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Other => Off-Topic => Technical Support => Topic started by: tony_ab on January 23, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
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So here's the deal: i'll have about 1000$ for a laptop probably at the end of this year (i know its far from today, i just wanna check all possibilities.)
There will be needs for school, 3d modeling, and it would be really nice if it could handle almost all today's games easily. (idk if thats possible for that money, just hopin)
So, if you got any suggestions, please post em :) thanks in advance.
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All games of today probably not possible..
Your talking atleast 8 gig of RAM,
Atleast a ATI Radaeon 69xx
Or one of the latest Nvidias
And one of the latests CPUs
For a laptop like that to play all games that u can nowadays, you would need atleast 1500 to 1600
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All games of today probably not possible..
Your talking atleast 8 gig of RAM,
Atleast a ATI Radaeon 69xx
Or one of the latest Nvidias
And one of the latests CPUs
For a laptop like that to play all games that u can nowadays, you would need atleast 1500 to 1600
look its fine if it can run BF3 on low to medium settings...
i didnt mean that it should run all games on max settings ;)
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A simple solution:
Buy a PC.
Also, if you wont have the money till the rest of the year then ask at the end of the year. Technology advances at a very quick rate, and by the end of the year what you are told here could be redundant/useless.
Also, i dunno how $ converts to £ for laptops and what is available where you are. The only tip i can give, which i have been given before is - Do not buy a dell.
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A simple solution:
Buy a PC.
Also, if you wont have the money till the rest of the year then ask at the end of the year. Technology advances at a very quick rate, and by the end of the year what you are told here could be redundant/useless.
Also, i dunno how $ converts to £ for laptops and what is available where you are. The only tip i can give, which i have been given before is - Do not buy a dell.
Do not buy Dell, or Packard Bell. Infact try to assemble a PC yourself. More bang for your buck. No useless crap etc etc.
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my old pc is a packard bell, was awesome for ... 5 years? then the motherboard pooped, replaced it and it still runs great
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All games of today probably not possible..
Your talking atleast 8 gig of RAM,
Atleast a ATI Radaeon 69xx
Or one of the latest Nvidias
And one of the latests CPUs
For a laptop like that to play all games that u can nowadays, you would need atleast 1500 to 1600
look its fine if it can run BF3 on low to medium settings...
i didnt mean that it should run all games on max settings ;)
Well with my acer i3, nvidia 540M 1 gb and 4 gb ram i run BF3 @ medium.The laptop costs 1050 bulgarian levs (under 1000$ ).But at the end of the year for 1000$ i think u will be able to buy good laptop with 8 gig of ram and i7 and good videocard.Also what program u use for 3D modeling ? I can test how will run on my laptop.
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ASUS G74SX-TH71 Notebook PC - Intel Core i7-2670QM 2.2GHz, 12GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, Blu-Ray Player, 3GB Nvidia GTX560M, 17.3" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Black $1,299.99
Intel Core i7-2670QM (2.2GHz) Processor
12GB DDR3 Memory
17.3" HD (1600 x 900) Display
500GB 7200 RPM
Nvidia GTX 560M 3G GDDR5 Graphics
Blu-ray-enabled DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
802.11BGN and Bluetooth 3.0 Connectivity
8 Cell Battery
2.0M Pixel Webcam
Laptop im looking at, a bit more then 1000$ but totally worth it.
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ASUS G74SX-TH71 Notebook PC - Intel Core i7-2670QM 2.2GHz, 12GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, Blu-Ray Player, 3GB Nvidia GTX560M, 17.3" Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Black $1,299.99
Intel Core i7-2670QM (2.2GHz) Processor
12GB DDR3 Memory
17.3" HD (1600 x 900) Display
500GB 7200 RPM
Nvidia GTX 560M 3G GDDR5 Graphics
Blu-ray-enabled DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
802.11BGN and Bluetooth 3.0 Connectivity
8 Cell Battery
2.0M Pixel Webcam
Laptop im looking at, a bit more then 1000$ but totally worth it.
thanks pal, thats very awesome actually.. tho, isnt 2.2 GHz abit low for an i7? also, hard disk :D
yeah i know things will change by the end of the year, i just want a pretty decent laptop which can be used for everything.
also ACE, i have a PC, but as i am in apartment and its crowded here + parents dont allow it i cant buy another PC. the other thing is that im gonna need to bring it into school and university later D:
that thing which Jets found is great, but i think its alittle bit too much (12 gigs of RAM :o).
thanks for all the help, ill keep searching aswell and ill ask you guys here what you think about it ;D
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For modeling programs as the one you use. You will find it greatly needed to have 12 gig of RAM. You could never have to much of it to be honest. And a 2,2Ghz quad core i7 is perfectly fine. You don't really see much higher CPU speeds than that with Intel. The ones that are higher than 2,2 Ghz usually cost a lot more money. I'm not to sure about the video card. But it looks good this laptop.
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thanks pal, thats very awesome actually.. tho, isnt 2.2 GHz abit low for an i7?
1) Intel CPU's tend to have bigger L2 and L3 caches which make the 2.2 ghz speed a mute point. L2 and L3 caches will make the cpu faster. (its interesting to read about it)
2) take you PC to school. You will have one kick ass fast computer at school and the muscles of an Athens legend but the end of the uni course!
3) on a serious note i have nothing else to add now.
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thanks pal, thats very awesome actually.. tho, isnt 2.2 GHz abit low for an i7?
1) Intel CPU's tend to have bigger L2 and L3 caches which make the 2.2 ghz speed a mute point. L2 and L3 caches will make the cpu faster. (its interesting to read about it)
2) take you PC to school. You will have one kick ass fast computer at school and the muscles of an Athens legend but the end of the uni course!
3) on a serious note i have nothing else to add now.
well your the one who knows how to make people laugh for sure.
thanks for the advice, ill read an article bout that ;)
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The laptop I suggested should be more then enough, and should last you long enough, to get you through college, and more. Its more then what you need. The graphics and memory are great for this price.
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All games of today probably not possible..
Your talking atleast 8 gig of RAM,
Atleast a ATI Radaeon 69xx
Or one of the latest Nvidias
And one of the latests CPUs
For a laptop like that to play all games that u can nowadays, you would need atleast 1500 to 1600
look its fine if it can run BF3 on low to medium settings...
i didnt mean that it should run all games on max settings ;)
Well with my acer i3, nvidia 540M 1 gb and 4 gb ram i run BF3 @ medium.The laptop costs 1050 bulgarian levs (under 1000$ ).But at the end of the year for 1000$ i think u will be able to buy good laptop with 8 gig of ram and i7 and good videocard.Also what program u use for 3D modeling ? I can test how will run on my laptop.
Keep in mind that prices are different in other countries. One and the same laptop could cost 1500 for me while it would cost someone in America or China 1000 or 800 bucks...
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All games of today probably not possible..
Your talking atleast 8 gig of RAM,
Atleast a ATI Radaeon 69xx
Or one of the latest Nvidias
And one of the latests CPUs
For a laptop like that to play all games that u can nowadays, you would need atleast 1500 to 1600
look its fine if it can run BF3 on low to medium settings...
i didnt mean that it should run all games on max settings ;)
Well with my acer i3, nvidia 540M 1 gb and 4 gb ram i run BF3 @ medium.The laptop costs 1050 bulgarian levs (under 1000$ ).But at the end of the year for 1000$ i think u will be able to buy good laptop with 8 gig of ram and i7 and good videocard.Also what program u use for 3D modeling ? I can test how will run on my laptop.
Keep in mind that prices are different in other countries. One and the same laptop could cost 1500 for me while it would cost someone in America or China 1000 or 800 bucks...
yeah i am quite aware of that, cause in Croatia everything is super expensive -.-
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Well yea i would say the same here in my own country. But i looked it up and that laptop costs more here. Its not 1000$ (760 euro)
But more or less 1200 euro (roughly 1500$)
So i think asking for a laptop for that kind of money you need to start looking in your own country, and come back here with the specs. Give like a couple of laptops. So people can help you decide to see whats best for the requirements you have.
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1000$ should be well enough for a laptop well at least in the United States, Idk how bad prices are bulked up in other countrys. If you need help, I can recomend another laptop.
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na its okay, ill just ask here when i find something attractive :D
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any thoughts about this one?
https://content.it4profit.com/itshop/itemcard_cs.jsp?ITEM=110922051829888502&THEME=asbis&LANG=en
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Its good but for the 3D modelling you want to do i would personally go for atleast 2 to 4 gigs more RAM. So that you have like 6 or 8 gigs of RAM.
The CPU its an i3, i think you can get better for that kind of money. Like atleast an i5 or i7 even.
Other than that it looks decent but for that price i would not buy it myself.
Wait whats the price on that laptop ? Cuz it doesnt say.
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dont buy it!
the resolution is absolutely pathetic.
with $1000 you should be able to get 1920x1080 easily.
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nonono, i forgot to mention, i was in a hurry: the laptop we had till now died 2 days ago, so we need to buy a new one asap cause its needed for school.. The budget we have is 720 bucks, and this is the best deal i managed to find in our country.. So now i need your overall opinion on this one considering its 700 bucks.. And as i managed to see, it can run all (yes, bf3 too) newest games atleast on low settings..
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and ram is upgradable to 8 gigs too..
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If its urgent like that for school. Then go for it i guess.. But as bikedriver said that graphics card is shit and would run BF3 at like maybe 20 fps or so. 25 on low settings maybe
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wasnt talking about the card, was talking about the screen itself.
i wouldnt buy it, seriously.
even office tools suck at such a low resolution.
also 700 bucks dont seem to be too cheap for it.
in my opinion the resolution is the most important thing for a school/internet laptop. laptops are not made for gaming anyway.
what tools are you going to use on it? programming stuff? office? photoshop? all of them are a lot more confortable to use on higher resolutions.
also you will only end up playing games in school if its too powerful :-X
of course thats only my taste. i just love 1080p resolution laptops. so much sharper, more detailed pictures..
oh and you can watch FULL HD PORN while laying on your bed. :) :) :) :)
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yeah i know the res isnt really big, but every single laptop which had better res is actually much more expensive (no damn idea why).. And we really cant afford anything better now as my parents are in an.. umm.. financial crysis? (or w/e its spelt like)
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yeah i know the res isnt really big, but every single laptop which had better res is actually much more expensive (no damn idea why).. And we really cant afford anything better now as my parents are in an.. umm.. financial crysis? (or w/e its spelt like)
Then go for something alot cheaper and just for school not for personal use like games... thats my opinion... and let ur parents use that money for their financial situation...
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we bought it, and for now i can say its really good. fast and neat, installed win 7 ultimate 64bit on it and works perfectly.. its not a gaming laptop, but it can run almost all games smoothly (im not a graphics biatch, so im fine :D). for my sis' needs, it will be just fine. yeah i know i forgot to mention its actually my sisters, but i use it alot aswell. Thanks for the tips guys!
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i forgot to mention its actually my sisters, but i use it alot aswell.
don't download porn you lil' perv ;D
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so everything is going fine, installed the drivers, but i keep noticing one thing:
i enabled the CPU meter gadget on desktop, and i see that the RAM is used 30% - 36% all the time (that would make almost 2GB out of 4)
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgM0sv.png&hash=2c55ca27d7ff4654cb9bc5dbaa1b6c488d3ae8c2)
All programs are shut down. Does the windows 7 consume so much memory? Will it affect games if im gonna play something?
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What did u expect... You installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Minimum Ram for Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit is 4 gig.....
Thats why i said get a cheaper one instead and save up for a gaming rig. As bikedriver pointed out laptops are not meant to be doing heavy duty gaming like BF3 not even on low settings.
Install Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit instead and the max RAM your OS will use is 4 gig. For the OS itself it will use only 2 gig max.
It will affect gaming, if all of the ram is consumed already it will fill up the buffer and you will start to lose FPS overtime.
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so, if i install 32bit, all 4 gigs will still be usable? Also, i wont be playing hardcore games like BF3 so no worries.. (mass efect series, mw3 and NFS the run might be the most demanding
ill play..)
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actually i just found that ur wrong D: if i install a 32-bit windows, it will use maximally 3.5 GB of RAM (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/taking-the-mystery-out-of-64-bit-windows)
So if i wanna use all my 4 gigs, i need a 64 bit version. And also, ALL versions of windows 7 have a requirement of 2gb of RAM. Ultimate doesnt need 4gb.
Also ill get a windows 7 professional, as my sister can get a legit copy from her college. The fact is that ultimate has only a few more features than the professional, so i guess i wont lose anything (ultimate has more of "pro user" programs stuff...)
anyways, thanks for the help.
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actually i just found that ur wrong D: if i install a 32-bit windows, it will use maximally 3.5 GB of RAM (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/taking-the-mystery-out-of-64-bit-windows)
So if i wanna use all my 4 gigs, i need a 64 bit version. And also, ALL versions of windows 7 have a requirement of 2gb of RAM. Ultimate doesnt need 4gb.
Also ill get a windows 7 professional, as my sister can get a legit copy from her college. The fact is that ultimate has only a few more features than the professional, so i guess i wont lose anything (ultimate has more of "pro user" programs stuff...)
anyways, thanks for the help.
Im not wrong. Windows 7 32bit supports up to 4 gig RAM but Windows itself only uses 2 gigs of that.... Thats what i meant.
Windows 7 64bit supports unlimited amounts of RAM (well if your motherboard only supports 16gig than u cant use more obviously)
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yeah okay i take back that u were wrong, guess i didnt understand what you said :P
oh and i did more reserach on the memory usage, and i found out that it isnt being really used that much; its got something to do with cache and virtual memory, but it mostly doesnt affect anything else...
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yeah okay i take back that u were wrong, guess i didnt understand what you said :P
oh and i did more reserach on the memory usage, and i found out that it isnt being really used that much; its got something to do with cache and virtual memory, but it mostly doesnt affect anything else...
Lol np
When you are gaming RAM is usually used to buffer, Sometimes theres shared memory when your motherboard allows it will be used for your graphics card if both motherboard and graphics card support it.