Updating my desktop pc!

[BikeDriver]

The CPU comes ontop of that and the other parts aswell, HDD, fans, DVD/Bluray drives and RAM.

no it doesnt.

the 400 watts recommended are apparently for the entire PC not for only the graphics card.

and you never sent me an official link where it says that the GTX 550 Ti only uses 300-400 watt.

it is uttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bullshit

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

The CPU comes ontop of that and the other parts aswell, HDD, fans, DVD/Bluray drives and RAM.

no it doesnt.

the 400 watts recommended are apparently for the entire PC not for only the graphics card.

and you never sent me an official link where it says that the GTX 550 Ti only uses 300-400 watt.

it is uttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bullshit

Actually i did, the Nvidia link.

And how is Nvidia to know which CPU you are using... One CPU could be 140 Watts other 125 and another could be 180 or even more... They recommend that PSU wattage for theat card alone.

Also comming back on that +12volt and 24Amps thing. Doing +12Volt x 24Amps = 288Watts, now this link says that the Nvidia GTX550 used 287Watts on load.
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_550_ti,8.html
Coincidence ? No.

It will always use a constant of 24Amps, When a Graphics card is not being used it will drop back to about 5volts making it run at about 120Watts (Thats what they list, the idle power consumption) Its up to the customer usually to do the math on how much your Powersupply needs to be or have to run properly.

Heres my system:
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black edition Requirement is 125Watts        At +3,1/3,5volt x 35/40Amps
GPU: Powercolor HD5870 PCS+ Minimum System requirement 500Watt         At +12volt x 40Amps

This together already makes up for 625Watts of my 650 Watts Powersupply.
The Graphics card will probably never use all of it i know that. But when it comes down to highend PC's You do really need a powerfull Powersupply.

If your smart you take my word for it. Because not only are these the cold hard facts, the proof is even there.

And Faraday said he did want to have a performance PC. So i dont know why you would pick out such low end stuff. Apart from the SSD.

I don't know if you have had tech class where you live, but here we do get it.

Heres something you have to learn when it comes to power consumption of anything:
http://www.ebtx.com/mech/ampvolt.htm

Most important one is Watts = Amps x Volt (Amps being the constant)

[BikeDriver]

so a GTX 550 is using like 400 watts.

a GTX 595 probably about 100000 watts.

8 of them in a octa sli or whatever it is called will then use around 80000000000 watts, then you will need a gigiantic round solar reactor around the sun to produce that power only to power your 8 graphics cards.


i definitely didnt miscalculate and now SHUT THE FUCK UP.

530 watts will be enough period.

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

so a GTX 550 is using like 400 watts.

a GTX 595 probably about 100000 watts.

8 of them in a octa sli or whatever it is called will then use around 80000000000 watts, then you will need a gigiantic round solar reactor around the sun to produce that power only to power your 8 graphics cards.


i definitely didnt miscalculate and now SHUT THE FUCK UP.

530 watts will be enough period.

Only problem is the GTX550 requires a minimum of 24 Amps on the 12 volt rail and the Be quiet 530 only has 22Amps on that 12volt rail. Which means he needs to get a different PSU anyway.

GTX590 runs at about 500Watts on load. Thats Without CPU and the rest.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/03/24/nvidia-geforce-gtx-590-3gb-review/8

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-590/specifications

Recommended is 700Watt powersupply.
1200Watt for Sli.

[EnzoMortelli]

1200 Watt oO
Who's gonna pay that bill, seriously.

[BikeDriver]

ok but who cares about this GTX 590 trash?

read this:

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-550ti/specifications

Thermal and Power Specs:
116 W Maximum Graphics Card Power (W)
400 W Minimum System Power Requirement (W)4

116 Watt. 400 Watt minimum PSU. 530 still not good enough?

i win and btw: FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

*Sigh*

Thats the minimum power requirement for the Video card alone.

CPU, HDD's, Fans, Ram, DVD/Blu-ray Drives and everything else Excluded

Nvidia does not know what system you put the video card in so they can not give a recommended power of 400Watts for the entire system.

They can only give a recommendation for their product which is the GTX550 in this case and they gave their product a recommendation of 400Watts minimum. Thats without CPU fans etc etc as i mentioned before.


You keep forgetting that the minimum 400Watt PSU is only for the graphics card NOT the entire system. The entire system (including CPU, fans, HDDs etc etc) would most likely end up at 600 or 650 Watts recommended for a PSU.

Eitherway i know you will keep being stubborn and you know nothing about PSU's and you wont believe it even when proof is handed to you. Im done argueing about this i know im right and you clearly are not.

[BikeDriver]

then what are the

116 W Maximum Graphics Card Power (W)

seriously dude: are you mentally retarded?

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

then what are the

116 W Maximum Graphics Card Power (W)

seriously dude: are you mentally retarded?

So explain to me, Why in fucks name would they fabricate a 1200W powersupply if only the cardsuse 116 Watts. By what your saying a 800Watt powersupply should be more than capable of running 4 videocards and a CPU and the rest thats

GFX  4 x 116 = 464
CPU  1 x 125 = 125
Rest 1 x 100 = 100

Total:             689 Watts.

Yea get real dude...

The only mentally retarded with idiotic incapabilities here is you.

I suggest you read up on it. Because you obviously are not well informed (or not at all) as to how Powersupplies work....

[BikeDriver]

1200 watt powersupplys are for:
a) dumb retards who think that a single GTX 550 will use about 400 watt.
b) rich retards who want to use two high end dual GPU graphics cards.

nobody in the world with a 1200 watt PSU will use GTX 550. i do know that a GTX 590 will use like 300 watt if on 100%. unlike mid-end graphics cards those mosters are only designed for performance, not for effectiveness.

4 GTX 550 with 800 watt? seems pretty legit to me.

as i said i did 2 Radeon 5770 with 530 watt. worked well. oh btw i had 5 HDDs, DVD and a sound card running too.

[[eVo]PvtBenny]

1200 watt powersupplys are for:
a) dumb retards who think that a single GTX 550 will use about 400 watt.
b) rich retards who want to use two high end dual GPU graphics cards.

nobody in the world with a 1200 watt PSU will use GTX 550. i do know that a GTX 590 will use like 300-400 watt if on 100%. unlike mid-end graphics cards those mosters are only designed for performance, not for effectiveness.

4 GTX 550 with 800 watt? seems pretty legit to me.

as i said i did 2 Radeon 5770 with 530 watt. worked well. oh btw i had 5 HDDs, DVD and a sound card running too.

Then your PC obviously capped itself. And you where never running it at a full 100% potential....

[BikeDriver]

i played GTA IV with full details in FULL HD with 40 fps. that means it didnt reach the fps limitation of 55 so it probably was near 100%.

[Faraday]

Okay, I'm gonna let you guys cool off. Due to unforseen circumstances, I'm going to have to postpone the purchase of my new pc. My car had to go into repair and it cost me a bunch of moneyz.. So the pc is being put off for a few weeks/months untill I can scramble some money again.

Closing this topic for now. Will reopen when ready.

@/Nos:

'Follow the price/performance range'. That's really good advice, but if I knew what products have a good price/performance ratio I wouldn't have to create this topic. I'm asking LW's community for help in building a first class gaming pc which can last a couple of years without having to update any time soon. I want to get rid of my loud mid-end beast who's gone a tad out of fashion. Also looking forward to playing newly bought games at freakishly ultra high settings (I wanna use the blur stuff in BF3, and want to play LA Noire at highest, and the same goes for GTA IV & V)