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Title: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 23, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
Hai
i just want your advices for me that may helps me to have good PC as i got no idea about that staff and fuck the saleman!
i want that PC can run the new games without any problems!
go ahead ppl 
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: NiGHTM4RE on January 23, 2011, 10:58:51 PM
This PC (http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-area51-alx/pd?refid=alienware-area-51-alx&~ck=mn) :)
If you're rich.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 23, 2011, 11:20:36 PM
(A) i heard alieanwear isnt that good. (cus u really need the fastest CPU you can buy overclocked?)

(B) go on irc and ask people there.

(C) my own personal experience now (which many people will disagree with but there we go)
I got a new pc (a few weeks ago) before i brought anything i asked on irc, and about 6 people from various stores to get a computer which can run games (i can run gta:iv on higest levels and it still doesnt eat up my cpu nor gfx card ram)

So i would suggest you do the same.

A great tip (which someone gave me) was to do this "buy a good "Family pc" (one with the cpu, ram, os and HD you want) for X amount. Buy a good PSU, GFX card and Case - and you have a nice computer.

Also, be aware of CPU's - speed isnt a massive issue any more - L3 and L2 caches are better - more MB on L3/L2 the better the CPU.

CPU's - remember if you go for intel - i7/i5 can both be quad or duel core. AMD are slightly easier X2 - duel, X4 = quad X6 = Hex,

Hmmm what else - Nvidia release the 500 series in a month (or so ive been told) and the 470 is fantastic (except heat issues) so i would suggest a 470/480 or a 500 series (i belive the 470gtx is the cheapest out of them, but its plenty powerful)

Try to get 64X OS (win 7 64) with a cpu which can handle 64bit applications and then get about 6gb ram. Try to get DDR3 Ram as its the newest and fastest.

Hard drives - try to get a decent one with good speeds (ask someone else on this lol)
If you are going to play lots of games, get a big HD (at least 500gb).

PSU - get a good psu, and i would suggest if you need 550W to power gfx card/mobo get about 600-650W for extra power, in case u want to add more later on, or upgrade.

Do not skimp on price. I did once, came back and bit me on the ass. So on this computer i did not. I tried to get as much as i could for my money.

hmmm...i think that is all. IMO DO NOT buy a "gamers pc". I actually got my computer, which is BETTER than a "gamer pc" the store was selling, for 300£ less. And the gfx card and case are better!!

Do not do what i have seen people do "buy two "good" gfx cards and use sli. It wont prodcue as much dedicated video ram as one great gfx card. Go over board on things, and you will be much happier.

Now if you really want i can post the specs of my pc, as i can run gta:iv on max, nfs:hp, and a few other games (i do not play many games atm...waiting for some to come out!)

Other than that as i say use IRC (dugi/carol/benny are good at this, esp dugi and cpus!)
Ask in store, and ummm....i think that is all.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: tony_ab on January 24, 2011, 12:58:47 PM
you wrote many thingies here ACE, but u didnt tell us your specs :D (you were mentioning ur PC alot, tell us whats it made of  xD)
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Alvar on January 24, 2011, 01:32:12 PM
What's the prize range you're looking at, give me the range so I could search you something decent from an Estonian forum.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on January 24, 2011, 02:11:35 PM
My PC specs are 

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black edition clocked at 3,2 Ghz (black edition means u can overclock it.
Motherboard: MSI 870A-G54
Graphics card: Powercolor PCS+ HD5870 1GB GDDR5
RAM: Kingston ValueRam DDR3 1333 2GB CL9 (got 2 banks so 4 gig in total)
Harddrive: Samsung HD F3 500gig16 mb Sata II (get a Sata III cuz their newer and faster)
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA650 (650 watts, its a little more than needed but i wanted to have a buffer 550 would have been good enough)
PC Case: Antec Three Hundred.

Bought this for 980 euro in total at that time. I would buy more Ram but 4 gig is sufficient

But for that same budget you could buy the same system as ACE got and have a little extra juice in ur system. Seeing as mine is now already bout 6 months old. Prices went down etc etc. If u need more questions just ask :)

Greets LtgBenny_NL aka WildStyleZx89
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 24, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1035T (yes, im a hex core whore)
Mobo (not the best i know, but works for me) H-Alpinia-RS780L-uATX (Alpinia)
Gfx Card: Geforce GTX 470 Zotac (so it can be over-clocked)
RAM: 6GB DDR-3 (wont tell me producer)
HD: ITB SATA (its either 2 or 3 but i cant find out much about it)
PSU: Corsair 800W gamers PSU (this is a LOT more then i needed. 550 was the min so its a huge buffer, but it was on sale and i wanted the POWER!!! lol)
Case: http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15) (yes i know the name sucks but the case is awsome!)
OS: Win 7 64x
Also, my computer came with a blueray player, built in tv tuner and wireless card. All in this cost just over £1000. But soooo worth it.

I got this by buying a computer (with the cpu, hd, ram, ect), then i brought the case, psu and gfx card. Then swapped a few things over and boom, a nice pc.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 24, 2011, 05:30:07 PM
What's the prize range you're looking at, give me the range so I could search you something decent from an Estonian forum.
im looking for a good PC and doesnt matter how much it'll coast.

Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 24, 2011, 05:38:10 PM
define good lol

hmmm well if cost isnt an issue (no max limit im guessing) then u could wait a month or two,
 get an Core i7-980X (1000$)

a gtx 580 (prob about 500-700$
sata III HD, good mobo (dont ask me) DDR 3 RAM (6-8gb) WIN7 64X OS, 800W PSU (should be enough, but i would check) and a DVD/rw/Blueray Drive, - would only cost about 2000-3000$. lol

Seriously if you have no maximum limit, i would get that cpu wait a month or two and get a 580gtx...just me though - others will probably disagree
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 24, 2011, 05:50:45 PM
define good lol

hmmm well if cost isnt an issue (no max limit im guessing) then u could wait a month or two,
 get an Core i7-980X (1000$)

a gtx 580 (prob about 500-700$
sata III HD, good mobo (dont ask me) DDR 3 RAM (6-8gb) WIN7 64X OS, 800W PSU (should be enough, but i would check) and a DVD/rw/Blueray Drive, - would only cost about 2000-3000$. lol

Seriously if you have no maximum limit, i would get that cpu wait a month or two and get a 580gtx...just me though - others will probably disagree
2000-3000$ is not that much here in israel to own a pc like u menioned .. and i already got that cash :P .. now if that pc is being released in your county in a month i doubt that it will be here in a year at least !!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Alvar on January 24, 2011, 06:33:34 PM
I don't think it's worth spending so much on a PC.

Something decent I found, you should have those parts in your country aswell I assume.

Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K/ Quad Core/ 8 Threads/ 3.40 GHz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 32 nm / LGA1155 / Sandy Bridge / Unlocked -287.00 €
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master cooler HYPER 212 PLUS - 29.80 €
Motherboard: GIGA-BYTE GA-P67A-UD3, P67, S1155, ATX - 117.05 €
RAM: APACER MEMORY DIMM 4GB PC10600 DDR3/KIT2 DL.04GAJ.F9EK2 APACER *2 - 73.60 €
GFX: XFX HD-695A-CNFC, HD6950, 2GB, GDDR5, 256bit, PCIE16 - 271.40 €
Harddrive: WD1002FAEX, CAVIAR BLACK, 1TB, 3.5", SATA3, 7.2K, 64MB - 76.70 €
DVD: SAMSUNG SH-S223C/BEBE DVD-RW/ 22x DVD+R/ SATA/ Black/ Bare type - 14.40 €
PSU: SeaSonic M12II-620 Bronze - 85.50 €
Case: THERMALTAKE V3 MID TOWER BLACK VL80001W2Z - 43.85 €
SSD: CORSAIR FORCE 90GB 2.5" SSD CSSD-F90GB2-BRKT - 180.70 €

1180€, those are the prices we have here, also putting it together costs like 20€. Roughly 1200€ and you have a PC that will last for a long time. And definitely performance wise better than AMD case. It could cost some more in your country, but with your budget, it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 24, 2011, 07:00:36 PM
I don't think it's worth spending so much on a PC.

Something decent I found, you should have those parts in your country aswell I assume.

Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K/ Quad Core/ 8 Threads/ 3.40 GHz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 32 nm / LGA1155 / Sandy Bridge / Unlocked -287.00 €
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master cooler HYPER 212 PLUS - 29.80 €
Motherboard: GIGA-BYTE GA-P67A-UD3, P67, S1155, ATX - 117.05 €
RAM: APACER MEMORY DIMM 4GB PC10600 DDR3/KIT2 DL.04GAJ.F9EK2 APACER *2 - 73.60 €
GFX: XFX HD-695A-CNFC, HD6950, 2GB, GDDR5, 256bit, PCIE16 - 271.40 €
Harddrive: WD1002FAEX, CAVIAR BLACK, 1TB, 3.5", SATA3, 7.2K, 64MB - 76.70 €
DVD: SAMSUNG SH-S223C/BEBE DVD-RW/ 22x DVD+R/ SATA/ Black/ Bare type - 14.40 €
PSU: SeaSonic M12II-620 Bronze - 85.50 €
Case: THERMALTAKE V3 MID TOWER BLACK VL80001W2Z - 43.85 €
SSD: CORSAIR FORCE 90GB 2.5" SSD CSSD-F90GB2-BRKT - 180.70 €

1180€, those are the prices we have here, also putting it together costs like 20€. Roughly 1200€ and you have a PC that will last for a long time. And definitely performance wise better than AMD case. It could cost some more in your country, but with your budget, it shouldn't be a problem.
i copied that specifications and gonna ask the supporter about it soon
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 24, 2011, 07:25:49 PM
[quote author=â– â–  T-Pain â– â–  link=topic=14964.msg144313#msg144313
2000-3000$ is not that much here in israel to own a pc like u menioned .. and i already got that cash :P .. now if that pc is being released in your county in a month i doubt that it will be here in a year at least !!
[/quote]

then im guessing with conversion rates/import rates rise the cost....

and would still go for hex-core...seems smarter imo. Why have 4 if you can afford 6? most games only use duel-quad so 2 cores to run background tasks.... but that my opinion :D

Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 24, 2011, 07:38:01 PM

[/quote]


and would still go for hex-core...seems smarter imo. Why have 4 if you can afford 6? most games only use duel-quad so 2 cores to run background tasks.... but that my opinion :D



what i can have hex-core in alvar's list insteat
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 24, 2011, 08:05:09 PM
buying a PC for 4.000 € is plain stupid unless you really need it for something serious (like work..).

just buy something for 1.000 € and when there is a game that you cant play in max graphics anymore (like in 3-4 years) then buy a new one for 1.000 €. like this you will be able to play any games you want for 10-15 years for 4.000 €. if you buy a monster PC for 4.000 € now it may be able to run any games in the next ~6 years and then its bullshit..

this 4.000 € monsters have an awful cost effectiveness and use up LOTS AND LOTS of energy. you have to calculate that this things might need a 1.500 W. PSU.... thats like a fucking oven.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on January 24, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Like he said buying a PC for around 2000 or 3000 is pretty normal in his country. So if he wants to spend that let him.

Also Alvar i would wait with the HD6950 till most bugs are figured out and more variants are releast for it by other manufacturers like MSI or powercolor or Sapphire or something those are usually a bit cheaper than XFX but thats just my experience here.

For a CPU like that i would rather use a Cooler Master V8 or V10 even. Costs about 20 euro or 40 euro more but better cooling anyway. The V10 even cools the RAM banks and other parts of the Mobo that generate heat. Also if your goin with intel CPUs go with Nvidia cards, and AMD cpus with ATI cards (HD6950, HD5870 etc etc) ATI and AMD usually work better together since ATI took over AMD or AMD took over ATI dont know who took who over but those drivers are better compatible.

I personally would go for AMD typ of PC simply cuz i struggled alot with my old Intel crap pc. Plus the endless battle of them fanboys sayin Intel is better than AMD or AMD is better than intel is bullshit. They are pretty much equal these days.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 24, 2011, 10:52:55 PM
I personally would go for AMD typ of PC simply cuz i struggled alot with my old Intel crap pc. Plus the endless battle of them fanboys sayin Intel is better than AMD or AMD is better than intel is bullshit. They are pretty much equal these days.

agreed, but intel hex core does/supposedly does have bigger L3 caches  (which is better now) so only difference, but intel are a lot more then amd...sayin that i have amd and not once have i thought "damn i need this to be faster".

would disagree with intel +nvidia - i use amd and nvidia and it works nicely -seems compatible. Only prob ive had is my mobo audio going out, because i used a gtx graphics hd/w audio cable to my hd tv, and its just gone a bit odd. But not a huge issue atm so :D
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on January 25, 2011, 02:40:10 AM
guess its everyones got his own experiences with certain brands but thats why we doin this topic right figuring out whats best for T-Pain
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 25, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
guess its everyones got his own experiences with certain brands but thats why we doin this topic right figuring out whats best for T-Pain

Indeed :D
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 25, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
i never even tried any intel thingy. AMD always was enough for me.

amd:
- hotter than intels
- faster @ games than intels from same price range
- better with ATI graphics cards
- cheap motherboards
- better low and mid end CPUs, worse highend CPUs (there are no AMDs for 300€ +)

intel:
- cooler than amds (better to overclock)
- faster @ video rendering and general calculation speed (but still slower with games ;))
- better with nvidia graphics cards
- expensive motherboards
- worse low and mid end CPUs, better highend CPUs (stuff up to 1.000€)

both AMD and ATI have far better cost efficiency thats why i would always buy AMD + ATI.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 25, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
i never even tried any intel thingy. AMD always was enough for me.

amd:
- hotter than intels

lossing ground now on that - amds are startin to run about the same as intels.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: SUPERBAD on January 25, 2011, 02:20:09 PM
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1035T (yes, im a hex core whore)
Mobo (not the best i know, but works for me) H-Alpinia-RS780L-uATX (Alpinia)
Gfx Card: Geforce GTX 470 Zotac (so it can be over-clocked)
RAM: 6GB DDR-3 (wont tell me producer)
HD: ITB SATA (its either 2 or 3 but i cant find out much about it)
PSU: Corsair 800W gamers PSU (this is a LOT more then i needed. 550 was the min so its a huge buffer, but it was on sale and i wanted the POWER!!! lol)
Case: http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15) (yes i know the name sucks but the case is awsome!)
OS: Win 7 64x
Also, my computer came with a blueray player, built in tv tuner and wireless card. All in this cost just over £1000. But soooo worth it.

I got this by buying a computer (with the cpu, hd, ram, ect), then i brought the case, psu and gfx card. Then swapped a few things over and boom, a nice pc.

sounds nice, I really like the psu! u wont regret that!

but isnt it loud?

in what resolution do you play gtaiv?



btw: does anyone got an idea how i could connect on a cheap way a new gfx card with my super old tv made of wood? :o
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 25, 2011, 02:35:03 PM

sounds nice, I really like the psu! u wont regret that!

but isnt it loud?

in what resolution do you play gtaiv?

btw: does anyone got an idea how i could connect on a cheap way a new gfx card with my super old tv made of wood? :o

not as loud as you would think lol

resolution is hd tv - ummm think its 1280X720 720p (can go higher, but then its hard to see much) Played it on a 22"HD tv on max res as well lol

Hmm about the wooden tv issue - could try
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002NPZSSO/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001EL4ZM8&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0MRC7GJFB6HZ5YDPT0EY (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002NPZSSO/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001EL4ZM8&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0MRC7GJFB6HZ5YDPT0EY)

You could connect that to a VCR, to the tv and tune in the pc :D
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 25, 2011, 03:10:54 PM
superbad afaik you need a converter for that. a fucking cable wont do.

this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-Video-SVIDEO-Notebook-Converter/dp/B0017ODLJU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1295968187&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-Video-SVIDEO-Notebook-Converter/dp/B0017ODLJU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1295968187&sr=1-2)

and ACE bitch.. AMD sure gets hotter than intel! :)
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]PvtBenny on January 25, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
Does your TV have a cable like this superbad ?
http://www.cables4all.co.uk/ekmps/shops/cables4all/images/premium-male-to-female-tv-aerial-lead-2-metres-166-p.jpg (http://www.cables4all.co.uk/ekmps/shops/cables4all/images/premium-male-to-female-tv-aerial-lead-2-metres-166-p.jpg)

If yes then heres the following.

You would need a converter like bikedriver pointed out.
You need a adapter in your TV antenna cable like this one. it has the yellow red white connectors and the tv antenna connector on the back.
http://www.vottle.com/uploaded_images//1a16813dce7d6cf5d8cdd169e53ae715.jpg (http://www.vottle.com/uploaded_images//1a16813dce7d6cf5d8cdd169e53ae715.jpg)

You could go USB but you can also go for VGA (the blue monitor connector) U just need a cable that links to the white yellow red cable. Like this one for example:
http://bwindia.net/bwfiles/images/Cable%20Vardhman%20VGA%2015%20Pin%20Male%20to%20RCA.jpg (http://bwindia.net/bwfiles/images/Cable%20Vardhman%20VGA%2015%20Pin%20Male%20to%20RCA.jpg)

The reason i know this is cuz i still have a old NES (very first nintendo) And ive got that hooked up to my newer TV Pretty much works the same for PC.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 28, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
well, i went to the store today and asked the sale man about this
I don't think it's worth spending so much on a PC.

Something decent I found, you should have those parts in your country aswell I assume.

Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K/ Quad Core/ 8 Threads/ 3.40 GHz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 32 nm / LGA1155 / Sandy Bridge / Unlocked -287.00 €
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master cooler HYPER 212 PLUS - 29.80 €
Motherboard: GIGA-BYTE GA-P67A-UD3, P67, S1155, ATX - 117.05 €
RAM: APACER MEMORY DIMM 4GB PC10600 DDR3/KIT2 DL.04GAJ.F9EK2 APACER *2 - 73.60 €
GFX: XFX HD-695A-CNFC, HD6950, 2GB, GDDR5, 256bit, PCIE16 - 271.40 €
Harddrive: WD1002FAEX, CAVIAR BLACK, 1TB, 3.5", SATA3, 7.2K, 64MB - 76.70 €
DVD: SAMSUNG SH-S223C/BEBE DVD-RW/ 22x DVD+R/ SATA/ Black/ Bare type - 14.40 €
PSU: SeaSonic M12II-620 Bronze - 85.50 €
Case: THERMALTAKE V3 MID TOWER BLACK VL80001W2Z - 43.85 €
SSD: CORSAIR FORCE 90GB 2.5" SSD CSSD-F90GB2-BRKT - 180.70 €

1180€, those are the prices we have here, also putting it together costs like 20€. Roughly 1200€ and you have a PC that will last for a long time. And definitely performance wise better than AMD case. It could cost some more in your country, but with your budget, it shouldn't be a problem.
he said that i7 is kinda hard to own it for personal home pc its being used on companyes and hightech work and it will cost me 2000$ so im not getting this one

also
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1035T (yes, im a hex core whore)
Mobo (not the best i know, but works for me) H-Alpinia-RS780L-uATX (Alpinia)
Gfx Card: Geforce GTX 470 Zotac (so it can be over-clocked)
RAM: 6GB DDR-3 (wont tell me producer)
HD: ITB SATA (its either 2 or 3 but i cant find out much about it)
PSU: Corsair 800W gamers PSU (this is a LOT more then i needed. 550 was the min so its a huge buffer, but it was on sale and i wanted the POWER!!! lol)
Case: http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15) (yes i know the name sucks but the case is awsome!)
OS: Win 7 64x
Also, my computer came with a blueray player, built in tv tuner and wireless card. All in this cost just over £1000. But soooo worth it.

I got this by buying a computer (with the cpu, hd, ram, ect), then i brought the case, psu and gfx card. Then swapped a few things over and boom, a nice pc.
he said that AMD products are not so used in israel AMD used on europe much than intel and its not a bad pc if im going to own it but i'm still going for intel
so i'm gonna own this one he told me

Processor: Intel Core daul 5700
ram: 2GB ddr3
motherboard:armteless ddr3
GFX: Geforce 1G

it will cost me 1000$
wut u say?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 28, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
well, i went to the store today and asked the sale man about this
I don't think it's worth spending so much on a PC.

Something decent I found, you should have those parts in your country aswell I assume.

Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K/ Quad Core/ 8 Threads/ 3.40 GHz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 32 nm / LGA1155 / Sandy Bridge / Unlocked -287.00 €
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master cooler HYPER 212 PLUS - 29.80 €
Motherboard: GIGA-BYTE GA-P67A-UD3, P67, S1155, ATX - 117.05 €
RAM: APACER MEMORY DIMM 4GB PC10600 DDR3/KIT2 DL.04GAJ.F9EK2 APACER *2 - 73.60 €
GFX: XFX HD-695A-CNFC, HD6950, 2GB, GDDR5, 256bit, PCIE16 - 271.40 €
Harddrive: WD1002FAEX, CAVIAR BLACK, 1TB, 3.5", SATA3, 7.2K, 64MB - 76.70 €
DVD: SAMSUNG SH-S223C/BEBE DVD-RW/ 22x DVD+R/ SATA/ Black/ Bare type - 14.40 €
PSU: SeaSonic M12II-620 Bronze - 85.50 €
Case: THERMALTAKE V3 MID TOWER BLACK VL80001W2Z - 43.85 €
SSD: CORSAIR FORCE 90GB 2.5" SSD CSSD-F90GB2-BRKT - 180.70 €

1180€, those are the prices we have here, also putting it together costs like 20€. Roughly 1200€ and you have a PC that will last for a long time. And definitely performance wise better than AMD case. It could cost some more in your country, but with your budget, it shouldn't be a problem.
he said that i7 is kinda hard to own it for personal home pc its being used on companyes and hightech work and it will cost me 2000$ so im not getting this one

also
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1035T (yes, im a hex core whore)
Mobo (not the best i know, but works for me) H-Alpinia-RS780L-uATX (Alpinia)
Gfx Card: Geforce GTX 470 Zotac (so it can be over-clocked)
RAM: 6GB DDR-3 (wont tell me producer)
HD: ITB SATA (its either 2 or 3 but i cant find out much about it)
PSU: Corsair 800W gamers PSU (this is a LOT more then i needed. 550 was the min so its a huge buffer, but it was on sale and i wanted the POWER!!! lol)
Case: http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/jet-turbine-atx-pc-case-48124?c=so&u=strat15) (yes i know the name sucks but the case is awsome!)
OS: Win 7 64x
Also, my computer came with a blueray player, built in tv tuner and wireless card. All in this cost just over £1000. But soooo worth it.

I got this by buying a computer (with the cpu, hd, ram, ect), then i brought the case, psu and gfx card. Then swapped a few things over and boom, a nice pc.
he said that AMD products are not so used in israel AMD used on europe much than intel and its not a bad pc if im going to own it but i'm still going for intel
so i'm gonna own this one he told me

Processor: Intel Core daul 5700
ram: 2GB ddr3
motherboard:armteless ddr3
GFX: Geforce 1G

it will cost me 1000$
wut u say?

go to other saleman.

$2.000 for that CPU? wtf? cant you just fucking import the parts?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 28, 2011, 09:28:17 PM
its intel i7 CPU is it too much for it? he told me thats the newest and the best he can sell so it has to be expinsive
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 28, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
it costs about $400 here so YES $2.000 is fucking insane

the PC that he wants to sell you for $1.000 is fucking crap. kill that fucking bitch. that pc is worth about $300-400 in germany.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [V]ACE on January 28, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
depends which I7 suppose - if its Hex i7 with the l3 and l2 buffers (which are the biggest atm) then its going to be expensive. A problem is (that i can see) no computer game (and most people, except possible computer programmers) need that much speed currently. CPU's (and ocmputer technology) in general will progress faster and so by the time people need a HEX i7 with big l3/l2 caches there will be new CPU's out, (hex/oct) with bigger L3/L2 caches.

Also, AMD whilst does not have as big l3/l2 caches then its Intel rival, seems to be fast enough, and works as well as intel, for less money.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Dominator on January 28, 2011, 11:06:21 PM
cheetos, cant you order pc parts somewhere and let a guy built the pc together?

and he cant ask 1000$ for that pc, thats ridiculous
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 29, 2011, 08:16:38 AM
cheetos, cant you order pc parts somewhere and let a guy built the pc together?

and he cant ask 1000$ for that pc, thats ridiculous
i can but im gonna buy a complete pc with all parts thats why im going to the store
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 29, 2011, 01:48:50 PM
then just import a complete PC? why dont you understand that this retard is trying to rip you off?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 29, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
then just import a complete PC? why dont you understand that this retard is trying to rip you off?
hes trying to sell me the best he has so why do u blame him !!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 29, 2011, 06:50:50 PM
are you stupid or something?

he is selling you everything for twice as much, thats why i blame him.

well whatever. go ahead and buy the overpriced bullshit.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Alvar on January 31, 2011, 12:36:42 PM
DO NOT BUY THAT SHITTY PC FOR 2000$, SERIOUSLY. Go to another shop or import the parts. That's crappy PC is not even worth 400$ mentioned before. Also, i7 is not that hard to get, atleast in here, i7 is extremely common and it doesn't cost that much.

Simply shoot yourself if you buy that PC...
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Dominator on January 31, 2011, 03:03:34 PM
then just import a complete PC? why dont you understand that this retard is trying to rip you off?
hes trying to sell me the best he has so why do u blame him !!
Lol, he ain't

Cant you order your parts via ebay?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: SUPERBAD on January 31, 2011, 03:59:41 PM
http://www.alternate.de (http://www.alternate.de)


you can find there a pc configurator and they do international shipping + they are verry serious

guess you find your parts for a fair price (u can get them a lil cheaper of course) + u save a lot of cash.



Also we could configure you a great pc for less than 2000 (including taxes and shipping) so you could just order it.

There are surely other great internet shops too, but this is one of the best in germany. + the service is good.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on January 31, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
yea alternate ftw ;)
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on January 31, 2011, 07:56:31 PM
well , im not going to own that PC as u told me its a shitty one so i'll try to import the parts  but i'll need some1 to build it for me o maybe if u show me how i'll try to make it myself
now how can i order the parts throught eBay!?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 01, 2011, 02:35:28 AM
why you want to use ebay now?

what will you do if the parts are broken? send them back over the half globe? what you do if you dont even have warranty?

just order the PC parts at some decent hardware site. they might build the PC for you too if you dont know how to do it yourself.

but if you decide to do it by yourself: its pretty easy and im sure that there are PLENTY of tutorials in the interwebz.

as superbad mentioned alternate.de is the best hardware shop from germany but i just checked and they DO NOT deliver to foreign countries :(


this took me a shitload of time to google :)

http://www.superbiiz.com/ (http://www.superbiiz.com/)
ratings for that store: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/eWiz (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/eWiz)

is the only hardware store i could find that offers international shipping
check it out!

if you need help to choose parts for your PC then just ask. im sure we can help you ;)
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on February 01, 2011, 05:07:48 PM
why you want to use ebay now?

what will you do if the parts are broken? send them back over the half globe? what you do if you dont even have warranty?

just order the PC parts at some decent hardware site. they might build the PC for you too if you dont know how to do it yourself.

but if you decide to do it by yourself: its pretty easy and im sure that there are PLENTY of tutorials in the interwebz.

as superbad mentioned alternate.de is the best hardware shop from germany but i just checked and they DO NOT deliver to foreign countries :(


this took me a shitload of time to google :)

http://www.superbiiz.com/ (http://www.superbiiz.com/)
ratings for that store: http://www.resellerratings.com/store/eWiz (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/eWiz)

is the only hardware store i could find that offers international shipping
check it out!

if you need help to choose parts for your PC then just ask. im sure we can help you ;)
thank u very much
now if this site is rly useful , im going to buy the pc as soon as possible
 i want u to tell me the important and the best parts should i own!!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 01, 2011, 08:56:35 PM
how much $ do you want to spend for the PC?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on February 02, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
1000-1500$ maximum
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: legolas3983 on February 02, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
1000-1500$ maximum
YOU ARE FUCKING GAMER ! :D:D
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 02, 2011, 02:42:23 PM
buy this:

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDE00ZFGBX&title=AMD-Phenom-II-X6-Six-Core-Processor-1100T-3-3GHz-AM3-Retail-Black-Edition (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDE00ZFGBX&title=AMD-Phenom-II-X6-Six-Core-Processor-1100T-3-3GHz-AM3-Retail-Black-Edition)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-890XAU3&title=GIGABYTE-GA-890XA-UD3-Socket-AM3-AMD-790X-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-890XAU3&title=GIGABYTE-GA-890XA-UD3-Socket-AM3-AMD-790X-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W6G1333CX9&title=Corsair-TR3X6G1333C9-DDR3-1333-6GB-3x2GB-Memory-Kit (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W6G1333CX9&title=Corsair-TR3X6G1333C9-DDR3-1333-6GB-3x2GB-Memory-Kit)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TP-750&title=Antec-TruePower-New-TP-750-750W-Power-Supply (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TP-750&title=Antec-TruePower-New-TP-750-750W-Power-Supply)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&title=Scythe-SCMG-2100-MUGEN-2-Rev-B-5-Heat-Pipes-CPU-Cooler (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&title=Scythe-SCMG-2100-MUGEN-2-Rev-B-5-Heat-Pipes-CPU-Cooler)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-695_2GB&title=PowerColor-ATI-Radeon-HD6950-2GB-DDR5-2DVI-HDMI-2x-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-Card (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-695_2GB&title=PowerColor-ATI-Radeon-HD6950-2GB-DDR5-2DVI-HDMI-2x-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-Card)

computer case:
http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=134&name=Desktop-Cases (http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=134&name=Desktop-Cases)

you better choose it yourself ;)
post which one you want so that i can check if its OK :P

need new hard drive?
this is one of the best:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-W12FAEX&title=Western-Digital-Caviar-Black-WD1002FAEX-1TB-SATA3-7200rpm-64MB-Hard-Drive (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-W12FAEX&title=Western-Digital-Caviar-Black-WD1002FAEX-1TB-SATA3-7200rpm-64MB-Hard-Drive)

do install OS to this hard drive if you order it.

random dvd reader/writer if you need it:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AD7260S-0B&title=Sony-AD-7260S-0B-24X-SATA-Internal-DVD-RW-Drive-Black-Bulk (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AD7260S-0B&title=Sony-AD-7260S-0B-24X-SATA-Internal-DVD-RW-Drive-Black-Bulk)

this will be exactly $1.100 + the price for the case.

do not forget to order the CPU fan. its NEEDED. i have exactly the same CPU fan and its totally 1337

this bitch is like 15 times faster than the thing that this fuckface sellman wanted to sell you for $1.000

if you need new screen/keyboard/mouse too then its smart to order that too.

if anybody got suggestions go ahead and post it :P
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: NiGHTM4RE on February 02, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
this bitch is like 15 times faster than the thing that this fuckface sellman wanted to sell you for $1.000
Lol BikeDriver, you make me laugh almost every time you post.(that's a good thing) :)
I might think about building a PC myself and using these parts you mentioned here.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 02, 2011, 07:52:26 PM
im so awesome because i watched this (click meh) (http://home.comcast.net/~benbrausen/Funny/Posting.swf) :-*



i will rape you in DA if you buy new PC:)))))))))
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on February 05, 2011, 11:15:05 AM
Processor Type:  Intel Core i7
Processor Speed (per Core):  3 GHz
Processor Configuration:  Quad Core
Primary Drive:  DVD+/-RW Memory (RAM):  8 GB
Hard Drive Capacity:  1,500 GB

i've searched this pc on ebay and it cost about 1000$
should i buy it ?
 
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 05, 2011, 01:03:31 PM
which i7?
which RAM?
which hard drive?
which graphics card?

etc.

ebay is a bad place to buy computers.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Alvar on February 07, 2011, 05:46:36 PM
which i7?
which RAM?
which hard drive?
which graphics card?

etc.

ebay is a bad place to buy computers.
This^

I don't know about ebay being a bad place to buy stuff tho, never bought anything from there.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on February 07, 2011, 06:34:12 PM
which i7?
which RAM?
which hard drive?
which graphics card?

etc.

ebay is a bad place to buy computers.
This^

I don't know about ebay being a bad place to buy stuff tho, never bought anything from there.
same here i dont rly trust those electronic shops!!
i can even get how can they bring it to my country , my town , my home !!! lol

well im waitting your suggestion to have the best pc can be bought with 1500$
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: BikeDriver on February 07, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
already told you, cheetos.

buy this:

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDE00ZFGBX&title=AMD-Phenom-II-X6-Six-Core-Processor-1100T-3-3GHz-AM3-Retail-Black-Edition (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HDE00ZFGBX&title=AMD-Phenom-II-X6-Six-Core-Processor-1100T-3-3GHz-AM3-Retail-Black-Edition)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-890XAU3&title=GIGABYTE-GA-890XA-UD3-Socket-AM3-AMD-790X-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-890XAU3&title=GIGABYTE-GA-890XA-UD3-Socket-AM3-AMD-790X-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W6G1333CX9&title=Corsair-TR3X6G1333C9-DDR3-1333-6GB-3x2GB-Memory-Kit (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=W6G1333CX9&title=Corsair-TR3X6G1333C9-DDR3-1333-6GB-3x2GB-Memory-Kit)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TP-750&title=Antec-TruePower-New-TP-750-750W-Power-Supply (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TP-750&title=Antec-TruePower-New-TP-750-750W-Power-Supply)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&title=Scythe-SCMG-2100-MUGEN-2-Rev-B-5-Heat-Pipes-CPU-Cooler (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&title=Scythe-SCMG-2100-MUGEN-2-Rev-B-5-Heat-Pipes-CPU-Cooler)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-695_2GB&title=PowerColor-ATI-Radeon-HD6950-2GB-DDR5-2DVI-HDMI-2x-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-Card (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-695_2GB&title=PowerColor-ATI-Radeon-HD6950-2GB-DDR5-2DVI-HDMI-2x-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-Video-Card)

computer case:
http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=134&name=Desktop-Cases (http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=134&name=Desktop-Cases)

you better choose it yourself ;)
post which one you want so that i can check if its OK :P

need new hard drive?
this is one of the best:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-W12FAEX&title=Western-Digital-Caviar-Black-WD1002FAEX-1TB-SATA3-7200rpm-64MB-Hard-Drive (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-W12FAEX&title=Western-Digital-Caviar-Black-WD1002FAEX-1TB-SATA3-7200rpm-64MB-Hard-Drive)

do install OS to this hard drive if you order it.

random dvd reader/writer if you need it:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AD7260S-0B&title=Sony-AD-7260S-0B-24X-SATA-Internal-DVD-RW-Drive-Black-Bulk (http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AD7260S-0B&title=Sony-AD-7260S-0B-24X-SATA-Internal-DVD-RW-Drive-Black-Bulk)

this will be exactly $1.100 + the price for the case.

do not forget to order the CPU fan. its NEEDED. i have exactly the same CPU fan and its totally 1337

this bitch is like 15 times faster than the thing that this fuckface sellman wanted to sell you for $1.000

if you need new screen/keyboard/mouse too then its smart to order that too.

if anybody got suggestions go ahead and post it :P
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on March 15, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
finally i bought a laptop which contains:
SAMSUNG
intel core i3
ddr3 4gb
500gb
ati radeon 1gb
what do u say?!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: AJP on March 15, 2011, 02:30:15 PM
finally i bought a laptop which contains:
SAMSUNG
intel core i3
ddr3 4gb
500gb
ati radeon 1gb
what do u say?!

how much did it cost
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on March 15, 2011, 02:36:21 PM
finally i bought a laptop which contains:
SAMSUNG
intel core i3
ddr3 4gb
500gb
ati radeon 1gb
what do u say?!
1000$ pool

how much did it cost
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Alvar on March 17, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
You are not really giving us any good specifications, but I'd say for 1000$ it was kind of normal (maybe a bit overpriced even) price for that LAPTOP. You'd get 4 times better PC for the same money tho.
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on May 02, 2011, 03:55:45 PM
bah did u even have $1500 to begin with? i smell shite

u just wasted £500..... btw

Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Devilboy665 on May 02, 2011, 04:08:25 PM
Well I suggest you to NOT buy ATIs and what Faraday got! ;D


Remember this?
(https://littlewhiteys.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi00.twenga.com%2Finformatica%2Fnetbook%2Facer-aspire-one-a150l-p_544008vb.png&hash=53629ffddc873a73519d9a55c217bafd9e663b39)
Iz mine! Payed 200Euros! ahheheuaha!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on May 02, 2011, 04:12:19 PM
Well I suggest you to NOT buy ATIs and what Faraday got! ;D

what? why?
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: Devilboy665 on May 02, 2011, 04:14:09 PM
Well I suggest you to NOT buy ATIs and what Faraday got! ;D
what? why?
http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,15500.0.html & http://forum.littlewhiteys.co.uk/index.php/topic,15524.0.html
Thats why I guess.. :)
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [Cheetos] on May 02, 2011, 05:36:01 PM
rizla  , that pc i bought with 500€ works rly fine with me!

you might be wrong , at least at this time!!!
Title: Re: Im buying new PC ! your suggestions
Post by: [eVo]Rizla on May 02, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
well im confused, i thought u said you'd bought a laptop