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Other => Off-Topic => Topic started by: [eVo]PvtBenny on March 19, 2014, 08:41:47 PM
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Hey guys,
So here is the thing. I have used these Sennheiser CX250's for a long time. Probably had about 10 of these in the last 5 years. And im ready to get something different.
Im looking to spend roughly 50 to 100 euro (70 to 120 USD im guessing).
Things i look for:
- 7.1 surround sound (virtual or true)
- Good bass and clear sound (i am a nazi when it comes to this because i love my music)
- Noise cancellation
- If it is fancy or anything it should match the rest of my gaming setup (which is black and red)
- Needs to go over my ears (dont like it when its on my ears partially)
- Since i would use it roughly 5 to 6 hours a day it should not give me warm sweaty ears because that will start to irritate me.
I hope someone can help me out because im not looking to waste money on crap. And ive got no idea about headphones at all.
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You mean a headset with mic? I got a logitech g430 a month ago and i'm very happy with it:
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbsfotos.pccomponentes.com%2Flogitech_g430_gaming_surround_sound_7_1_290_290.jpg&hash=18eabbc134b2681ae063cbf72d656d04ffbb118f)
It's more for gaming than music, though. If you want it for music, then I have no ideas for you.
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(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.game.co.uk%2Fml2%2F2%2F6%2F6%2F1%2F266186_gen_b.png&hash=0c83a22e45405f3345e01b15783692e4b59cb356)
Gioteck EX-06 Wireless Gaming Headset (http://www.gioteck.com/products/ps4/ps4-headsets/ex-06/)
This seems to be pretty much what you're looking for. (bol.com) (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/gioteck-ex-06-draadloze-gaming-headset-pc-ps3-xbox-360/9200000020666285/)
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(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.game.co.uk%2Fml2%2F2%2F6%2F6%2F1%2F266186_gen_b.png&hash=0c83a22e45405f3345e01b15783692e4b59cb356)
Gioteck EX-06 Wireless Gaming Headset (http://www.gioteck.com/products/ps4/ps4-headsets/ex-06/)
This seems to be pretty much what you're looking for. (bol.com) (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/gioteck-ex-06-draadloze-gaming-headset-pc-ps3-xbox-360/9200000020666285/)
Doesnt have true or virtual 7.1 surround sound. And ive read some reviews which would not make me want to get it :(
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heard sennheiser makes good stuff
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heard sennheiser makes good stuff
that's true, but he said he had sennheiser for 10 years and he wants to change xD
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heard sennheiser makes good stuff
that's true, but he said he had sennheiser for 10 years and he wants to change xD
Thank you for pointing that out :P
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Sennheiser is bullshit. Had 4 different sennheiser headphones (different models, ranging from 50€ to 150€). Every single one broke within the first year of usage. I am now using a Beydynamic DT 990, 600 Ohm. No microphone, but fuck it. Peripheral gaming "gear" is designed to break apart once the warranty runs out.
The DT 990 is working fine since 3 full years now. Was the first thing I bought from my very first salary.
If you love listing to proper music and if the quality of most of your music exceeds 192 kbits aaaaaand if you have a decent soundcard, then gaming gear is not the best way to go. If you can do without the attached microphone, buy something proper, for example AKG or Beyerdynamic.
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I gotta agree with BikeDriver here. I personally don't think you'll find something good which have to feed all of your needs. I haven't come across good headphones that can purpose well for gaming AND music.
If you want 7.1 virtual or true surround for listening to music you're gonna have a bad time.
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A proper 2.1 sound system + decent soundcard is another option that i'm currently using
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I gotta agree with BikeDriver here. I personally don't think you'll find something good which have to feed all of your needs. I haven't come across good headphones that can purpose well for gaming AND music.
If you want 7.1 virtual or true surround for listening to music you're gonna have a bad time.
Yea i had a feeling about that. I can do without the microphone though.
Friends of mine and schoolmates suggested the Razer Kraken 7.1, but im not a big fan of all the Razer hype to be honest.
Ive also looked at the CM Storm Sirus 5.1, i have the soundcard capabilities for it on my MSI Z87-G45 gaming motherboard. It supports 7.1 HD audio or something.
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As faraday said, surround sound headphones do not work with music. It sounds like crap. Even the top-notch audiophile monster headphones (Beyerdynamic T1, 950€) are "normal" stereo headphones.
Maybe take a look at the Beyerdynamic MMX 300. Handmade in germany, 5 years warranty. But afaik only stereo too. Aaaaaaand 300€. It should be one of the best gaming headsets you can find.
http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300.html?SID=2054db5b559c8a9b32968e1d19765892&___store=en&___from_store=usa_en (http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300.html?SID=2054db5b559c8a9b32968e1d19765892&___store=en&___from_store=usa_en)
There also is a fully customizable version:
http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300-manufaktur.html?___store=en&___from_store=de (http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300-manufaktur.html?___store=en&___from_store=de)
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As faraday said, surround sound headphones do not work with music. It sounds like crap. Even the top-notch audiophile monster headphones (Beyerdynamic T1, 950€) are "normal" stereo headphones.
Maybe take a look at the Beyerdynamic MMX 300. Handmade in germany, 5 years warranty. But afaik only stereo too. Aaaaaaand 300€. It should be one of the best gaming headsets you can find.
http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300.html?SID=2054db5b559c8a9b32968e1d19765892&___store=en&___from_store=usa_en (http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300.html?SID=2054db5b559c8a9b32968e1d19765892&___store=en&___from_store=usa_en)
There also is a fully customizable version:
http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300-manufaktur.html?___store=en&___from_store=de (http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/gaming/mmx-300-manufaktur.html?___store=en&___from_store=de)
Well i only have roughly 50 to 100 euro to spend. Perhaps 120 but thats the absolute maximum i wanne spend really.
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I hav Marshall headphones and they sound A-MA-ZING. Only downside is that they're on-ear headphones. Allrhough they are quite comfortable, after 5 hours it starts to hurt..
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Hmm well Benny you know the deal.
If you buy a 120€ gaming headset then you will have to buy a new one in a year or so. But if you really want to risk it, then I can only recommend you to read some reviews/comparisons online as anybody here will only provide you his personal experience. Mine is: Sennheiser NONONO, Beydynamic OH YES. I have never personally experienced headphones made by another manufacturer but my Razer keyboard was shit (sent it back) and the logitech high end headset of one of my friends only brought him trouble. And he was to lazzy to send it back.
At least we agree on the matter that Sennheiser is worthless.
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The Sennheiser CX250 have always treated me well. But to me nowadays when i want to listen to something which has alot of bass i need to feel the bass you know.
Ive already decided on getting something with sound quality. Not gaming quality / experience. Ive been gaming less and less anyway. But i still listen alot of music, some might say that i am an audiophile of sorts. And also movies play a big role.
And i have also decided that i should pump up the max spending limit to 150 euro.
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You say it treated you well but also that you had 10 of them in the last 5 years. I don't get it.
What soundcard do you have?
And how high is the average bitrate of your music?
How loud do you listen to music? Do you ever max the volume out?
Do you want a headphone that is capable to cancle all the background noise so that you won't even notice a zombie apocalypse?
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You say it treated you well but also that you had 10 of them in the last 5 years. I don't get it.
What soundcard do you have?
And how high is the average bitrate of your music?
How loud do you listen to music? Do you ever max the volume out?
Do you want a headphone that is capable to cancle all the background noise so that you won't even notice a zombie apocalypse?
the sound card is build into the motherboard (MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard) supports 7.1 HD audio.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87G45_GAMING.html#overview (http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87G45_GAMING.html#overview)
Scroll down for the audio specs.
The bitrate variates alot. But lately i have started to just only use the loss less file formats such as .flac and such. If thats any help.
I never max out my volume it usually hovers between 25 and 50. Sometimes it goes over 50 if the audio is very low from like movies or something.
And yes i would love to cancel out the background noises and not hear the apocalypse comming.
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If you're an 'audiophile' (the word has a noob connotation for me) or a person who appreciate good sound quality, I suggest you get good speakers. Headphones are never the way to go to listen to music. At least not for me. When it comes to actively listening to music.
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Under given cicumstances (cash limit and specs), the only way to go is some random surround sound gaming headset for 100-150€, as the ones that were linked here before. As I have said, take a look at some customer reviews or comparisons.
You need a separated non-gaming sound card and a non-gaming headphone for really great music quality.
I'd say do as you see fit and when the time comes and your headset breaks apart, consider buying 'audiophile' equipment. From my experience you will play less and less video games but listen to more and more music. As you said, you download less and less MP3s and more and more FLACs. I did exactly the same.
I am currently using a Xonar Essence STX soundcard (150€), Logitech Z2300 2.1 System (150€) and named Beyerdynamic headphone (custom one, 350€). Worth more than the rest of my PC.
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If you're an 'audiophile' (the word has a noob connotation for me) or a person who appreciate good sound quality, I suggest you get good speakers. Headphones are never the way to go to listen to music. At least not for me. When it comes to actively listening to music.
I live in a pretty old house, not the standard concrete blocks you see nowadays. So when i play some metal, hardstyle, rock, or pretty much any other type of music. You will hear it 2 floors down. And that would be on roughly volume level 25.
Ill go do some more extensive research on what to get exactly.
Ive got a good PC, roughly 1200 euro. But thats mainly based on performance i need for school purposes.
Intel i7 4770K
G.Skill 16gb RAM 2133Mhz (for VM purposes)
GTX 770 2gb (it had 25% discount so i got it for gaming purposes)
120gb Intel SSD
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard (bought it for the HD audio stuff that was on there. And the possibility of maybe going SLI sometime in the future.)
EDIT:
What do you think about the Razer BlackShark ?
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From random customer reviews:
- Very strong bass, a little over the top (you like that?)
- Very tight fit, some people complain about ear pain (you sensitive, boi?)
- Some people complain about bad sound quality (both in- and ouput), you probably won't notice (as you are only used to onboard sound).
But yes it isolates you from the zomby apocalypse and it seems to have decent virtual 7.1.
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Well i think ive made a decision.
It either will be the Kraken 7.1
Or the Tritton 720+
Since im used to these Sennheisers it will probably be a major step upwards from what i know bass wise and overall quality.
Now its just down to which would fit me better.
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Order them both @ amazon and send the one you don't like back.
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Order them both @ amazon and send the one you don't like back.
I would have if i didnt have these 2x25 euro gift cards :P
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I don't see what the problem is.
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I don't see what the problem is.
Can only use the gift cards here in the netherlands :P Amazon doesnt take them.
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Order both headsets and send both of them back then LOL.
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Order both headsets and send both of them back then LOL.
Actually i should order just the Tritton 720+, it has a decoder box that comes with it. People say that if u have a SPDIF use it in combo with the headset the sound will be far better. Also it has a music mode, movie mode and game mode.
It has far more options than the Kraken has.
And if i wanne compare it to the Kraken i simply ask one of my classmates (5 of them have the Kraken 7.1) lol
Anyway thnx for the help guys :)
Respect!
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I was looking for some good headphones at a decent price for so long as well and somebody recomended me this:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/ (http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/)
Did you get the Tritton 720+ yet? If so, how is it?