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Change The Prices Back!
« on: March 08, 2016, 05:09:33 AM »
The weapon prices are more expensive.
Special shop has been updated and its more expensive.
15 mil Death Explosion.
4.5 mil spawn armor, each spawn 50,000$.
Chainsaw gone forevar.
5 Million bank account.

nope.avi

I suggest that players should have a 6 - 7 mil account now that this server increased its prices.
Donators 10-12.

Also, in trucking missions, the Payment should not be 100k it should be 200 - 300k. Now that the servers expensive
Standing in the pirate ship should give more money.

Simple as that.

P.S- Change the weapon prices back please.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 05:29:24 AM by Blood_Burner »


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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 06:07:05 AM »
Keep in mind that prices were too cheap. I could easily buy 'hop hop' and 'death explosion' and then get my money back by racing. Now special shop is something that not everyone can afford.

Good at racing? You can beat best time to get 5m, 2nd best time and get 3m. 15m for death explosion? IT IS NIGHTMARE MAN. You can just shoot guy before death and he will be killed because of explosions.

Although we need chainsaw back, it was really fun to chop guys with it. :>
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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 07:26:55 AM »
10-12M are not enough? ??? ???
so I have been surprised :( i slap my brother and i make the ban appeal :(

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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 09:00:25 AM »
At least bring the chainsaw back, it was a nice feature. Also change the bank of normal players
from 5 mil to 7-8 mil adn donators 11-13mil. Or something like that.


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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 10:28:39 AM »
OK Spitty,thanks for thinking again and trying to change ^_^ but i wrote this essay before your post :P I'll just post it.
IMO-
*Bank limits should be extended (regular-7m,donator-10m)
*Taxes for racing,thats something really  unfair to newbies.I remember,my first thing in LW was race,If that would've cost me -24500 in my bank. trust me,i wouldn't be here now.
*** Special Shop-
*Hidden Nametag-also hides hp.I don't think its ok for a DM server.
*Hidden Blip- Thats camouflages job?!Which also costs money that's fair enough.
***Properties
*Only 5 props,fair enough.
*Gets sold when u go afk or pause.Also fair,but there should be a time like,if afk for 3 or 5 mins,props will be sold.Coz we fairly have the right to go afk for any emergency irl.
P.S.-my props got sold,when i died bcoz of my lag.maybe some glitch caused it.(twice)
***Weapon Price-
*Got increased,thats good for players to crave for money and such.More fight in the streets.
*The price might be too much?100k was enough to buy spawn weapons for DMers,but now they need atleast 500k for the ammo to fight in regular fights.Which players(regular) buy everytime they come ingame.Maybe prices should be in a limit,where players can buy the ammo they need in 200-300k.Or maybe prices should be restored like before,and it will cost in every spawn. Like,1/5 of the price they bought ammo with?
*Newbies will have a hard time to buy weapons,which might cause them to leave.
***Giving Money-
*"You need to be near the person to give money"???
That's a RP feature,i assume. :/

Everyone will have to only play for money.Thats not LW style :( Street fights might also decrease and people will start racing and trucking more.LW will be all about money then :(

All above are just some suggestions.

Although i really appreciate Nightmare for working hard and making all the changes.You did a good job bro! :D

« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 10:32:19 AM by Myle »

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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 11:15:35 AM »
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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2016, 01:21:05 PM »
OK Spitty,thanks for thinking again and trying to change ^_^ but i wrote this essay before your post :P I'll just post it.
IMO-
*Bank limits should be extended (regular-7m,donator-10m)
*Taxes for racing,thats something really  unfair to newbies.I remember,my first thing in LW was race,If that would've cost me -24500 in my bank. trust me,i wouldn't be here now.
*** Special Shop-
*Hidden Nametag-also hides hp.I don't think its ok for a DM server.
*Hidden Blip- Thats camouflages job?!Which also costs money that's fair enough.
***Properties
*Only 5 props,fair enough.
*Gets sold when u go afk or pause.Also fair,but there should be a time like,if afk for 3 or 5 mins,props will be sold.Coz we fairly have the right to go afk for any emergency irl.
P.S.-my props got sold,when i died bcoz of my lag.maybe some glitch caused it.(twice)
***Weapon Price-
*Got increased,thats good for players to crave for money and such.More fight in the streets.
*The price might be too much?100k was enough to buy spawn weapons for DMers,but now they need atleast 500k for the ammo to fight in regular fights.Which players(regular) buy everytime they come ingame.Maybe prices should be in a limit,where players can buy the ammo they need in 200-300k.Or maybe prices should be restored like before,and it will cost in every spawn. Like,1/5 of the price they bought ammo with?
*Newbies will have a hard time to buy weapons,which might cause them to leave.
***Giving Money-
*"You need to be near the person to give money"???
That's a RP feature,i assume. :/

Everyone will have to only play for money.Thats not LW style :( Street fights might also decrease and people will start racing and trucking more.LW will be all about money then :(

All above are just some suggestions.

Although i really appreciate Nightmare for working hard and making all the changes.You did a good job bro! :D

Hi everyone, i wanna drop a comment here also.
I see how all the expenses went so high, Myle has explained above a lot.
The thing is now everything is expensive Only thing i have to say We come to LW to have some fun guys not to get Stress, this is a game not a job. we are players who already tired from Jobs/studies/personal things. And this will worth if the Admins or Server actually earning some money so it can help the server maintenance and somethings. We both know you guys not earning anything from increasing the prize of the items and weapons. I hope you guys come with a plan to help the server for real, like putting 6 month Donor packages so players will keep donating every 6 month. Chainsaw is gone, i don't see any point of removing that cool feature. actually what i see is in short period of time LW's nice style is changing. i also appreciate Nightmare's work but the thing is this is not the best tbh i miss the old LW Style. 
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 02:47:00 PM by =_Captain_= »
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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2016, 01:55:11 PM »
I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.

I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.

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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2016, 02:14:52 PM »
I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.

I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.

I was right, i saw you looking at my comment for like 30 minutes, then i thought oh its jayce looking at my comments again, cause i knew you're gonna put a comment against me as always. I always see your comment against my point. I have seen this in forum and server both. Hope to see your hated comments below of my future comments also, btw you're the best hater i ever had. Cya
(others have comment also about this topic but i can see you only reply your hated comment to my comment, so i will expect your Negative/hated/Disagreeing comment below what ever i comment  even its a good or bad or whatever)
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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2016, 02:27:26 PM »
well as there isnt any official topic about the new updates, ill give my 2 cents here aswell.

i mostly agree with myle and edward.

to point out, with totally being serious i admit im a lazy person and some of these new updates affect my confort-zone which leads me here...

long story short - i feel like i have to play this game in a role-playing style to get money for my everyday regular playing style. which means i have to be role-playing every time i join/leave the server and this isnt really my cup of tea and sadly it makes me join other servers more and more and join lw less and less...


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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 02:42:45 PM »
Higher wep prices are already implemented? Damn, didn't get to see it yesterday night.

About the replies above, I would just say a simple 'no'. What staff has been working on is to make players more active while spending time on the server. Everything they've been planning to do would most likely fall in the water and plans themselves would disappear like they were never brought to attention in the first place at all.

Current bank limit is more than enough for anyone to survive the current "LW crisis", even for your newbies. I can number you just 2 features that earning money from is damn easy: races and properties. I don't even have to mention that 90% of active community uses those two to make quick money. Trucking missions, killing people, gambling, event made money and such are alternatives being used a lot less than the first two features i mentioned and only when you're bored, if your bank is full and the chances of losing it does not matter to you as you planned to do some uncommon stuff with it (money), organising more events, tunning cars and the last thing I can think of is of course earning to fullfill your bank account.
You may also be wondering why i don't want bank limits to be raised. In the past, normal members (regulars) had bigger banks, and so did the donators (R: 7, D:10). Some staff members have stated that the old system(gamemode) worked and was maily coded for a server handling 100-200 players on daily basis and because the server was literally flooded with money, fights kept going on and on over the treasure and who'll be the happy owner of a full bank, who'll become rich etc. Later on when the server population surprisingly fast went down to the bottom of the sea, nothing could ever work normally again, no fights, no players, no actual activity, just some noobs roaming every now and then a few regulars and a possible staff member and that's it. Unfortunately we don't get to see this again nowadays and that's exactly why I disagreed with you, hopefully you understand.

Regarding the new bomb shop, it's not necessarily required from you to buy it everytime you join LWs, why making a big deal out of it then? It's indeed an additional feature that not everyone can afford to have, that's why it's special, and because you must work your lazy ass off to own any of these.

The money earned by trucking missions feature depends on the distance and the time it takes you to complete it successfully. So it depends directly on you whether or not you're gonna make some huge amount of money there. Besides, it's also made for fun purposes.

Chainsaw will be back, nothing will be taken away without letting anyone know so don't panic.

There are changes on the work, this goes step by step. It wont stay just like this, there will be more tweaks in the income/outcome and banks.

Same with the special shop. It was rebuilt, some of the features are missing but they will be back soon.

Since i got to take a look at the replies that were written before i could finish this, i feel like we're terrorising people and not necessarily helping the server, just not entirely sure why. Because no changes were made for full 3 years and everybody became lazy? I could only write a few assumptions and possibilities, but those are not facts which is why i won't.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 02:50:44 PM by run1 »

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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 02:58:22 PM »
But bring the chain saw back please.
I agree with all the above.


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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2016, 03:02:22 PM »
i really can't understand all of these complaints: last time i joined i earned something around 1,5 millions in 10 minutes...
Maybe the system as Spit said needs an adjustment which will be made, but if everytime we change the system, someone comes asking to increase the bank limit, then all the efforts made to make people spend their money would be useless

The only things i got doubts about, are those items which can't be bought even using all the cash you can store in bank..that means you'd need to empty at least 2 of your accounts' banks (if you have) and having to entrust that money to someone which should keep the money until u come back with the other account, kinda boring
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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2016, 03:20:29 PM »
I am confused why are you complaining about something which is much better than before? There is fun collecting in-game money now unlike before, before: we could buy hop-hop, death explosion, chainsaw and filling our banks just by winning a race. However I want to mention that economy was messed up before this update, at least, this update brought to us something we can do instead of fighting. Instead of crying just ask to increase the bank limit that allows us to store more cash. Whether you like it or not, just adapt with it.

I ain't provoking anyone so please think twice before quoting my post and post bullshit.

Yes i agree.The economy was messed up and needed a change.The updates and the staffs attention to the economy is appreciable.But somethings might be too much.I'm not saying to bring back the whole system,but just bring it to a fair condition.





Higher wep prices are already implemented? Damn, didn't get to see it yesterday night.

About the replies above, I would just say a simple 'no'. What staff has been working on is to make players more active while spending time on the server. Everything they've been planning to do would most likely fall in the water and plans themselves would disappear like they were never brought to attention in the first place at all.

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Since i got to take a look at the replies that were written before i could finish this, i feel like we're terrorising people and not necessarily helping the server, just not entirely sure why. Because no changes were made for full 3 years and everybody became lazy? I could only write a few assumptions and possibilities, but those are not facts which is why i won't.

Thats why we said,we appreciate the work Nightmare and you guys are doing.The updates are much appreciated.But the thing is,old days won't come back.No matter how much you guys try to make it like before.Most of the players have moved on with new games and etc. SA-MP players are less than before.So,if you think bringing back everything to the way it was will bring back players,then I'm sorry but you are wrong.The players gone won't come back as regular and give hours in LW.They have moved on.If you really want players,then the system should be newbie friendly.And the current one isn't (from my point of view).The updates are pretty good but somethings should be changed.
P.S.- We are not criticizing the staff.




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Re: Change The Prices Back!
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2016, 03:52:40 PM »
I mentioned the old system as an example of how it used to be and why it can't work normally anymore, I didn't say we should throw away all the work staff and devs have done. Bank limit is something i tried to put the attention to since the creator of this topic complained about the limit being too low and then i explained why staff decided to lower it years ago. It's not necessarily needed to raise it as there's enough space for the earnings on the server.

Read Quick's reply if nothing else could convince you that earning money is way too easy to even mention, just like the bank limit being absolutely fine as it is.

Glad that people understood my post.