helikilling.
there are no helikilling stats. there are no rustler killing stats.
there only are the killing stats. rustlers and helis count aswell so stop talking bullshit.
Yeah but once again compare the difficulty of killing with each vehicle, and then you will realize that, since Rustlers are almost unable to kill, they need their own activities that give money OR stats.
you are not allowed to give any server IP's without asking an admin who allows it. training server IPs are OK but telling a newbie to go to that and that server and to forget about LW is completly disallowed. the rules say it.
if you dont accept and follow the rules then dont join the server.
As long as it's in pm and not in the main chat, it's allowed.
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you are not allowed to give any server IP's without asking an admin who allows it. training server IPs are OK but telling a newbie to go to that and that server and to forget about LW is completly disallowed. the rules say it.
if you dont accept and follow the rules then dont join the server.
As long as it's in pm and not in the main chat, it's allowed.
it is not.
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Ok this time I reply in red inside the quote to avoid making a lot of quote blocks:
nobody gives a fuck about rustler idiots like you.
Nobody in this server gives a fuck about ANYTHING that is not themselves, and that's one of the reasons why the server is between life and death.
- each player of your sort causes multiple people to leave LW
Lol? :o
Yeah sure, of course the ones who kill newbies don't make any harm at all, no... ::)
- you are telling new players to leave the server and join other ones (you admitted it),
I want the best for the newbies, obviously not the best for a server that treats newbies and intellectualy superior people like me as if we were shit.
- you ruin races in the most pathetic way,
Do I have any other choice?? implement something for Rustlers and we the pilots won't need to chase racers, that simple.
Ohh, and regulars ruin the newbies' gaming experience in the most pathetic way.
- you try to provoke other players with your "funny" 'hahahahahha sorry for your stats' shit
They get what they give.
- you and your fuckfriends already got a fucking entire base!
And why instead of that useless base, didn't the server give something more useful for them?
Don't use that base as an argument against me because they wouldn't have it if it were up to me.
and you STILL dare to ask for your very own LW features?
Features that apart from me would satisfy other players (many newbies among them) and that are part of the game so they should be squeezed.
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gryphus your replys are too easy to refute today. its bores me like shit so this might be the last reply unless you use your brain properly from now on.
Ok this time I reply in red inside the quote to avoid making a lot of quote blocks:
nobody gives a fuck about rustler idiots like you.
Nobody in this server gives a fuck about ANYTHING that is not themselves, and that's one of the reasons why the server is between life and death.
i am talking about the guys who are hosting this server. you are just an ungratefull bastard so im sure they will not respect you and your wishes.
- each player of your sort causes multiple people to leave LW
Lol? :o
Yeah sure, of course the ones who kill newbies don't make any harm at all, no... ::)
this topic is about you and your cool friends. i respect the sort of players you mentioned even less than you. you can be sure of that.
- you are telling new players to leave the server and join other ones (you admitted it),
I want the best for the newbies, obviously not the best for a server that treats newbies and intellectualy superior people like me as if we were shit.
then dont join the server because there are not many noobs which you can help anyway. pm your cool friends the server IP of your cool awesome server that you happen to know and fuck off.
- you ruin races in the most pathetic way,
Do I have any other choice?? implement something for Rustlers and we the pilots won't need to chase racers, that simple.
Ohh, and regulars ruin the newbies' gaming experience in the most pathetic way.
this is just too stupid for being worth a reply.
- you try to provoke other players with your "funny" 'hahahahahha sorry for your stats' shit
They get what they give.
invalid. you say it to anybody.
- you and your fuckfriends already got a fucking entire base!
And why instead of that useless base, didn't the server give something more useful for them?
Don't use that base as an argument against me because they wouldn't have it if it were up to me.
ungratefull bastard. quit already.
and you STILL dare to ask for your very own LW features?
Features that apart from me would satisfy other players (many newbies among them) and that are part of the game so they should be squeezed.
your talking about:
rustler duels? you can easily do that without a scripted event. and for the 3 rustler fuckfaces on the server you do not need rustler duel stats.
rustler races? invalid. plane races are not worth to be implemented. the planes ram each other at the start and the race will cause nothing but rage.
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What Gryphus is talking about is true and i guess many other players agree with him. I have never seen most of these guys that started involving themselve into this topic to let it become a flame topic, better "all against Gryphus", flying a rustler in the air. Quickplay would be the only pilot i have shot down already.
However day for day I see alot of new players using Rustlers, Shamals and Helicopters. These players actually don't look for fights, they prefer avoid death match and just joined the server to have a look at it. I don't want to ask you for adding plane-races and stuff like that to the server, it has been suggested before and the staff was like "too busy" or "unnecessary". My only problems are the general spawns. When I joined littlewhitey's, it was like: You spawned somewhere in north, west or south of Las Venturas and you weren't directly involved into north ammu, police department or strip fights. You had a chance to do what you can do best.
Now it's like:
- Noob joins
- Noob chooses Groove-Street character
- Noob spawns on roof of north ammunation
- Noob is confused about a helicopter circling over him
- Noob jumps off the roof
- Noob gets killed instantly
- Noob respawns again near police department
- Noob gets killed ......... ......
- Noob leaves
@ BikeDriver, Quickplay, Robby and Disco
Please stop arguing until you create a better topic or continue your 4vs1 argues ingame...
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Littlewitheys is a running weapons server and no party or fun server for rustlers ...
Yes maybe there are races and other stuff but its based on running weps and shouldnt turn into a party server!
Gryphus for every suggestion you create thats my awnser.
I finished with u guys
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@ BikeDriver, Quickplay, Robby and Disco
Please stop arguing until you create a better topic or continue your 4vs1 argues ingame...
invalid. i can post as much as i want, as long as i dont get offtopic and dont flame like mad its ok. it doesnt matter whether i created better topics or not.
you got no right to tell anybody to stop arguing.
what gryphus was talking here got absolutely BUSTED, how can you still claim that it was true?
you are one of the worst rustler-obsessed retards the server got. you ruin every single race when you are online. you do not give a fuck if the guy whose race experience you destroyed was a noob or not. but you ingore it. you just happen to miss out the part that many noobs quit because of you and your cool friends. you guys make noobs rage quit too but instead you claim that you help them with your rustlers. its completly pathetic what you guys are doing here.
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- Noob joins
- Noob chooses Groove-Street character
- Noob spawns on roof of north ammunation
- Noob is confused about a helicopter circling over him
- Noob jumps off the roof
- Noob gets killed instantly
- Noob respawns again near police department
- Noob gets killed ......... ......
- Noob leaves
Cool story bro. Two years ago it was like:
- Noob joins
- Noob chooses Groove-Street character
- Noob spawns on roof of north ammunation
- Noob is confused about a helicopter circling over him
- Noob jumps off the roof
- Noob gets killed instantly
- Noob respawns again near police department
- Noob gets killed ......... ......
- Noob learns how to fight
- Noob still gets killed but has fun due to his knowledge of fighting
- Noob got his first Spree
- Noob has fun and stays
- Noob still plays this server and might be active on forum even
gf.
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- Noob joins
- Noob chooses Groove-Street character
- Noob spawns on roof of north ammunation
- Noob is confused about a helicopter circling over him
- Noob jumps off the roof
- Noob gets killed instantly
- Noob respawns again near police department
- Noob gets killed ......... ......
- Noob leaves
Cool story bro. Two years ago it was like:
- Noob joins
- Noob chooses Groove-Street character
- Noob spawns on roof of north ammunation
- Noob is confused about a helicopter circling over him
- Noob jumps off the roof
- Noob gets killed instantly
- Noob respawns again near police department
- Noob gets killed ......... ......
- Noob learns how to fight
- Noob still gets killed but has fun due to his knowledge of fighting
- Noob got his first Spree
- Noob has fun and stays
- Noob still plays this server and might be active on forum even
gf.
2 years ago you didn't spawn into main fighting areas all the time, that's what I'm talking about. As Hazard and Dugi told me, the current spawn-areas are a testing. In my opinion it can't stay like it is atm.
gf.
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2 years ago you didn't spawn into main fighting areas all the time, that's what I'm talking about. As Hazard and Dugi told me, the current spawn-areas are a testing. In my opinion it can't stay like it is atm.
gf.
2 years ago there was a big race like one time a hour.
2 years ago there were no rustler fuckfaces. at least not in every single race.
the current spawns are kickass. guys who are afraid of dieing either try to learn it or they are wrong on this server.
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Without opening again loads of topics or reading tons of long posts like this, there's only one thing to say: devilboy made a poll, and it's going mainly for the "NO" answer, so what? stop. If "NO" wins, that means it will NOT be done, ez.
To this, I have to say several things:
1-I had already been thinking of creating this topic before that poll, because this false myth has been being repeated lots of times lately.
2-As I said in that poll, I see that the support that a suggestion gets depends more on who makes it than on the suggestion itself: if that very same suggestion and poll had been made by Miczi, Jets, Benny or Scott and not by Devilboy, everyone would have MASSIVELY supported it.
3-Another thing that has had its influence is the topic itself: as I'm a Rustler pilot, everyone will vote "no" to Rustlers. If instead of flying Rustlers I used to fly helicopters, then everyone would be against helis and nobody would cry about Rustlers.
4-Ok, people don't want Rustler duels... but don't want Rustlers in races either!!! so then what??
5-There's few people voting "yes" for Rustlers because as I said, Samp players that are interested in Rustlers usually don't join this server. Imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".
Its not a myth, never was there any questions about rustlers before R gang came and you gryphus, The only R's ive seen are Phil mitchel Qwerbeet and some other mitchel guy onestepcloser and quatro. And those mitchel guys and quatro are only online like once a week maybe twice. The only 2 that are on regularly flying rustlers are you and qwerbeet. And you guys are hated for destroying alot of fun by using Rustler to attack everyone thats in Desert just minding their own bussiness. Its even pathetic that admins decided to make you guys your own rustler base somewhere on a farm in SF. While i made u guys a rustler spot on the aircraft carrier in SF. (and on second thought i should have never given u guys so many access to rustlers if i had known u guys would ruin so much stuff.)
Also stop making useless threads no one cares about.
You say that there are few R members active, so I say 2 things:
1-The same I have said several times: if the server doesn't offer almost anything for Rustlers, how do you expect pilots to be actively playing in the server? Imagine that now we suddenly remove all weapons and duel arena, so all dmers leave the server, and then I come saying "why implement weapons and da? nobody cares about them".
2-If as you say, only Qwerbeet and I are playing regularly, then... what's the problem with Rustlers?? only 2 pilots alone aren't a threat!!
And about "Rustlers attacking people in the desert that are minding their own business", this is a dm man. If you don't want to be attacked, go to a rp server.
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2 - You guys take it to another level. You basicly annoy people even if they tell you to stop u continue pissing them off even more.. And what do those people do ? Exactly they do /q and leave the server because of 2 noobs who just dont leave them alone when they ask them to leave them alone.
Ohh what an hypocrite, and regulars don't do the same to newbies right? and that includes what they were doing to me from the very first moment I joined this server, even before I started flying Rustlers, dbing and posting in the forum. What happens is that regulars think they have the right to violate everyone that is in their way, but however they cannot be touched by anyone. I.e, a whole bunch of selfish, egocentric and fascist bastards, and is that attitude of a big part of the LW community one of the key factors that are killing the server.
You say that most people here want me out of the server, and you know why? because I'm one of the few that is trying to bring JUSTICE to this server.
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Gryphus you are so funny: first you ask to add features to this server to improve it, but at the same time you send pms to people, advertising them other servers to play in..isn't it a little incoherent? lol and btw i don't like that
about Rustlers: if u remember, i voted "no" in the topic where is suggested to remove rustlers, leaving just 4 of them, cause i think it's not a problem if there are many of them in the gm, cause it's funny sometimes driving 'em.
This time i disagree cause i just don't see the need to put rustlers duels...and i already explained the reasons
It's boring that if you guys make a suggestion which isn't accepted by most of players, you must insist till you see others agreeing with you ???
You said why you think it would be a good idea, but if the majority doesn't agree cut it off ::)
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Gryphus you are so funny: first you ask to add features to this server to improve it, but at the same time you send pms to people, advertising them other servers to play in..isn't it a little incoherent? lol and btw i don't like that
No, it makes perfect sense: I want this to be a complete server, but while it isn't, what do you expect me to do? recommend other servers that correct the problems that LW has. However, if one day LW gets to be a complete server, be sure that I will only recommend this and not any other one.
It's boring that if you guys make a suggestion which isn't accepted by most of players, you must insist till you see others agreeing with you ???
You said why you think it would be a good idea, but if the majority doesn't agree cut it off ::)
I told you: I had already been thinking of making this very same topic before that suggestion.
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Gryphus you are so funny: first you ask to add features to this server to improve it, but at the same time you send pms to people, advertising them other servers to play in..isn't it a little incoherent? lol and btw i don't like that
No, it makes perfect sense: I want this to be a complete server, but while it isn't, what do you expect me to do? recommend other servers that correct the problems that LW has. However, if one day LW gets to be a complete server, be sure that I will only recommend this and not any other one.
It's boring that if you guys make a suggestion which isn't accepted by most of players, you must insist till you see others agreeing with you ???
You said why you think it would be a good idea, but if the majority doesn't agree cut it off ::)
I told you: I had already been thinking of making this very same topic before that suggestion.
1- I expect you to don't fucking advertise other servers, otherwise u contribute to get the server empty, and it should also be punished imho. If u want this server to get better, start avoiding to make advertising lmao, it looks stupid
2- U already thought to make this suggestion...what does this have to do with what i said? lol i'm saying to don't insist. U said why u want this suggestion to be accepted, we said why we don't, end of the story..don't repeat or insist omg :o
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gryphus do it like devilboy and leave :-*
PS: How can u quote so much and write so much isnt that annoying ? ???
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indeed, when i started to play samp it was just on LW, and just entered i was the target of the whole eVo gang (who plays since a lot knows what i'm talking about). I was a newbie and i was alone against an entire gang. But that was just what made me like this server, cause it was an hard test to win..and with time passing by i became friends with some players and enemy of others..and now here i am. This is Lw for me, so stop saying "he's a new player, leave him alone!" ...
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1- I expect you to don't fucking advertise other servers, otherwise u contribute to get the server empty, and it should also be punished imho. If u want this server to get better, start avoiding to make advertising lmao, it looks stupid
I want the best for newbies, so what do you expect? also, if I can tell a friend about a server with private messages, why cannot I do the same with a newbie? specially if he is interested in planes like some of them were. Or do you expect this absurd situation?
-Newbie: I like planes.
-Gryphus: Ok you like planes but stay here in LW despite of it not offering anything for planes so all regulars can kill you and don't go to any other server, even plane servers. No, just stay here.
Btw Those newbies have to learn how to fight someway or another and by telling regulars to NOT KILL THEM they will never learn how to fight. And if they dont ask anything of the players that could help them get better or how things work well then thats their problem nothing we can do about. Even if they are from different language there are always peeps on from same language or what ever. So please stop using the bullshit argument that newbies have to be held up high as saints like they cant be touched cuz they are new.. Its a fuckin DM server and they know it the moment they join the server.
Apply this same argument for yourself: if you don't want to be attacked by Rustlers, learn to defend yourself from them.
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Newsflash:
Thnx to the continues arguments and bullshit thats goin on gryphus. They are going to close down the suggestionboard. I blame you ofcourse.
Well no problem, suggestion board is useless anyway: they aren't accepting almost any suggestions... ::)
Besides, I think you were one of those who were saying that they should close it to clean it up.
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Btw Those newbies have to learn how to fight someway or another and by telling regulars to NOT KILL THEM they will never learn how to fight. And if they dont ask anything of the players that could help them get better or how things work well then thats their problem nothing we can do about. Even if they are from different language there are always peeps on from same language or what ever. So please stop using the bullshit argument that newbies have to be held up high as saints like they cant be touched cuz they are new.. Its a fuckin DM server and they know it the moment they join the server.
Apply this same argument for yourself: if you don't want to be attacked by Rustlers, learn to defend yourself from them.
Rocket Launchers! Heat seeking missiles!
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Newsflash:
Thnx to the continues arguments and bullshit thats goin on gryphus. They are going to close down the suggestionboard. I blame you ofcourse.
Well no problem, suggestion board is useless anyway: they aren't accepting almost any suggestions... ::)
Besides, I think you were one of those who were saying that they should close it to clean it up.
You make it sound like it's mainly our problem. I wonder why we don't read it.
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Rocket Launchers! Heat seeking missiles!
You make it sound like it's mainly our problem. I wonder why we don't read it.
Sorry Hazard but I don't get what you mean. Are you saying that the only way to defend oneself from a Rustler is by using bazookas? and that you the LW staff don't read suggestions because of the fights they end in?
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Sorry Hazard but I don't get what you mean. Are you saying that the only way to defend oneself from a Rustler is by using bazookas? and that you the LW staff don't read suggestions because of the fights they end in?
Hes mocking you for your stupid threads. Just a hint.
I seriously doubt that: Hazard has always seemed to me like one of the few coherent people in this server. Unless someone has hacked his account like in the case of Disco.
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Hazard should answer for himself, very immature of you to speak on behalf of someone else Benny even though you're right about it.
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Yes you're very special.
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I stand neutral to thee :)
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1- I expect you to don't fucking advertise other servers, otherwise u contribute to get the server empty, and it should also be punished imho. If u want this server to get better, start avoiding to make advertising lmao, it looks stupid
I want the best for newbies, so what do you expect? also, if I can tell a friend about a server with private messages, why cannot I do the same with a newbie? specially if he is interested in planes like some of them were. Or do you expect this absurd situation?
-Newbie: I like planes.
-Gryphus: Ok you like planes but stay here in LW despite of it not offering anything for planes so all regulars can kill you and don't go to any other server, even plane servers. No, just stay here.
why u want me to repeat things? :(
if a player enters a dm server, maybe he expects to play a DM gm, don't u think? :)
And also: do the newbies that enter LW pm you saying "i like planes." ? rofl
or maybe it's you pming players as they enter, advertising servers and telling them to go away? cmon don't try to mock me, it's useless
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Actually there was no mocking of the thread, I just posted an outrageous solution; not cool that it was twisted around to change it's original meaning (some light humour) ..
I was just stating my opinion in the second post (I had already submitted the first).. What happens in the suggestions board has spilled over into this topic. There's a certain group (yes, not limited to one person) of people who never back down your arguments (even when wrong); the arguments become over complicated, points get overlooked, circles are created. then someone puts the final foot down and boom-- hell breaks loose on the developers. I'm not goin to explain my other opinions again. (http://blog.seachimp.com/?p=6)
Anyways, lets get off this topic. If anything happens to suggestions forum then you'll probably have another chance to have it explained to you. If you don't like this topic then don't destroy it, we all have assholes opinions; just because someone makes a topic doesn't mean it's correct.
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as i said:
gryphus should be banned for advertising other servers to new players who just joined lw.
he may already have reduced the player count by like 10-20 players. maybe more if he really pmed every single new player he could find.
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I'm at a point thinking that it could be quite cool to have some rustler challenge, just something simple (is it simple? ;P) like the corona-track in FlyingSchool in SP.
But nothing else, even this would rarely be used, so will other things to do with.
Now, before anyone says "gosh he one of demz1!!1111!!!!!69!!!!1oneoneoneeleven", I got to agree with this one:
gryphus should be banned for advertising other servers to new players who just joined lw.
he may already have reduced the player count by like 10-20 players. maybe more if he really pmed every single new player he could find.
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I'm at a point thinking that it could be quite cool to have some rustler challenge, just something simple (is it simple? ;P) like the corona-track in FlyingSchool in SP.
But nothing else, even this would rarely be used, so will other things to do with.
sure, once the challenge thing is back you can add some flying school like mission too. i dont care. but you should make it imopssible to kill racers with a rustler.
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I'm at a point thinking that it could be quite cool to have some rustler challenge, just something simple (is it simple? ;P) like the corona-track in FlyingSchool in SP.
But nothing else, even this would rarely be used, so will other things to do with.
sure, once the challenge thing is back you can add some flying school like mission too. i dont care. but you should make it imopssible to kill racers with a rustler.
Ohh, so you finally admit that we the pilots need something ehh? because your attitude until now has been:
"m3h n0 n0 rU$tL3rZ 1n r4c3$ >:( >:( bUt d0nT g1v3 aNyTh1nG t0 Th3m c0$ n0b0dY g1v3$ a fUk ab0uT g4ypL4n3z ;D"
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i didnt admit anything.
if, in return, race rustlering will be impossible im ok with a few retarded plane checkpoint challenges.
but first the challenge thing has to be back. races with rustler are retarded - only time trials could be funny.
but im sure you will cry even more if race rustlering is impossible.
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I agree on that m8, ive seen gryphus db new players aswell that have shot at him and they just leave right after. Ive seen gryphus shoot players cars in desert with his rustler and then leave. Hes a hypocritical backstabbin person if you ask me.
Yeah that's the point: I only attack a newbie if he attacks me first. And holy shit!!! wtf do you expect me to do then?? stand right there like an idiot for him to kill me?? I help newbies, yeah, but I'm not as stupid as to let them kill me without resistance. You yourself have said that they shot me first, so they deserved that I killed them!! it was in my SELF DEFENCE!! So if they leave the server right after that, it's because they are some narcisist kids that think they can attack anyone but not be attacked themselves.
And drop already that stale argument of "Rustlers destroying cars in the desert", this is a fucking dm so you are the hypocritical kid here.
Ohh, and about me telling newbies to go to other servers: if they really LIKE this server, they will stay here anyway!!! no matter what I tell them. And if some of those newbies have left the server is because they didn't like it and would have left anyway. The only difference is that if I tell them about other servers they can go there after leaving LW, instead of getting stranded in the endless Samp list. And even with all of this, I have only seen 1 or 2 of those newbies playing in the servers I told them about, so it isn't that I have made so much damage to LW.
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Same discussion 24/7. Just pm eachother this, we all know gryphus likes rustler and a few people disapprove. It's always the same thing with long paragraphs that only 5 people read.
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jesus fucking christ i come here for this...?
its about time you 2 fucked or something, stop fucking up the fucking forums with your bullshit