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Offline Mr.DehshaT

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2015, 08:43:52 PM »
I wonder from which number of coincidences were an admin was not present in an emergency the statement 'never' was generalized. Also the definition of 'needed' is very spongy. Most of the time when i'm online i only see reports for new house interiours or false reports because pissed off newbs abuse the report command.

To make it clear. Many of us have a life and do not spend the majority of our days online, because we instead work, study or have families to take care of. We are not bots that will respond when commanded. Take a look at the cheater report topic. Personally i know of no hacker that hacked here beyond a week's time. We have quite a success rate in banning troublesome players of roughly 90% over time, and the rest 10% are one-day flies who leave after hacking once.
Even if we employ admins from different time zones - which we already did and still do - there will always be coincidences where no admin will be online. That's how life works. I may remind you that littlewhitey's is not a company, we are not hired and don't receive payment for our work as admins. The reason why we voluntarily spend most of our actual free time to watch over the server is solely that we care.

I can't pay my mortgage with this, or my taxes, not my car repairs, not the electricity bills, no insurance, i can't support my family with this work or even feed myself, but still spend more hours per day with it than i would on an actual job on a normal workday. And all of that because i have had fun here and i want to preserve it and make it possible for others to feel the same. All i am asking in return is just a little consideration and patience.

I respect you and your concerns , i'm just asking for some(more or less) admins which are responsible and have reasonable time for the game. Adding or demoting admins is up to management.
Its just, often it really creates problems when there is no admin present , be it co-incidence or anythng else.

« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 12:59:07 PM by Mr.DehshaT »


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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2015, 08:58:07 PM »
I agree with dehshat, there is nothing wrong with what he said.... I personally don't blame admins it is super wrong (we all thank you for your commitment and are aware that you have your own lives to take care of). It is nonetheless true that sometimes cheaters aren't banned directly and that because of the unavailability of admins. None of the admins should take that as a personal attack, they should instead look for solutions for this problem that is bothering the community.

PS: Naoufal plz your reply is off-topic.   

EDIT:After reading carefully I noticed that Dehshat is adressing the problem in a wrong way, his point is still valid tho..
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 09:05:05 PM by LoveLiveEatRepeat »


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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2015, 09:02:05 PM »
there are 8 inactive admins, may we know that why they're still admins,demote them and replace them with active ones
That Would Be Great!

That you even count them LOL.

Who said these admins are inactive? Maybe they're developers and working at the scripts? Maybe they're inactive, but temporary? Maybe they got someone they can't join the server like they are on vacation? Maybe someone died in their family and they aren't in the mood to manage the server?

Maybe you should stfu?
WHo is talking with you? why you interfare too much? i just asked admins not you
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If you wanna ask admins personally then don't fucking post on a public topic, PM them.

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2015, 09:04:00 PM »
I wonder how good you will be if you will be a admin. Being an admin is not the easiest thing to do here unless jerking like you at the server. Everyday there are admins online, but maybe when you play most of the admins are sleeping? Depends on timezone, bro.
Sleeping ones are good , But where are the other ones?? dead??

Tired of cheaters? Don't cry, record them and post here or look at IRC if a admin is online.
Yeah , of course. We wait for them to 'show' us their hacks, to record them. And then we 'hope' some admin will take it seriously to take some action.
We come here to play and enjoy. Not wait for some hacker to come, so that we can record him. its job of the admins.

this guy is right, they need admins with different time zones so in the server will be at least 1 admin online always.

He isn't right. Admins don't need to be everytime here. They have to study, piss, work, eat, chill with friends etc too.

Please.
We don't want all admins at the same time. We just need atleast any one of them.And i'm pretty sure they all don't study, piss, work, eat, chill with friends etc, at the same time.



So your point is; there need to be a admin online, ALWAYS. What about you open a server, try to grow up and see what will happen?

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2015, 09:11:17 PM »
Naoufal why don't you focus a lil bit instead of pointlessly defending admins. We are not questioning any admin's role in this community so stop sucking dicks. The point is we do understand they are busy AND AGAIN we thank them for their time in the server however we would appreciate as solution for this RECENT problem, that's about it..


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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2015, 09:28:38 PM »
Naoufal why don't you focus a lil bit instead of pointlessly defending admins. We are not questioning any admin's role in this community so stop sucking dicks. The point is we do understand they are busy AND AGAIN we thank them for their time in the server however we would appreciate as solution for this RECENT problem, that's about it..

I focus, but this topic is talked about like 1938373 times where they said every admin has their life and I don't suck dicks, so please.

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2015, 09:30:15 PM »
Most of the time Aryan is online  ::),
If you need help then ask him and also you both live in india.

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2015, 10:20:10 PM »
Naoufal why don't you focus a lil bit instead of pointlessly defending admins. We are not questioning any admin's role in this community so stop sucking dicks. The point is we do understand they are busy AND AGAIN we thank them for their time in the server however we would appreciate as solution for this RECENT problem, that's about it..

I focus, but this topic is talked about like 1938373 times where they said every admin has their life and I don't suck dicks, so please.

Wow man ur reply is as constructive as the others  ::). Again you fail to understand the legitimate point of this topic. No one is asking admins to give up their lives for the game. We understand they have their own lives and would appreciate if they could come up with any solution to get cheaters (PARTICULARLY) banned faster in their unavailability. Please Stop trying to turn this as a complaint against the staff team as it is clearly not, it is just a problem that needs to be addressed.   


Offline Naoufal

Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2015, 10:32:58 PM »
Naoufal why don't you focus a lil bit instead of pointlessly defending admins. We are not questioning any admin's role in this community so stop sucking dicks. The point is we do understand they are busy AND AGAIN we thank them for their time in the server however we would appreciate as solution for this RECENT problem, that's about it..

I focus, but this topic is talked about like 1938373 times where they said every admin has their life and I don't suck dicks, so please.

Wow man ur reply is as constructive as the others  ::). Again you fail to understand the legitimate point of this topic. No one is asking admins to give up their lives for the game. We understand they have their own lives and would appreciate if they could come up with any solution to get cheaters (PARTICULARLY) banned faster in their unavailability. Please Stop trying to turn this as a complaint against the staff team as it is clearly not, it is just a problem that needs to be addressed.   

I understand the point of the topic, but do you think something will be changed?

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2015, 11:00:55 PM »
This thread is completely useless.
No matter how many admins/mods/managers you have or how they are "dispersed" over different time-zones you will never always have at-least 1 admin online 24/7, that is unless every player is an admin which is completely out of question.
And as Enzo said, most of the reports we get are regulars who are angry because they get killed by an undercover/someone they don't recognize but who is as skillful as they are.
If there is a hacker who is annoying you (killing you with aimbot/hh...) just pause and wait for him to leave or quit and rejoin when he leaves... if you report him an admin from IRC will get to you as soon as possible.

As for me, I have been extremely busy with university studies so I will do as much as I can.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 11:02:42 PM by Lofty »

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2015, 11:05:06 PM »
I agree with dehshat, there is nothing wrong with what he said.... I personally don't blame admins it is super wrong (we all thank you for your commitment and are aware that you have your own lives to take care of). It is nonetheless true that sometimes cheaters aren't banned directly and that because of the unavailability of admins. None of the admins should take that as a personal attack, they should instead look for solutions for this problem that is bothering the community.
I understand the frustration that some players might feel when there are cheaters online and there's no way to get rid of them cause none of the staff is on. But this problem has always existed in kinda every samp server as far as i could see throughout several years...i've read topics like this so many times, and my conclusion is that is absolutely normal that nobody can ensure the presence of at least 1 admin online at ANY time, simply cause we ain't a company which plans work shifts to cover every minute of the day.

We do consider the possibility of promoting new staff members, when it doesn't happen either we don't think it's necessary or we don't think there's someone around suitable for the role.

In the meantime when there's the need to get rid of a cheater, if you're lucky enough to be in front of a newbie cheater, you can always try old tricks like the ones that tickle their pride like "hey noob, i guess you can't even spawn a minigun/jetpack!!", it sometimes works  :) i did it several times when there wasn't anyone online from the staff
« Last Edit: October 05, 2015, 11:07:34 PM by Quickplay »

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2015, 11:38:42 PM »
I wonder from which number of coincidences were an admin was not present in an emergency the statement 'never' was generalized. Also the definition of 'needed' is very spongy. Most of the time when i'm online i only see reports for new house interiours or false reports because pissed off newbs abuse the report command.

To make it clear. Many of us have a life and do not spend the majority of our days online, because we instead work, study or have families to take care of. We are not bots that will respond when commanded. Take a look at the cheater report topic. Personally i know of no hacker that hacked here beyond a week's time. We have quite a success rate in banning troublesome players of roughly 90% over time, and the rest 10% are one-day flies who leave after hacking once.
Even if we employ admins from different time zones - which we already did and still do - there will always be coincidences where no admin will be online. That's how life works. I may remind you that littlewhitey's is not a company, we are not hired and don't receive payment for our work as admins. The reason why we voluntarily spend most of our actual free time to watch over the server is solely that we care.

I can't pay my mortgage with this, or my taxes, not my car repairs, not the electricity bills, no insurance, i can't support my family with this work or even feed myself, but still spend more hours per day with it than i would on an actual job on a normal workday. And all of that because i have had fun here and i want to preserve it and make it possible for others to feel the same. All i am asking in return is just a little consideration and patience.





About the topic,we all becomes frustrated when we gets killed by a hacker and there is no admin to take care of it..But we have to keep calm and think for some ways to take him out in case there's no admin..There are ways you can troll a hacker too  ::)

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2015, 12:39:53 AM »
Mr.DehshaT for admin pls. faggots.

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2015, 03:24:45 AM »
You should use fraps and report that hacker on forum.

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Re: Admins are never present when needed
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2015, 03:57:49 AM »
I agree with dehshat, there is nothing wrong with what he said.... I personally don't blame admins it is super wrong (we all thank you for your commitment and are aware that you have your own lives to take care of). It is nonetheless true that sometimes cheaters aren't banned directly and that because of the unavailability of admins. None of the admins should take that as a personal attack, they should instead look for solutions for this problem that is bothering the community.

PS: Naoufal plz your reply is off-topic.   

EDIT:After reading carefully I noticed that Dehshat is adressing the problem in a wrong way, his point is still valid tho..

Exactly LoveLiveEatRepeat, Thank you [+1]


I understand the frustration that some players might feel when there are cheaters online and there's no way to get rid of them cause none of the staff is on. But this problem has always existed in kinda every samp server as far as i could see throughout several years...i've read topics like this so many times, and my conclusion is that is absolutely normal that nobody can ensure the presence of at least 1 admin online at ANY time, simply cause we ain't a company which plans work shifts to cover every minute of the day.
I know it has been on all servers , BUT we are on lws for a reason, this server is different from others , if we needed a common server with common problems, we could have gone to any other server. we won't have bothered to start topics to consume ours and yours valuable time.
Also, if this problem has never been solved in the past , it doesn't mean there is no solution or no one can do anything.  Changes can only be made when you do an effort for them. :)

Most of the time Aryan is online  ::),
If you need help then ask him and also you both live in india.
I/We are not here pointing fingures at admins. we just want to figure out a solution.
And as of aryan, he gives much time to the game :), but it is not sufficient(Not that i'm blaming him). Also, whenevr he is there we DO ask him :)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 12:58:46 PM by Mr.DehshaT »