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SA-MP Server - 54.38.156.202:7777 => General => Topic started by: enkei on January 20, 2013, 09:57:33 PM

Title: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: enkei on January 20, 2013, 09:57:33 PM
Littlewhitey's server.

Once home to the most seasoned of duelists.
Once cherished by the most talented of racers.
Easily the most unsafe place in San Andreas Multiplayer.
'Twas no asylum to the easily intimidated.

The server is now a gost town.

Precipitation has cleansed the streets of blood. Drifting sand has entombed empty bullet shells. A Rhino's engine idles at area 69, begging to be used for mass destruction...
...But nobody ever comes.

It's funny. You can enter the server, still. You can still walk the streets, drive the cars, fly the planes, create gangs. You can still find millions of dollars in your bank account. You can still find Ammu-Nation shops open. You can still create races. But you're alone....

How could we let this happen to the FIRST server? I'm going to be quite honest here. The challenge at hand, is not getting 400 players. No; it's getting 30 players. After 30 players are in the server, more will come; no matter the game mode. Community, competition and population drive the bulk of players to SA:MP servers. A big fat zero is not appealing. A 10, 20 or 30 is, though. A 30 can turn into 100 with no effort.

Are there ANY plans to revive the server? I'm no programmer, but I can think of a hundred ideas to bring this forsaken city back to life; while remaining a pure-deathmatch server. If there are any programmers out there who pity the state of the server, you have my attention.

What's holding us back??
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: PawnFox on January 20, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Littlewhitey's server.

Once home to the most seasoned of duelists.
Once cherished by the most talented of racers.
Easily the most unsafe place in San Andreas Multiplayer.
'Twas no asylum to the easily intimidated.

The server is now a gost town.

Precipitation has cleansed the streets of blood. Drifting sand has entombed empty bullet shells. A Rhino's engine idles at area 69, begging to be used for mass destruction...
...But nobody ever comes.

It's funny. You can enter the server, still. You can still walk the streets, drive the cars, fly the planes, create gangs. You can still find millions of dollars in your bank account. You can still find Ammu-Nation shops open. You can still create races. But you're alone....

How could we let this happen to the FIRST server? I'm going to be quite honest here. The challenge at hand, is not getting 400 players. No; it's getting 30 players. After 30 players are in the server, more will come; no matter the game mode. Community, competition and population drive the bulk of players to SA:MP servers. A big fat zero is not appealing. A 10, 20 or 30 is, though. A 30 can turn into 100 with no effort.

Are there ANY plans to revive the server? I'm no programmer, but I can think of a hundred ideas to bring this forsaken city back to life; while remaining a pure-deathmatch server. If there are any programmers out there who pity the state of the server, you have my attention.

What's holding us back??

You're right, we already working on 'something' but isn't nothing sure.
Also, programming isn't so easy, its takes alot of time and effort :).
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2013, 10:43:27 PM
The top dueller is still around  8)


As Pawn said, there is work being done atm, hopefully change will come and we can restore Littlewhiteys to its former glory!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on January 20, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Sometimes images say more than thousand words.
This is our server:
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.hubimg.com%2Fu%2F3339873_f496.jpg&hash=8fd8916400e5db9dd8acf9eb36768140e774b678)
This is the rest of the sa-mp world:
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_Co3VK11Ntcc%2FS99nVxA93CI%2FAAAAAAAAAl8%2FpDjf5Eijl9M%2Fs1600%2Fhighway2.jpg&hash=b8c80b87bb72f6e98652ddc2556bed90918ee901)
And the ones that work hard to change this situation are facing this:
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fipfactor.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2Fhighway2.jpg&hash=8eaaf6af7826d67291fc1046a284bda56ff11eff)



Sometimes you just have to accept things as they happen.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: enkei on January 20, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
So there ARE plans to take back the throne? That's fantastic news!!

What sort of changes are brewing? I know programming is tough. I tried to make my own server once, too. I tried to make a team deathmatch ONLY on the skyscrapers of Los Santos. They were connected by boardwalks. Falling was a more common death than getting shot. But, it never made it.

But really, I want the info. I want to know what's in store! :)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: PawnFox on January 20, 2013, 11:27:51 PM
As i said before, we can't promise anything but we really want a change. I can't tell you what contains untill a management member will announce it ofcourse at the right time.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on January 21, 2013, 12:03:54 AM
This is sad. I'm sorry, but I can't..
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: PawnFox on January 21, 2013, 12:37:46 AM
This is sad. I'm sorry, but I can't..

LOL  :o What you can't ?  :o
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: SKY on January 21, 2013, 12:41:05 AM
The top dueller is still around  8)


As Pawn said, there is work being done atm, hopefully change will come and we can restore Littlewhiteys to its former glory!

Thanks nemisis for mentioning my dueling rank once again. Anyways sarcasim aside, there are many people who tried  to aid this server from the wound it has for years. Ultimately what happens is that those who try never get passed as far and will end up giving up. But why do they give up? It is because most people who has power in this server cant give too much fucks to care any more because they are busy with their life now
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: SKY on January 21, 2013, 01:25:44 PM
The top dueller is still around  8)


As Pawn said, there is work being done atm, hopefully change will come and we can restore Littlewhiteys to its former glory!

Thanks nemisis for mentioning my dueling rank once again. Anyways sarcasim aside, there are many people who tried  to aid this server from the wound it has for years. Ultimately what happens is that those who try never get passed as far and will end up giving up. But why do they give up? It is because most people who has power in this server cant give too much fucks to care any more because they are busy with their life now

im not saying this in a sense that they should care about this server more, but im just stating the truth. However as im recently informed things are about to change.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: PawnFox on January 21, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
Why do you think they didn't care anymore about server ? If it was like this, i'm pretty sure the server was closed right now but as you can see the management/admin/development team is really active atm.

And may i ask you who informed you about any changes ?
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Slide on January 21, 2013, 01:51:18 PM
Seen so many of these topics already


 ::)

but good that people still care :)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Darfy on January 21, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
You know, this exact same thing happened to our server about 1 and half years ago. Players stopped joining and the server slowly withered away until it was shut down. 

After an year or so we decided the revive the server and look at it now, it's more active than ever having a player count of 30+ most of the time, all the way up to 48 on most evenings. The features we have now are almost identical to those we used to have so that's not the reason for the popularity.

During that 1 year old players started to miss playing at littlewhitey's and once the server was revived only handful of players played there regularly. My guess is that those players, along with the server's reputation, drew attention just enough to get newbies interested, resulting in them flooding in. My point here is, like enkei said; "A 30 can turn into 100 with no effort." That's what must have happened with our case, only in a bit smaller scale.

Anyway good luck to you guys, I hope everything turns out fine and you get your server active again! :)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Quickplay on January 22, 2013, 12:29:28 PM
I rather wonder how many threads will be opened again to say aaaaalways the same thing..
i just wrote this in the last topic someone opened about (obviously) the situation of the server, and here we go again

spammmmmzzz
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Raku on January 24, 2013, 10:52:54 PM
booya,let's bring this back!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: AJP on January 25, 2013, 12:08:58 AM
I would say would I feel about this, but my post would probably get deleted.

enkei, the server started losing players after the official list was removed and traded for the hosted servers list instead. There have virtually been no significant updates for years and that's not because people haven't put effort, but because so many people have modified this old script that it's just a mess of bugs and adding something worth scripting without bringing more bugs is more time consuming than just re-writing the script. There are a lot of other minor factors that contributed to this situation but losing the (arguably unfair) advantage of being on a recognized official list was (correct me if I'm wrong) the last time LW's had 200 players
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Habdel on January 25, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
I would say would I feel about this, but my post would probably get deleted.

enkei, the server started losing players after the official list was removed and traded for the hosted servers list instead. There have virtually been no significant updates for years and that's not because people haven't put effort, but because so many people have modified this old script that it's just a mess of bugs and adding something worth scripting without bringing more bugs is more time consuming than just re-writing the script. There are a lot of other minor factors that contributed to this situation but losing the (arguably unfair) advantage of being on a recognized official list was (correct me if I'm wrong) the last time LW's had 200 players

What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on January 25, 2013, 06:12:54 PM
Just to let you people know; Script can not bring anyone, treat can + make them stay.

Do I really have to explain everything to you!?

Alright, here's the thing.
People always loved LW's script, there's nothing wrong with it. It does has bugs, which even I can fix, but they stay for months.
Getting 323178 servers alongside LW's, on servers list was a huge loss for LW's player count. Nothing to wow there.
People always hated the LW's community, starting from the staff members. I'm not hating anyone but you all know you always were a douchebags. You're even bragging with it, so please do take it personal. People that stayed loyal to LW's, followed the douchebaggery of the those on top and community turned into crap.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.

Future of LW's will be as it is now. Even with new scripts. Even if Official tab comes back. Even if LW's will be the only server on that tab.

200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

After j0j0 became a management, knowing him, I hoped community will become more friendly and nice. After he left, I kinda lost all the hopes. Based on a way he left, prooves everything I just said stands strong and there is noone to say it doesn't.

Answer to your question, enkei. We had no choice. (by we, I mean players)

ps. I'm still waiting for that race. :P
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on January 25, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
People come and people go thats the way it has always been.

I would suggest people to move on since LW is not comming back to where it was or where people want it to be. There are the odd days when there will be 30 people in the server or more. You can't just sit back like a politician and debate for years and years only to change a few things. If you want to build up the playerbase again you need to start looking at what other servers are offering their playerbase and move with the flow. Yes people hate change (i am 1 of them) Thats why i would suggest making Littlewhiteys a Deathmatch server with subfeatures of RP and just enough to still be original. In some sort of Mafia/Mobster related theme. Doing heists, organised crimes, robberies, or what ever kind of RP theme you want as long as it has deathmatch in it (alot of RP servers dont allow or limit the deathmatch capabilities which is a shame since u got murderers etc etc in real life as well)

I think LW should go down these kinds of roads. Pull in elements of other servers but still be original.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: AJP on January 26, 2013, 02:56:52 AM
What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.
You're wrong in pretty much everything you said.

I don't know the first thing about scripting, but when Slice was trying to edit this script he would tell me all the time how the script is a mess. Same thing with Simon, Peter,  or Zamaroht. Why do you think Simon and Peter wanted to almost re-write the script entirely? Obviously the bugs in the script are hard enough to script to warrant that kind of a project. Why do you think we have had some of the most talented scripters in SA:MP and we don't have the most incredible game-mode anybody could ever dream of? LW's has plenty of bugs, and if you're so in denial that you can't admit it, then I pity you.

And I don't know why you think that there were 50 players during the official listing, but you're wrong. We had a "bad streak" where we had some trouble hitting 100 players but it quickly passed since people were coming back from school.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.
Regardless of what you may believe, I used to spend time and effort trying to make this server a fun place to be. And I don't hate you, you're just an annoying person. I used to enjoy playing here and making events and all that jazz that I once thought would pump life back into the system. The plain and simple reality is that the times we once had in this virtual space are gone, and the reason (in short) that I stopped being a patient, helpful, etc. admin here is because I realized this stopped being fun and became only irritating. If you really cared to find out about that kind of stuff instead of drawing to your own conclusions you could have simply asked me in PM.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: SKY on January 26, 2013, 01:47:49 PM
What bugs are you talking about? If it's about the duel arena pikcup, it is fixed by a cmd, if it's about the racehost checkpoint, it's an samp bug because the maximum amount of checkpoint allowed is 1, LW doesn't have bugs. And the last time LW was on the official list we had 50 players a day, soo it's clear that there is a problem about the UPDATES. And even if adding new things will make bugs, we need to do it, we have nothing to lose. Plus bugs can be fixed later if they are only minor.
You're wrong in pretty much everything you said.

I don't know the first thing about scripting, but when Slice was trying to edit this script he would tell me all the time how the script is a mess. Same thing with Simon, Peter,  or Zamaroht. Why do you think Simon and Peter wanted to almost re-write the script entirely? Obviously the bugs in the script are hard enough to script to warrant that kind of a project. Why do you think we have had some of the most talented scripters in SA:MP and we don't have the most incredible game-mode anybody could ever dream of? LW's has plenty of bugs, and if you're so in denial that you can't admit it, then I pity you.

And I don't know why you think that there were 50 players during the official listing, but you're wrong. We had a "bad streak" where we had some trouble hitting 100 players but it quickly passed since people were coming back from school.

I must admit and call out some names, like AJP, with who I had wars since I joined forums. These days, I feel like most of his hate had a good point and now I somehow feel sorry for taking LW's side in some cases.
Regardless of what you may believe, I used to spend time and effort trying to make this server a fun place to be. And I don't hate you, you're just an annoying person. I used to enjoy playing here and making events and all that jazz that I once thought would pump life back into the system. The plain and simple reality is that the times we once had in this virtual space are gone, and the reason (in short) that I stopped being a patient, helpful, etc. admin here is because I realized this stopped being fun and became only irritating. If you really cared to find out about that kind of stuff instead of drawing to your own conclusions you could have simply asked me in PM.

wise
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Fuse on January 26, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
Yeah, I can confirm it's a mess :-X
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: blewert on January 26, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F1T3Kd&hash=420dca914c604ba67bed448d591904368a421753)
                                                                         (https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F1T4hl&hash=f34b6a1a66e4de27391bac6ef2b1e0f18ee2ff02)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on January 26, 2013, 10:36:15 PM
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUhKsTwW.png&hash=71a2dfa13aaa6679e76e7534e60f0123ecebbb46)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on January 27, 2013, 02:16:41 AM
STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Bikerr on January 27, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
Quote
STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.

200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

And this doesn't?
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Navneet on January 27, 2013, 07:38:08 AM
Time never remains the same, HOWEVER good or BAD a situation is , it will change. Everything Gonna be all right. Best is yet to come Guyz .
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: blewert on January 27, 2013, 11:29:51 AM
STOP CRYING ABOUT THE OLD DAYS BASTARDS!

It just spice up the dead of littlewhitey's be.

(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F1TneS&hash=2fa55da8895de323fa9f6043e62fbf1992165866)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on January 27, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
200+ people or not, LW's will remain the same old gay community. And more people will hate it.

And this doesn't?
That is a fact.

(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F1TneS&hash=2fa55da8895de323fa9f6043e62fbf1992165866)
FU!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Rexâ„¢ on February 17, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
This is kinda like, the fall of a legend. The forum is bustling with players from all around, but the server still remains deserted..........
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: kenny01 on February 25, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
btw I miss you too blewert <3
even tho It's not me in your lovely signature
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Disco on February 25, 2013, 09:08:47 PM
Got not much to say that wouldnt lead to a forum ban again i guess ;)

But atleast i wish u luck with the server  :-*
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on February 25, 2013, 09:18:24 PM
This is kinda like, the fall of a legend. The forum is bustling with players from all around, but the server still remains deserted..........
Indeed, if forum users join server randomly, instead of farting how it's empty, it wouldn't be.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Disco on February 25, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
This is kinda like, the fall of a legend. The forum is bustling with players from all around, but the server still remains deserted..........
Indeed, if forum users join server randomly, instead of farting how it's empty, it wouldn't be.
Well i am only barely on this server most of the staff is pretty stupid ;)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Fuse on February 25, 2013, 09:48:39 PM
This is kinda like, the fall of a legend. The forum is bustling with players from all around, but the server still remains deserted..........
Indeed, if forum users join server randomly, instead of farting how it's empty, it wouldn't be.
Well i am only barely on this server most of the staff is pretty stupid ;)
True that..
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Swanson on February 25, 2013, 10:34:48 PM
Maybe the majority of admins needs to be kicked so they can make place for people who actually play and keep the community alive. Now it's always the same admins playing (I won't say names, ya'll know who they are) but that's not enough to keep shit interesting. Take a few fresh admins, kick out the rotten apples that have no use anymore and watch the playercount grow. Before people start crying about 'they proved themselves over the years and earned their stripes' keep in mind they got older, don't care anymore nor ever will again.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Disco on February 25, 2013, 11:08:41 PM
lol i wouldnt suggest them to promote new admins that would cause even more trouble lol
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Swanson on February 25, 2013, 11:18:29 PM
I'm saying kick out the old ones that never join the server or visit the forum. They don't care/have time anyway. New people deserve a chance.
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: blewert on February 25, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
btw I miss you too blewert <3
even tho It's not me in your lovely signature
<3

It is!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: kenny01 on February 26, 2013, 08:52:04 AM
:D
How long has that signature been there? <3
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: EnzoMortelli on February 26, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
:D
How long has that signature been there? <3
16th August 2012 13:39:40
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: Devilboy665 on February 26, 2013, 10:12:58 AM
...keep in mind they got older, don't care anymore nor ever will again.
I might grow older in ages count, but I still love this server the same way I lov'd it back when I first join'd it. I was nineteen. :D
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: kenny01 on February 26, 2013, 11:46:29 AM
:D
How long has that signature been there? <3
16th August 2012 13:39:40
wow that took me quite a long time to notice :( I'm sorry!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: SKY on February 26, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
:D
How long has that signature been there? <3
16th August 2012 13:39:40
wow that took me quite a long time to notice :( I'm sorry!

Hi kenny im toad
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: kenny01 on February 26, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
hi!
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: blewert on February 26, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
hi!
my dearest kenneth,

return to me :(
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: SKY on February 26, 2013, 09:17:13 PM
hi!

omg you actually responded! i thought you were gonna go inactive again (not saying that im active anyways)
Title: Re: How could we let this happen to our server?
Post by: kenny01 on February 27, 2013, 04:09:07 PM
hi!
my dearest kenneth,

return to me :(

MOAR HELIKILLING PLX!