[I] Police - Class Selection

[[JOKER]Miczi]

Alright, I would like to make you notice one thing:
This is not a new suggestion, it's just a return to old times. Possibly someone had one day posted a suggestion "change the spawn of cop skin to random" and it was accepted, but now, after a few months we have noticed that it was a mistake. We want to change it back, cause it was better then than it is now - we had more players, server had a better reputation etc. etc. so I think there are no reasons to say that it is a bad idea to make cops spawn in one place.

On the other hand, ye you should inform newbies about the spawn of cop skin and how to change the skin.

[Gryphus_One]

We want to change it back, cause it was better then than it is now - we had more players, server had a better reputation etc. etc. so I think there are no reasons to say that it is a bad idea to make cops spawn in one place.

Well, I have little else to say, but we should find out if the higher amount of players and the better reputation were caused by the police skin, or if it was pure coincidence.

[AJP]

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COP FIGHTS ARE FUN

[[JOKER]Miczi]

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COP FIGHTS ARE FUN

Indeed

[Gryphus_One]

Yeah, are fun for the regulars, but if you were a new player and were spawnkilled all the time, you wouldn't see it so fun...

[dugi]

Yeah, are fun for the regulars, but if you were a new player and were spawnkilled all the time, you wouldn't see it so fun...

Obviously you aren't playing here long enough to know that new players don't care about being killed/"spawnkilled", it's the regular players that don't like dying so much.

The cop skin was first in the class selection screen since 2006 till early 2009 and no one complained.

[Simon]

Since I am not a newbie, I cannot really think as one. I can try, but I am not a mind reader so don't know if it's truth. I just played under a completely random nickname with the extra spawn weapons (just added). I had a lot of fun there, might be the spawn weapons or might be the spawn but either way it was pretty kick ass, loads of people ready to fight me.

[Gryphus_One]

Obviously you aren't playing here long enough to know that new players don't care about being killed/"spawnkilled"

You contradict yourself: by saying "you aren't playing here long enough" you are saying that I'm a newcomer (which is true in part), but exactly because I'm new, I know very well what many newcomers will feel!! So trust me.

it's the regular players that don't like dying so much.

Yeah, because they are too worried about their stats...

The cop skin was first in the class selection screen since 2006 till early 2009 and no one complained.

Why was it removed then?

I just played under a completely random nickname with the extra spawn weapons (just added). I had a lot of fun there, might be the spawn weapons or might be the spawn but either way it was pretty kick ass, loads of people ready to fight me.

Yes but take into account that there were two important differences: although you use a new, random nick, you are still an experienced player and you know how to fight. And second, in that moment there were the spawn weapons, but now they aren't available and you spawn only with deagle again.

[AJP]

Yeah, are fun for the regulars, but if you were a new player and were spawnkilled all the time, you wouldn't see it so fun...

Look I'm pretty sick of you're talk from the experience when on any other server 90% of the random noobs don't even care about dieing, they just care about getting quickly right back into the action. Just because you show a screenshot of one person who can talk english and says that out of the many who don't say a word and keep playing proves nothing. Cop fights are so much more fun than nam fights and nam is where most of the running weapons fights go, plus there's like 2 or 3 rampages located around the LVPD station and many newbies find this out quickly. I like there actually being action in the server and not just people drifting around las venturas looking for one player to encounter, the more you concentrate the spawns in one spot the better, and having nam balances it out because most of the good shooters go there.

Oh and also in the early days there used to only be 2 spawns in LVPD, now there's many including the interior, so noobs have a very fair chance to escape the chaos if they really wanted to do so.

[mayhem]

Yeah, are fun for the regulars, but if you were a new player and were spawnkilled all the time, you wouldn't see it so fun...

Look I'm pretty sick of you're talk from the experience when on any other server 90% of the random noobs don't even care about dieing, they just care about getting quickly right back into the action. Just because you show a screenshot of one person who can talk english and says that out of the many who don't say a word and keep playing proves nothing. Cop fights are so much more fun than nam fights and nam is where most of the running weapons fights go, plus there's like 2 or 3 rampages located around the LVPD station and many newbies find this out quickly. I like there actually being action in the server and not just people drifting around las venturas looking for one player to encounter, the more you concentrate the spawns in one spot the better, and having nam balances it out because most of the good shooters go there.

Oh and also in the early days there used to only be 2 spawns in LVPD, now there's many including the interior, so noobs have a very fair chance to escape the chaos if they really wanted to do so.

He's right + with these spawn-weapons it's really fun.I joined like 10 minutes ago and I fighted with them.

[Simon]

The cop skin was first in the class selection screen since 2006 till early 2009 and no one complained.

Why was it removed then?

I just played under a completely random nickname with the extra spawn weapons (just added). I had a lot of fun there, might be the spawn weapons or might be the spawn but either way it was pretty kick ass, loads of people ready to fight me.

Yes but take into account that there were two important differences: although you use a new, random nick, you are still an experienced player and you know how to fight. And second, in that moment there were the spawn weapons, but now they aren't available and you spawn only with deagle again.

1. Removed about the time 2.0 was released; a lot of dramatic changes happened to the script. It was removed because of pressure from some other staff members, they had the same reasons as yours. Now we are looking back and remembering a lot of fun that was believed to have been had because of the police spawn.

2. The spawn weapons are still there, they were added in the latest update. I know I am "experienced", I was just stating it was a lot of fun for me (hey, can't the older players have some fun too?)... it was still challenging (I do have a high ping and was playing on a laptop keyboard), maybe not as challenging as someone completely new but all the players who were police at that time were very responsive to the fighting and kept fighting after death.

I don't see how you could get constantly spawn killed at the police spawn, there are several vehicles and several spawns that aren't completely tied together. There are also several exits.. so unless some gang has the place on lockdown and are purposely blocking off all exits it's not a difficult task to get away -- imo, you won't be at the police spawn for 5 minutes just continuously dieing if you're new.

[Gryphus_One]

Oh and also in the early days there used to only be 2 spawns in LVPD, now there's many including the interior, so noobs have a very fair chance to escape the chaos if they really wanted to do so.

there are several vehicles and several spawns that aren't completely tied together. There are also several exits.. so unless some gang has the place on lockdown and are purposely blocking off all exits it's not a difficult task to get away -- imo, you won't be at the police spawn for 5 minutes just continuously dieing if you're new.

Ok in that case I think I have nothing else to say. I just thought there were only 1 or 2 spawn points and I was imagining a lot of regulars there creating a circle around the spawn point and shooting mercylessly as soon as someone spawned...

[Dominator]

I'm not even gonna read it all. I'm just gonna say, fuck off, it worked back in the days, and it will now. Atleast no nam camping no more which annoys me as fuck

[AJP]

Yeah there's around 10 spawn points in the LVPD area

[[JOKER]Miczi]

Oh and also in the early days there used to only be 2 spawns in LVPD, now there's many including the interior, so noobs have a very fair chance to escape the chaos if they really wanted to do so.

there are several vehicles and several spawns that aren't completely tied together. There are also several exits.. so unless some gang has the place on lockdown and are purposely blocking off all exits it's not a difficult task to get away -- imo, you won't be at the police spawn for 5 minutes just continuously dieing if you're new.

Ok in that case I think I have nothing else to say. I just thought there were only 1 or 2 spawn points and I was imagining a lot of regulars there creating a circle around the spawn point and shooting mercylessly as soon as someone spawned...

Don't argue about things that you haven't even experienced by yourself, how can you say that something is wrong if you don't even check it  Imagination is not enough to fight with ppl who have "participate" in PD fights hundreds of times...