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Offline Tecmega

Muted unfair
« on: February 12, 2016, 01:37:23 AM »
Nick used whilst ingame: [SP]Tecmega

Time and Date that you were muted: 11/02/16

Suspected Reason: None logical reason

Mod that muted you (if known): NikY.Wolf

Extra note: Forgive if the report is a bit out of the normal thing, but I could not find a better section for this message. The user NikY.Wolf muted me unjustly after verbally mistreating. Then I'll show an example of what happened (they can check later in pictures):

Discussion in the original language:

*KelviNN.: niky por que antes eras OSK y ahora OSC?

*[SP]Tecmega: por que quedó decepcionado de los OSK

*[OSC]NikY: tec no te cansas de hablar webadas?

*[SP]Tecmega: vaya modales

*[SP]Tecmega: ese es el lenguaje de un moderador?

Admin NikYWolf muted:[SP]Tecmega

(Moderador)NikYWolf: Callate si?


After i reconnect:


*[SP]Tecmega: ey

*[SP]Tecmega: muy bien niky

*[SP]Tecmega: te has ganado un reporte en el foro

*[OSC]NikY: evadir mute es motivo de ban noc si sabias

*[SP]Tecmega: no veo motivo alguno de ese mute, solo estas abusando de tu poder, pero bien, ya aclarare las cosas con un administrador.


Translated discussion: (I apologize if have an error)

*KelviNN.: niky why you before OSK? and now OSC?

*[SP]Tecmega: because he was disappointed of the OSK

*[OSC]NikY: tec you don't get tired of speak crap? 

*[SP]Tecmega: incredible manners

*[SP]Tecmega: that is the language of a moderator?

Admin NikYWolf muted:[SP]Tecmega

(Moderator)NikYWolf: shut up yes?


After i reconnect:


*[SP]Tecmega: ey

*[SP]Tecmega: very good niky

*[SP]Tecmega: you've earned a report in the forum

*[OSC]NikY: evade mute it is of ban i don't know if you knew

*[SP]Tecmega: I see no reason by muted, you're just abusing your power, but fine, and will clarify things with an administrator.

Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/6p7ct
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 11:24:35 AM by Darfy »

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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 06:49:52 AM »
I have moved this to the appropriate section, expect an answer soon

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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 10:12:52 AM »
seeing as it was Darfy's initiative to reinstate Niky.Wolf back into the admin team, I will leave it to him to make the final decision regarding the fate of Niky.Wolf as I am not bothered with this guy anymore, and neither do I want to read up on a trillion apology messages and oaths of never screwing up again on IRC when I'm back home in the evening.

there is one thing I'd like to put your attention to, however, and I want to make this clear for both the public, and the staff team.

this is unacceptable behavior, to start off with. I have said this before and I will unfortunately have to say this again - we, as the staff team of this server, do not have any rights of preference over our lower-ranked regular players, thanks to whom this server is flourishing today, and we do not have the right to treat them in such an insolent manner as Niky.Wolf has the original poster of this thread. in fact, let me put it this way - we, as the staff team of the server, have less rights and more responsibilities than our regular counterparts. sounds quite fucking shitty if you look at it from my perspective, eh? makes it seem like there is absolutely nothing fucking awesome about becoming a part of the staff team, because it is a job more than anything else.

I'm done here, have fun.

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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 03:52:02 PM »
I gave mute because attacked me and my clan saying take me desepcion why not use the tag "OSK" without knowing anything about it, at that time I was using the tag "SCO" just for the fun, and he said that, and I felt assaulted, which the non apologized and mutie, soon after he escaped and went back inside evading mute. Only that, the server rules say that you should not attack any player or staff member. Just say give rise to mute, did not give kick, there was little I should not have done. It's just another child crying and reports when a admin / mod called attention. Many players are on the server, and know how to take my desicions to manage and They know to I do a good job, Amiel, Usmanulamin, Riders and Hanney know that. I try to do the best for the server.





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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 04:31:14 PM »
I think the only person that really wants to assault you at the moment is me


how exactly did he assault you? all he asked you was why you were wearing a different tag...

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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 04:43:26 PM »
I talked to hanney to see if I may use the tag "SCO" just for the fun and he agreed, many players asked me and I told them it was a simple tag, Tecmega said, I left "OSK" because I wear a desepcion, insult my clan and me for that matter told to shut up if you do not know, and then I gave mute, therefore the evade my mute and then leaves saying it would report me.



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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 05:02:18 PM »
I don't see how he insulted your clan, at all

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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 05:11:47 PM »
if you are told that your clan is a desepcion not take it as an insult? as for me, if someone says my clan, which is a disappointment, for me it is an insult. Maybe you do not understand in your language because there are things in my language or culture are an insult, perhaps it's nothing for you, but for me yes. just like maybe I do not understand the European Humour.
I can not judge if you do not understand the meaning of some words in Spanish, and that one word can have more than 3 different meanings, depending on how and where you use them. I did just the right thing, did not give ban a stupid reason, it was only a simple mute, by which a child who has nothing else to do, it is dedicated to reporting publicly in the forum. I do not disrespect, but it is my opinion
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 05:14:24 PM by NikY.Wolf »



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Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 05:13:59 PM »
I'm leaving you to Darfy, not bothered anymore

Offline Tecmega

Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 01:52:28 AM »
if you are told that your clan is a desepcion not take it as an insult? as for me, if someone says my clan, which is a disappointment, for me it is an insult. Maybe you do not understand in your language because there are things in my language or culture are an insult, perhaps it's nothing for you, but for me yes. just like maybe I do not understand the European Humour.
I can not judge if you do not understand the meaning of some words in Spanish, and that one word can have more than 3 different meanings, depending on how and where you use them. I did just the right thing, did not give ban a stupid reason, it was only a simple mute, by which a child who has nothing else to do, it is dedicated to reporting publicly in the forum. I do not disrespect, but it is my opinion

First, I do not know if you can understand what i said, I said it in the shape of joke, and did not say exactly that " your clan is a disappointment " I said: " he remained disappointed of the OSK " (as you can see in your illustration). Really your reaction was exaggerated, you leave yourself to go too much for your emotions, and to qualify my person or some another user like " another child who cries " really stops much about which to speak.

And in addition I can see that you have an imbalance as for the sense of the correct thing.

For example, another day when I killed you for the back, you said to me: "you are of the disgust tecmega". Lamentably of this already I do not have record, but the topic is that I can manage to believe, that if i had said the same thing of you, surely had me expelled or muted.

My conclusion is:  If a moderator is carried away by trivialities, as this case represents, will have problems to future.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 03:34:45 AM by Tecmega »

Offline Darfy

Re: Muted unfair
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 11:22:35 AM »
Had hard time deciding what to do here.

According to the evidence given, Niky.Wolf did misuse the powers granted by his position over a such a minor assault, should it be called one or not.

From another perspective, this report smells like just another attempt to defame Niky.Wolf and make him lose the position. Like said, the translation might not be 100% accurate and so some of the content might slightly differ from what was intended and presented, more or less favoring either of the parties.

Either way, this is an unfortunate case which could have been easily avoided but turned out to be a bigger fuzz than it actually is instead. Unfortunate too that this is what me and morphine have to waste our time on while there are many higher priority matters to be dealt with.

@Niky.Wolf: I have decided to issue you an official warning. Why I chose not to remove you from the staff is solely because I do not feel this report outweighs all the effort you have put to make this community a bit better place.
I shouldn't even mention that you're on very thin ice right now. I urge you to carefully consider any action you make from now on especially if you even have a hunch it might lead to something not cool. I fully trust you with this position and I know you are mature enough to carry the responsibility. Now is your final chance to prove me right. Please don't disappoint me.

@Tecmega: I can't overlook the fact that you did violate the rules by evading the mute he was given too, regardless of whether it was justified or not. This is not acceptable, but under these circumstances no action will be taken against you.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 11:24:17 AM by Darfy »