Admin abuse much huh

[ToeJam]

I gotta laugh when I join LW and see how much admin
 abuse there currently is on the server. Ok where to start.

First think is the fact admin spawn NEXT to a heli so they just respawn and fly there heli to nam and before they even get out to fight they have to try to heli kill you. Now since when can regulars (not VIPs) spawn near a heli.

Ok next is the fact admin spawn with armour so when they get to nam they don't have to worry about having to refill since when they die they spawn with armour and wait next to the ammu Door and practailly aiming at the door for when regulars respawn and need to get armour.

Ok next 1 is the fact that admin get unlimited ammo aswell as all the guns (Uzi, Sawn, M4, Sniper where regulars actually have to earn money to buy guns via props,ship or bounties which makeit a bit unfair since most regulars buy just Uzi and sawns so when you a fair distance from them they use there M4 or sniper.

Ok last one now and it door camping. Under the Littlewhitey rules it clearly says Do Not camp interiors - let people enter and exit buildings freely yet admin always seem to be next to the Door waiting for regulars to enter so they can doorshot them.

Oh and don't forgot admin flame baiting regulars to wind them up and get them fired up and annoyed. It mainly Nem who does this though and practically breaking the admin rules about flaming and flamebaiting

And don't say that they get unlimited ammo for admining a server with normally no Less than 20 people which ain't actually hard to admin

[splatterpuss]

Ok so you've actually been explained all of these points several times before now by both admins and non-admins so hopefully this time you'll actually take the responses on board.

First think is the fact admin spawn NEXT to a heli so they just respawn and fly there heli to nam and before they even get out to fight they have to try to heli kill you. Now since when can regulars (not VIPs) spawn near a heli.

This has been in place for many many years and you are the first person ever to complain about it. Admins can't set their own spawn even though most of us are donators, VIPs can, and also if you want a heli you could set your skin as a pilot so that's basically an invalid point.

Ok next is the fact admin spawn with armour so when they get to nam they don't have to worry about having to refill since when they die they spawn with armour and wait next to the ammu Door and practailly aiming at the door for when regulars respawn and need to get armour.

Yes we spawn with armour but we do need to otherwise it causes us more problems when we use certain admin commands that I'm not going to go into. Also like I said we should but can't set our spawn so if we could we'd set it next to an ammunation. There is more than one.

Ok next 1 is the fact that admin get unlimited ammo aswell as all the guns (Uzi, Sawn, M4, Sniper where regulars actually have to earn money to buy guns via props,ship or bounties which makeit a bit unfair since most regulars buy just Uzi and sawns so when you a fair distance from them they use there M4 or sniper.

Wow you mean that's actually an advantage for admining? Heaven forbid we get a benefit from being admin, we should just do this unpaid work for nothing, that'd be much better.

Ok last one now and it door camping. Under the Littlewhitey rules it clearly says Do Not camp interiors - let people enter and exit buildings freely yet admin always seem to be next to the Door waiting for regulars to enter so they can doorshot them.

As many admins/players have explained to you ever since the start of the server NAM has been a clusterfuck of activity and we don't count hanging around nam as camping because EVERYONE does it and only you seem to complain about it. This is very hypocritical because I see you and your clan hanging around nam all the time. As both [V]Nithanael and [V] Dejo said today camping nam is acceptable since everyone does it.

Oh and don't forgot admin flame baiting regulars to wind them up and get them fired up and annoyed. It mainly Nem who does this though and practically breaking the admin rules about flaming and flamebaiting

I don't think I've ever killed you without you saying something flaming or claiming abuse.

And don't say that they get unlimited ammo for admining a server with normally no Less than 20 people which ain't actually hard to admin

Not hard to admin? You see the reports and the other warning signs of hackers do you? And then to top it off we have to admin the regulars more than anyone. Today 15 seconds after I logged in I started shooting a heli with you Dejo and Blewert in. After I killed you and you flamed me you then accused me of 'admin abuse'. So I asked what for. You said that I had increased my health from 190 to 200 after I blew up your heli (seriously, thats just dumb). Anyway I informed you that when admins heal themselves it is logged and blewert confirmed that I hadn't done that.

Now we have you screaming admin abuse all over the server but when asked what for you fail to give any answer at all. Quite frankly we are just regular players too but you think that the only way we can kill you is if we abuse... massively wrong.

Now as for the argument you claim ingame a lot that it's not fair and you need to get armor when we kill you at nam, well if you drive to nam where you know many people are going to shoot you that is likely to happen. As you've been informed many times you can go to another ammu.

Now when you run inside to escape from a fight it is highly likely you will get shot as you enter, thats allowed. When you start a fight 5v1 at nam, lose all your armour, and then decide to try to run into nam it's perfectly allowed for us to shoot you as you enter.

[Swanson]

But ofcourse if Toejam would get invited to become admin he would refuse it. But I'm pretty sure he's never going to be asked anyway because he cries too much, talks too much, and rages too much about peanuts. And I agree with splatter, you play this server now for how many years? And NOW you complain? Makes no sense.

[Nemesis]

Today I played with the same name (Gannicus) ive been using for about a month now, we had many fights at NAM (many where you had the help of a friend, Fastshoot) - I did not SPEAK when you two would attempt to gang up on me or even PM any one of you or whatever, their was no baiting. The second I kill you about the third of fourth time I get complaints (surprise surprise) about how im 6 shotting, have a shitty hitbox and am a undercover admin abuser "probably slide nem or fugi" - If i tell you to just shut the fuck up after that sorry son but you earned it, not to mention your buddy getting a mute for using the the N word

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If you can't handle NAM, don't go to NAM, end of

[splatterpuss]

Also you accused Tezza of admin abusing today because you respawned next to him when you respawn randomly, admins do not select where you respawn it is random...

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

Sometimes admins need to get somewhere fast, and using regular vehicles that u can find on the streets of LV isnt always an option. So admin roof comes in handy alot, plus the fact there has been an admin roof as long as i can remember (basically since i started back in summer 2006).

The armor thing i dont know what to think of it to be honest. Its not like admins need it or anything they could just drive to any of the ammu's to get their armor just like any player as well. And if commands can screw that up like you said splatter well then dont use them and go Ammu instead. You can go anywhere you like faster than everyone else with the admin spawn roof (and the hydra and hunter stuff) the armor is a bit overkill for admins. Other than that got nothing to say about this cuz its always been there and never has been mentioned or complained about before untill now.

They need the ammo and such to catch certain cheaters. Healthhackers for example. Or Vehicle health hackers. But getting unlimited ammo of it seems a bit much, why not just enough to be able to kill about 2 or 4 people. Like 1000 bullets uzi, 100 sawns etc etc. Reasonable amounts so they to have to buy when they run out, gives admins some actual gameplay as well i guess

If admins flamebait or flame, let them and do not respond to it. They will stop eventually. Its hard not to engage in an arguments sometimes (believe me i do it myself sometimes)

Aint actually hard to admin? When you get 10 out of 20 players being whiny bitches like you are right now in this topic Toejam you need about 5 admins to handle it.
When theres one admin on and he gets 5 reports on 5 different people, its impossible to check them all out within 5 minutes. It sometimes can take up to 10 minutes before the reported player does it again of what he was reported for in the first place. So even admining a 20 player server can be hard as fuck. You clearly didnt think that through Toejam.

[tezza]

Just to clarify another reason we have unlimited weps is so admins can just drop in for a 10-15 minute game without having to worry about spending 300k on weps, meaning theres an admin online.

It's a bit wierd that we actually have to suggest to you to go to another ammunation, most players would have considered that.

[n1K]

Admins cant set their spawn even if they wanted do, so guess they are compensated with spawn armor and infinite weapons, which is totally fair. Get over it Toe, you dont need to bring your cry topics here because you are constantly getting killed ingame. You even accused people of modding their game and blabla without having any idea of it.

[Slide]

We spawn without cash

So we kinda need that armour tho :p

And I don't see the problem that you have to earn cash by urself.
It's a point of the game play to earn it.

I kinda miss earning cash by myself..

But sometimes theres hardly time to do that.

So when I join the game ..... this comes up in the chat ...
Regulars screaming "Cheater id 5 airbreak OMG OMG OMG" "Other cheater id 9 FLY HACK WTF OMG" "Ban him NOW" "OMG" "BAN!!!"

We can't handle 2,3,4,5,6 cheaters at one time alone.
Some of the regulars actually learned to keep quite and report the cheater.

Anyways..

I don't see the problem if they removed the Armour for admin spawn. (If we actually spawned with cash like normal players).
I like that we spawn with a lot of weapons/ammo. It's helpful if we're joining to check some health hacker or something else. (Just for some minutes).

Well.. North Ammunation is a hot spot (War zone .. also a turf zone), I don't see the problem hanging there, while someone is inside NAM.
It's not "Admin abuse" just bcoz we're hanging there and fighting players. (As you call it... Door camping) you may taken it wrong.. (Maybe you got shot randomly when you left Nam interior, when someone is shooting outside NAM or maybe they didn't see you leave NAM interior and just started shooting after you... who knows. It doesn't matter. It's not camping).

[[JOKER]Miczi]

Believe it or not, but fullfilling my bank became almost impossible since becoming an admin. Billions of times when I was orginising an event, I got killed by some idiot, losing millions of money which were coming to me from my props. Finishing a race when you are the only admin online is almost impossible, cause every report means either warning/punishing/helping someone either watching someone for an hour to catch him repeating the crime (yes I had such cases many times). Many times I had to let someone kill me, cause in the middle of a fight I recieved a report that needed to be checked IMMEDIATELY and I knew, that my opponent would accuse me of abusing.  ig I left in the middle of a fight to watch someone.
Spawn armour and weps? Well, that is an advantage, but sometimes I'm joining for a few mins to check a single report, and I wouldn't like to spend 300k for weps. However, I usually try to avoid any form of 'abuse' as much as I can. When someone kills me near the admins roof, I try to wait for a moment before hunting him. This makes the advantage become a drawback - If I wait, he would run, If I hunt him asap - he will start crying. Example? I fight with a guy and he kills me with 5hp left and steals my money. If I was a normal player I would hunt him IMMEDIATELY, and maybe et him before he escapes to bank. But since I am an admin, he would call it abusoing cause of spawn armour. You have no idea how annoyinhg it is when yyou have to let someone run. Much worse than when you just fail to get him. So, being an admin may be cool indeed, but it limits you much aswell. As long as the admin is not willing to abuse, the current system is balanced in my opinion.

[Quickplay]

Believe it or not, but fullfilling my bank became almost impossible since becoming an admin. Billions of times when I was orginising an event, I got killed by some idiot, losing millions of money which were coming to me from my props. Finishing a race when you are the only admin online is almost impossible, cause every report means either warning/punishing/helping someone either watching someone for an hour to catch him repeating the crime (yes I had such cases many times). Many times I had to let someone kill me, cause in the middle of a fight I recieved a report that needed to be checked IMMEDIATELY and I knew, that my opponent would accuse me of abusing.  ig I left in the middle of a fight to watch someone.
Spawn armour and weps? Well, that is an advantage, but sometimes I'm joining for a few mins to check a single report, and I wouldn't like to spend 300k for weps. However, I usually try to avoid any form of 'abuse' as much as I can. When someone kills me near the admins roof, I try to wait for a moment before hunting him. This makes the advantage become a drawback - If I wait, he would run, If I hunt him asap - he will start crying. Example? I fight with a guy and he kills me with 5hp left and steals my money. If I was a normal player I would hunt him IMMEDIATELY, and maybe et him before he escapes to bank. But since I am an admin, he would call it abusoing cause of spawn armour. You have no idea how annoyinhg it is when yyou have to let someone run. Much worse than when you just fail to get him. So, being an admin may be cool indeed, but it limits you much aswell. As long as the admin is not willing to abuse, the current system is balanced in my opinion.

i'm glad that we have admins like you in LW, always thought it

[cripller]

?? I dont know Why People Cry so Much When They Are Killed! ITs Just A Game! Why So Serious? Toejam They Are Admin! if they Wont Use Admin Command Why They Are Admin's?? Indeed! You Want To sAy Using Admin Commands = ABUSING admin Commands?? :O If That So Noone Cant Help You ! Just Dont Go to NAM! SimplE Just Roam Around Nd Find Newbie Nd Kill THem You Wont Get A chance To cRy again! xD! GUd Idea? Isn't it??

[Disco]

The most Admins suck.
But i understand why almost every Admin turns into an asshole to the most normal players when they get nonstop annoyed by some fools that show up as tards with an IQ of 5 because of the language barrier.
I got to admit that i enjoyed annoying Admins often , but some guys like Pogeman,Gigo or TKS may dont know better with their 10 years, speaking a complete other language.
And SAMP itself got one of the most fucked up communitys i have ever seen, you wont find as many flamers and retards in any other game i guess.

[EnzoMortelli]

Being jealous much huh

BTW admins don't have infinite ammo, just 250k.

[Disco]

Being jealous much huh

BTW admins don't have infinite ammo, just 250k.

Thx for making an example of an retarded admin enzo!